What separates a GOOD liveset from a BAD liveset?

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Posted by Spacey Orange on Jan-30-2005 23:29:

What separates a GOOD liveset from a BAD liveset?

When I listen to a live set, this is what i take into account.

1. Beatmatching
2. Melody/Harmony matching (or no obvious clashes)
3. Progression of the BPMs in tracks (no dramatic rises or falls in bpms).
4. Track choice (whether they seem to fit with the other tracks' genre)

Am I missing anything?

I'm guessing the same principles apply in any genre of edm. I know that this is basic, but often i witness bitter disagreements over DJ [insert any name] and I'm not sure if the disagreement is over the edm genre or the DJ's skills.

Posted by Philby on Jan-31-2005 00:23:

yes you are missing:
voiceover by pete tong saying 'paul oakenfold liiive from gatecrasher, at lotharton hall' and subsequent roar of crowd.

Posted by AlphaStarred on Jan-31-2005 00:28:

some live sets contain those roaring crowds throughout the entire set..that exasperates me

Posted by Ory on Jan-31-2005 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Philby
yes you are missing:
voiceover by pete tong saying 'paul oakenfold liiive from gatecrasher, at lotharton hall' and subsequent roar of crowd.

Yes, please.

Posted by Spacey Orange on Jan-31-2005 00:36:

i actually wasn't referring tot the actuial recording of the liveset (whether its clean or there are crowds), but the the liveset itself (as in the dj's skills by mixing live - you know like at an event or a radio or whatever).

for instance i've seen TA bash tiesto because of his 'trainwecks'. is it because he f'ed up a beatmatch or what?

another example. right now i'm listening to AVB sensation white 2003 and at about 30 he transitions but it doesn't sound right because the melodies are off.

Posted by Philby on Jan-31-2005 00:37:

quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
some live sets contain those roaring crowds throughout the entire set..that exasperates me

roaring crowd = teh winnar!!!

Posted by AlphaStarred on Jan-31-2005 00:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Philby

roaring crowd = teh winnar!!!

not when the music gets muffled and overshadowed by their shouts and whistles!

Posted by Philby on Jan-31-2005 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
not when the music gets muffled and overshadowed by their shouts and whistles!

bah it all adds atmosphere!

well in reference to the original questions, obviously if a set isnt beatmatched and stuff then its not going to be as good but if its only one or two and the rest of it sounds great then you should be able to let it slide

Posted by Lira on Jan-31-2005 00:58:

Re: What separates a GOOD liveset from a BAD liveset?

quote:
Originally posted by Spacey Orange
1. Beatmatching (if see Fatboy slim live, you won't think beatmatching is necessary for a good set )
2. Melody/Harmony matching (or no obvious clashes)
3. Progression of the BPMs in tracks (no dramatic rises or falls in bpms) (once again, if you see Fatboy slim live, you won't think this is necessary for a good set either )
4. Track choice (whether they seem to fit with the other tracks' genre)
5. No whistles