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How Do They Do That? [vocal tips]

If you can help shed some light on ANY or all of these FX, I'd be grateful!
SO I've always wondered about how the following techniques are done:

1/ Vocals sound back-masked, but words are identifiable and are in time with the vocals being sung...

2/ Vocals have a "gargle" effect but are synced to a controllable tempo?

3/ Crazy mad robotic vocoder type singing ... FX? VST? possible without $2000 software/hardware?
OR
This one's another good example! (Sounds especially good on male vocals)

edit: I think Dez mentioned the Elizabeth Fields one, but I couldn't dig it up. Anyone got any answers?

1. Reverse your vocals and put a reverb on it. Reverse it again when you're done.

2. There is a little plugin for this. It's called Supatrigga.

3. That has been done with a vocoder. Use a detuned saw as a modulator to achieve the sound.

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Originally posted by Passiva 1. Reverse your vocals and put a reverb on it. Reverse it again when you're done.

Can u explain it more easily?

Thanx Passiva!

I'll get right to work!

2. Is easily achieved with a noise gate side-chained to a rhythmic pattern. I think that's the most widespread way of getting this effect.

-REMIDI

P.S. BTW, the effect is poorly done in that sample you posted - you can hear the gate switching ON and OFF, hence the "clicking" artifacts. The release and attack times were set too fast in my opinion.

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Originally posted by Shahar Can u explain it more easily?

1. take sampler
2. load sample vokal*.wav
3. push reverse button from your sampler OR swich forward/reverse knob form n-** if you are using reason

now you have reversed vokal (it means that vokals are palyed backwards)

4. add reverb effect
5. export to vokal*reverse*.wav
6. take sampler.
7. load vokal*reversed*.wav
8. enjoy

I think the effect on the sample 1 is something else. When you do it as how you it explain it's a pre-reverb. So you will hear her singing upcoming before she exactly starts to sing.

i couldnt listen the sample but my tutorial is based on passivas ansver....

Sample 1 is definitly not acheived with reverse reverb. The only effects on the vocals are delay(lots in certain places none in others) and standard reverb.

"Vocals sound back-masked, but words are identifiable and are in time with the vocals being sung"

An example of the back-masked sound I think you're reffering is most evident before the first word is sung. The incomming

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

effect right? That is a simple vocal synth(think your standard choir synth preset tailored for standard vocals). One synth has a medium attack time with no realease whatsover on the amp envelope while the other synth has a quick attack time.

Synth 1 gives this effect:
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


Synth 2 this effect:
aaaaa


In that sample the combined synths play a loop three times(at 1, 8 & 14 seconds) which just goes to show it's not reverse reverb on the vocals. Reverse reverb can't give you that super clear long reverse aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa tail alone. To get it that long and clear you would have to apply a slight amount of reverse reverb, time stretch it(to get the tail long), then cut and paste only the incomming aaaa ontop of the standard vocals. You could also put the "aaAA" into a sampler and make different effects with it that way.

run the sample through orange voccodor and izotope trash to achive sound 3 then to do the ahhh hhahahha where its kinda gated run mg-trancegate over the vocal and sequence it to your desire

now i finally listen sample 1..

and it's not only reverse verb..

theres several efects..

some reverse and some delay

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Originally posted by Drazzic I think the effect on the sample 1 is something else. When you do it as how you it explain it's a pre-reverb. So you will hear her singing upcoming before she exactly starts to sing.

Exactly what I thought, but I'm trying to wrap my head around ROB's answer...

And REMEDI, you're exactly right about the sample #2....I only chose it cuz I was looking for a quick clip. The effect was done poorly as you say, so it's nice to know the right way! Thanks!

So Rob, you mean just take two patches of a choir-like bank and change the attacks as you have indicated and then trigger them together?

Don't use a choir bank but a female voice bank(the two are quite distinctive and different). The synths also have a bit of filtered white noise on them.

And when applying delay on vocals, (in this case)they're only applied to certain words.

ie. And I find strength in all are fears "all are...all are...all are". The only section that has delay on it is "all are". The point I'm trying to make is that it's not very apparent, yet people will still think it's as easy as wacking delay onto the ENTIRE vocals.

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