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Posted by Form&Funktion on Jan-26-2005 17:48:

Shame / Disagreement Boys slapped with felony arrests for drawing

Just read this article and found it highly interesting. Let the debate begin on my mark.

and..........................................GO

Children Charged With Felonies Over Violent Drawings

POSTED: 5:00 am MST January 26, 2005

OCALA, Fla. -- Two boys, ages 9 and 10, were charged with felonies and taken away from school in handcuffs, accused of making violent drawings of stick figures.


The boys were arrested Monday on charges of making a written threat to kill or harm another person, a second-degree felony. The special education students used pencil and red crayon to draw primitive stick figure scenes on scrap paper that showed a 10-year-old classmate being stabbed and hung, police said.

"The officer found they were drawing these pictures for the sole purpose of intimidating and scaring the victim," said Ocala Police Sgt. Russ Kern.

The boy depicted in the drawings told his teacher, who took the sketches and contacted the school dean, Marty Clifford. Clifford called police, who arrested the boys after consulting with the State Attorney's Office.

They were also suspended from school.

One drawing showed the two boys standing on either side of the other boy and "holding knives pointed through" his body, according to a police report. The figures were identified by written names or initials.

Another drawing showed a stick figure hanging, tears falling from his eyes, with two other stick figures standing below him. Other pieces of scrap paper listed misspelled profanities and the initials of the boy who was allegedly threatened.

Parents of both of the arrested boys said they thought the boys should be punished by the school and families, not the legal system.


Posted by jdjd on Jan-26-2005 17:59:

Carried out in handcuffs.. they're going to be the coolest kids at school!


Posted by starsearcher on Jan-26-2005 18:02:

They are gonan get laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaid...oh wait...they're 10...hmm...well that sounds messed up...I'm not sure if arresting them is such a good idea


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jan-26-2005 18:07:

Lets get Jayx1 in this thread...


Posted by Form&Funktion on Jan-26-2005 18:09:

quote:
Lets get Jayx1 in this thread...


Give him some time. It takes a while to get the hamster running up to speed.

I jest


Posted by muzzybear on Jan-26-2005 18:14:

Did the school contact the parents first? Did they try some sort of discipline with the parents guidance, rather than calling the police. After all, these kids are probably used to playing violent video games at home and see nothing wrong with what they've done. Then the parents should be arrested and thrown in jail for raising assholes.


Posted by tatgirl on Jan-26-2005 18:21:

Nowadays, 1st instinct is to overreact.

Sensibility is an afterthought.


Posted by avikonen on Jan-26-2005 18:29:

Florida is the dumbest state...

I read this post with disgust and horror. If special education boys aged 9 and 10 are drawing graphically violent drawings, then there is something that is going very wrong. I think disapline is the last thing that should happen. I would call in child services. There is more to this story than its face value.

quote:
Originally posted by Form&Funktion
Just read this article and found it highly interesting. Let the debate begin on my mark.

and..........................................GO

Children Charged With Felonies Over Violent Drawings

POSTED: 5:00 am MST January 26, 2005

OCALA, Fla. -- Two boys, ages 9 and 10, were charged with felonies and taken away from school in handcuffs, accused of making violent drawings of stick figures.


The boys were arrested Monday on charges of making a written threat to kill or harm another person, a second-degree felony. The special education students used pencil and red crayon to draw primitive stick figure scenes on scrap paper that showed a 10-year-old classmate being stabbed and hung, police said.

"The officer found they were drawing these pictures for the sole purpose of intimidating and scaring the victim," said Ocala Police Sgt. Russ Kern.

The boy depicted in the drawings told his teacher, who took the sketches and contacted the school dean, Marty Clifford. Clifford called police, who arrested the boys after consulting with the State Attorney's Office.

They were also suspended from school.

One drawing showed the two boys standing on either side of the other boy and "holding knives pointed through" his body, according to a police report. The figures were identified by written names or initials.

Another drawing showed a stick figure hanging, tears falling from his eyes, with two other stick figures standing below him. Other pieces of scrap paper listed misspelled profanities and the initials of the boy who was allegedly threatened.

Parents of both of the arrested boys said they thought the boys should be punished by the school and families, not the legal system.


Posted by ShadoWolf on Jan-26-2005 18:43:

Infancy and incapacity are defenses to this sort of thing. I doubt they'd even go to Juvi.


Posted by Crazy Serb on Jan-26-2005 19:19:

yep, call the child services first and slap their parents with some time behind bars...


Posted by Orko on Jan-26-2005 19:44:

did anybody here think that these drawings maybe a good thing?

Drawings, and video games let people express urges they shouldnt in real life. They can be an escape. Do kids really use drawings to threaten other kids? I didnt know kids planed murders now...i know some react on instinct or primal urges...but i didnt know they planned them in such detail.

I love playing grand theft auto, purly because it allows me to do things i would never do in real life.

I think drawing maybe a good way for these kids to deal with the 'problem's' they may have.

one more thing, did the boys ever give the drawings to the 'victim'? if not, then its not a threat.
otherwise its just a drawing.


Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-26-2005 20:48:

I really don't think common sense exists anymore.

Since when do we throw KIDS in jail or ANYONE for drawing cartoons? Pathetic is all i can say about this.


Posted by goodnet on Jan-26-2005 20:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
did anybody here think that these drawings maybe a good thing?


Not if these kids were being rediculous and taunting the object of thier distaste (the boy depicted) with it.


