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Posted by JWangSDC on Jan-29-2005 03:12:

Question for Music Majors or those just knowledgable

I'm currently taking Music Humanities and in an attempt to kiss my teachers ass...as well as share my love of trance, I wanted to make him a CD.

Here's my problem. He openly stated that he has no interest in any type of popular music...he feels it's not complex enough as opposed to classical music. Right now we're on the topic of Harmony, Polyphony imitational and non-imitationa polyphony...Anyone have any ideas of songs I could add to his mix? I imagine a set would have the kinda emotion that he's looking for, but I doubt he'll be willing to listen for 74minutes. Can anyone recommend a song or several...preferably one which illustrates each of said 3 principles (harmony and polyphony)? Thanks in advance

Posted by eulerfx on Jan-29-2005 03:31:

Way Out West - Killa
Sphongle stuff
some BT like ESCM album

plenty of imitational and non-imitational polyphony in there

Posted by DJ Joshua H on Jan-29-2005 03:36:

maybe some really progressive, melodic, uplifting trance. stuff thats focused not really on a big bassline but the strings and chords..

Posted by JWangSDC on Jan-29-2005 04:32:

hehe could you list specific songs... Also about Killa which is it? My ear sucks, can't tell if it's imitational or non-imitational

quote:
Originally posted by eulerfx
Way Out West - Killa
Sphongle stuff
some BT like ESCM album

plenty of imitational and non-imitational polyphony in there

Posted by beats and beeps on Jan-29-2005 04:44:

Re: Question for Music Majors or those just knowledgable

quote:
Originally posted by JWangSDC
I'm currently taking Music Humanities and in an attempt to kiss my teachers ass...as well as share my love of trance, I wanted to make him a CD.

Here's my problem. He openly stated that he has no interest in any type of popular music...he feels it's not complex enough as opposed to classical music. Right now we're on the topic of Harmony, Polyphony imitational and non-imitationa polyphony...Anyone have any ideas of songs I could add to his mix? I imagine a set would have the kinda emotion that he's looking for, but I doubt he'll be willing to listen for 74minutes. Can anyone recommend a song or several...preferably one which illustrates each of said 3 principles (harmony and polyphony)? Thanks in advance

Trance isnt going to do it well...

Posted by JWangSDC on Jan-29-2005 05:42:

Re: Re: Question for Music Majors or those just knowledgable

Damn... Well any newer music genre...NOT including scores or shit like yanni. (though I'm a yanni fan myself)

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
Trance isnt going to do it well...

Posted by beats and beeps on Jan-29-2005 06:18:

look into other forms of electronic music.

If you can find some of the more complex works by the following artists they might suit your needs.

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Ryuichi+Sakamoto
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Plaid
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Shulman

Its pretty hit and miss though...alot of this stuff is quite simplistic, or fragmented at best.

If you were into lounge music, you could really find what you're looking for, although a large amount of it is quite distant from electronic music, so you might not really be proving the point you're trying to get across. It is mixed by djs though...

Posted by Zombie0729 on Jan-29-2005 09:03:

you'd be surprised. my latest professor LOVED dance music. she really enjoyed chicane and earlier BT works. it was weird, one day in class we were talking about what makes a song memorable. someone brought up melodies and she played BT - Embracing the Sun ... i was like wow! i didn't know what to do in my seat.

but i mean, a big majority of trance music is polyphonic.

i know this might not please a lot of people but a good, simple track to show ur professor is Probspot - Foreplay. 2 melodies + atlesat 3 FX melodies. The harmony is going to be obvious, but i think he would enjoy it.

edit:
also from earlier last year, Recluse - Yellow Moon (Octagen Remix) Guitar + Piano + FX melody gorgeous btw

Posted by JWangSDC on Jan-29-2005 09:15:

Those two songs are two of my FAVORITES. hehe Foreplay...listen to it high while having said action...AMAZING

BTW, if it's two melodies, isn't it polyphony?