Posted by Orko on Jan-26-2005 21:01:

quote:
Originally posted by goodnet
Not if these kids were being rediculous and taunting the object of thier distaste (the boy depicted) with it.


better them taunting him, rather than actually acting on their desires.

and thats what i mean. better they use pictures to express what they feel, than use knives to express how they feel


Posted by Cal on Jan-26-2005 22:24:

Newsflash - Odds are all of the people who posted in this thread used to draw violent things like that when they were kids. It's perfectly normal and doesn't mean they are out to kill someone.

Hell you should see some of the stuff my mom saved from when I was 10.


Posted by Surreal JRS on Jan-26-2005 22:43:

I can't seem to find the article, but this is similar to a case involving a kid pointing a banana at a teacher and saying "pow". The kid got suspended.


Posted by Wurm on Jan-26-2005 22:51:

Worm Popper

Don't mess with the man.


Posted by dallastar on Jan-26-2005 22:59:

Re: Boys slapped with felony arrests for drawing

quote:
Originally posted by Form&Funktion
Just read this article and found it highly interesting. Let the debate begin on my mark.

and..........................................GO

Children Charged With Felonies Over Violent Drawings

POSTED: 5:00 am MST January 26, 2005

OCALA, Fla. -- Two boys, ages 9 and 10, were charged with felonies and taken away from school in handcuffs, accused of making violent drawings of stick figures.


The boys were arrested Monday on charges of making a written threat to kill or harm another person, a second-degree felony. The special education students used pencil and red crayon to draw primitive stick figure scenes on scrap paper that showed a 10-year-old classmate being stabbed and hung, police said.

"The officer found they were drawing these pictures for the sole purpose of intimidating and scaring the victim," said Ocala Police Sgt. Russ Kern.

The boy depicted in the drawings told his teacher, who took the sketches and contacted the school dean, Marty Clifford. Clifford called police, who arrested the boys after consulting with the State Attorney's Office.

They were also suspended from school.

One drawing showed the two boys standing on either side of the other boy and "holding knives pointed through" his body, according to a police report. The figures were identified by written names or initials.

Another drawing showed a stick figure hanging, tears falling from his eyes, with two other stick figures standing below him. Other pieces of scrap paper listed misspelled profanities and the initials of the boy who was allegedly threatened.

Parents of both of the arrested boys said they thought the boys should be punished by the school and families, not the legal system.


well i am happy to here this ASSHOLE got a slap on the wrist with cuffs..

on another note - todfay at my work i had to call the polive on this LOSER/drunk - syupposed newfew of a resident (really he is his dopedealer/boyfriend - double ewwwwww ewwwwwwww) and eayh - he is now not permitted on the property and we called the freakin' police at 3:35pm and now it is 5:53pm and they STILL Haven't COME!@

Fukked up!


Posted by maxlow on Jan-26-2005 23:32:

That is so ridiculous. And I'm really getting pissed about the hysterical, over dramatic, over medicated, self help book, paranoia infested ranks that seem to be assimilating my fellow Americans like in one of those old school sci-fi movies. I swear somewhere in this country (New Jersey, I think) normal, reasonable and generally sane people are being stolen away, and are being systematically replaced by ultra-mega-sissiesare being hatched from space pods and are now taking over the population. There is some contraption spitting out drones like those types who charge 10 year olds with a felony, or sick the lawyers on you if your coffee is too hot... you know the type. I don't know if you have that problem in Canada or not, but it's really starting to bug me.

whew... Pardon my rant...

I had a similar experience in school - though I wasn't cool enough to get any jail time, a rather bizarre drawing got me into much trouble.... and now I make art for a living (insert a middle finger to my art teacher here ). Funny how things work out


Posted by Jayx1 on Jan-26-2005 23:36:

Oh they have the same problem here in Canada.

The problem is that the government here the one actually implementing it.


Posted by DigiNut on Jan-26-2005 23:38:

So much for "tolerance".


Posted by Fir3start3r on Jan-26-2005 23:42:

Re: Boys slapped with felony arrests for drawing

quote:
Originally posted by Form&Funktion
Just read this article and found it highly interesting. Let the debate begin on my mark.

and..........................................GO

Children Charged With Felonies Over Violent Drawings

POSTED: 5:00 am MST January 26, 2005

OCALA, Fla. -- Two boys, ages 9 and 10, were charged with felonies and taken away from school in handcuffs, accused of making violent drawings of stick figures.


The boys were arrested Monday on charges of making a written threat to kill or harm another person, a second-degree felony. The special education students used pencil and red crayon to draw primitive stick figure scenes on scrap paper that showed a 10-year-old classmate being stabbed and hung, police said.

"The officer found they were drawing these pictures for the sole purpose of intimidating and scaring the victim," said Ocala Police Sgt. Russ Kern.

The boy depicted in the drawings told his teacher, who took the sketches and contacted the school dean, Marty Clifford. Clifford called police, who arrested the boys after consulting with the State Attorney's Office.

They were also suspended from school.

One drawing showed the two boys standing on either side of the other boy and "holding knives pointed through" his body, according to a police report. The figures were identified by written names or initials.

Another drawing showed a stick figure hanging, tears falling from his eyes, with two other stick figures standing below him. Other pieces of scrap paper listed misspelled profanities and the initials of the boy who was allegedly threatened.

Parents of both of the arrested boys said they thought the boys should be punished by the school and families, not the legal system.


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