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
you'd be surprised. my latest professor LOVED dance music. she really enjoyed chicane and earlier BT works. it was weird, one day in class we were talking about what makes a song memorable. someone brought up melodies and she played BT - Embracing the Sun ... i was like wow! i didn't know what to do in my seat.

but i mean, a big majority of trance music is polyphonic.

i know this might not please a lot of people but a good, simple track to show ur professor is Probspot - Foreplay. 2 melodies + atlesat 3 FX melodies. The harmony is going to be obvious, but i think he would enjoy it.

edit:
also from earlier last year, Recluse - Yellow Moon (Octagen Remix) Guitar + Piano + FX melody gorgeous btw

Posted by Alexan on Jan-29-2005 09:23:

Hybrid - Finished Symphony
Aphex Twin - Outside

Posted by eRRaTiK on Jan-29-2005 10:11:

Re: Question for Music Majors or those just knowledgable

quote:
Originally posted by JWangSDC
he feels it's not complex enough as opposed to classical music.

if the dude wants classical, throw him some trance with classical samples. here's a list

Posted by esKEBAB on Jan-29-2005 11:32:

dude.. BT - Divinity - from IMA. THAT has got to have a bit of everything to it. Good luck, I've made similar attempts

Posted by Alexan on Jan-29-2005 11:55:

BT - Content, some of the most beautiful piano I've ever heard

Posted by DRM on Jan-29-2005 12:34:

Just give him Hybrid - Wide Angle, u cant go wrong. ive never once heard some1 say that album is poor, no matter wot music they listen to or how old they are everyone always appriciates it to atleast some extent.

Posted by DJ Joshua H on Jan-29-2005 15:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Alexan
BT - Content, some of the most beautiful piano I've ever heard

robert miles - children huge piano track

also, for those who may not know:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=harmony

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=polyphony

Posted by biznology on Jan-29-2005 16:29:

Do Androids Dream of Electronic Beats...by UNKLE.

one of the most challenging and yet enjoyable cd sets recently. everytime you listen it gets better...good luck getting your hands on a hard copy. everything you could ask for in quality music across the board|

Posted by trance85 on Jan-29-2005 23:42:

I think Probspot - Foreplay is a really good track, someone already mentioned it.

Anyone know of any other songs like it?

Posted by mety333 on Jan-30-2005 00:05:

Rio Addicts - Crossroads
William Orbit - Adagio for Strings (Ferry Corsten Remix)
ATB - Sunset Girl (Limited Club Mix 2.3)
Unknown Source - Cruentus (Exertion Remix)
Shane 54 vs Abel Ramos - Kippenvelmeter (Mat Silver vs Tony Burt Remix)

Posted by Bernd_Gradish on Jan-30-2005 00:21:

I'd go with some Ulrich Schnauss stuff

Posted by Ory on Jan-30-2005 00:51:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Joshua H
robert miles - children huge piano track

Also one of the simplest fucking songs I've ever heard.

Posted by starglider on Jan-30-2005 05:28:

Interestingly, the best example of polyphony in trance I can think of is PPK - ResuRection. That song gets a lot of flak, but it is remarkably complex for a trance song. Tastexperience - Highlander is another prime example.

Posted by Sykonee on Jan-30-2005 05:40:

Once again, Oliver Lieb to the rescue!

L.S.G. - Sweet Gravity
Spicelab - Planet Spice
L.S.G. - Lonley Casseopaya
L.S.G. - the Into Deep album
L.S.G. - Hearts
The Ambush - Casablanca

And a couple others:
Metal Master - Spectrum (Double J Mix)
Sasha - Baja

Posted by Alexan on Jan-30-2005 06:11:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Joshua H
robert miles - children huge piano track

also, for those who may not know:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=harmony

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=polyphony

Yeah but in 'Content' Brian actually tried. He throws some complexity and improv. in there.