TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Music Discussion
-- Will 'technical skill' be an obsolete term in 5 - 10 years?
Pages (2): [1] 2 »

Will 'technical skill' be an obsolete term in 5 - 10 years?

For many years being a quality Dj involved an element of difficulty because although you got primarily judged on your music selection it was assumed that you could beat match and makes mixes sublime.

In fact there aren't many Djs out there that have not sacrificed a great amount of living to master the art of spinning records.

But with the transformation of technology will anybody be able to Dj in future years?

beatmatching isn't going away THAT soon...

However, it may come down to doing things live...completely reworking songs so that every set is fresh.

WHich can be good, since so many djs out there do the same thing...it'll come down to who's the better performer on the spot

but thats down the raod a bit

Re: Will 'technical skill' be an obsolete term in 5 - 10 years?

quote:

Originally posted by t�bias Will 'technical skill' be an obsolete term in 5 - 10 years?

No.

Idiot.

Assuming you're referring to djing, I'll say the meaning will change, of course it wont go away. No matter how fool proof the technology is, theres always people who are better at using it than others.

Besides a better question would be if electronic dance music will still be a profitable genre in 5-10 years. Everything takes its turns, I wouldnt be surprised if EDM had become low profile by that time.

...And EDM isn't low profile now?

quote:

Originally posted by ZendoBro I believe EDM is at the bottom of the barrel for the most profitable genre of defined music.

Well then I'm not even going to bother arguing you...

But you're wrong.

EDIT: Ok, you edited your post, now I have to edit mine. My idea of low profile isnt an industry that is spread throughout the world, and contantly has a steady flow of new material, and new interest. Despite what you think there are alot of people involved in this music.

Low profile is when it stops being popular, yes thats right, I called EDM popular. And it starts getting to the point where its mainly old artists releasing new material, and its mainly old buyers buying that material.

quote:

Originally posted by trance-ecj beatmatching isn't going away THAT soon...

And that's quite a shame

EDM isnt low profile in Europe, 50,000 people at parties and stuff.

Re: Will 'technical skill' be an obsolete term in 5 - 10 years?

quote:

Originally posted by t�bias For many years being a quality Dj involved an element of difficulty because although you got primarily judged on your music selection it was assumed that you could beat match and makes mixes sublime. In fact there aren't many Djs out there that have not sacrificed a great amount of living to master the art of spinning records. But with the transformation of technology will anybody be able to Dj in future years?

Interesting question. I really don't know what to tell you. More and more producers are just that.. producers. You have people releasing excellent tracks that they tweak in the studio, but they really don't like to spin or to play to the crowds. This is all swell in my opinion, if you are a good producer and if you can produce.. do what you do. However, this makes the number of DJs decline. New guys start to look around and say, "Hell, I don't have to be a DJ to have a sick track out", and for the most part they are true. Back in the days most successful DJs were not into production, but almost every DJ now days is also a producer. So simply put, DJs are on decline while producers are on the rise. You got guys like BT, who I respect in every possible way, producing quality throughout the years.. but he refuses to spin. Well, he did spin for a period of time, but it was mediocre due to the fact that he was a producer first and DJ second.

I'm not a DJ so i can't tell you that i care much if this happens. Its true that its nice to go to a club and see your favorite DJ spin the records you like. However, as long as good tracks are produced and as long as there is a way of playing them and hearing them.. i really don't care much.

I do agree that DJs are essential for EDM, but EDM can do without DJs with extrordinary skills as long as we have good producers making beautiful tracks.

I'm very into hip-hop and people used to say that if DJs die, hip-hop dies due to the fact that early hip-hop was about the DJ first and em cee second. Well look how the time has changed. You got former DJs, Dr.Dre for example, stepping out of the spot light as a DJ and becoming dedicated to the production aspect of the genre. With this example the genre changed and its more em cee oriented and production oriented. Sure you have to have DJs in the club, but most of these DJs are nothing special and are there just to play the new jams. Basically this is the same thing that is happening to EDM imo.

Re: Will 'technical skill' be an obsolete term in 5 - 10 years?

quote:

Originally posted by t�bias For many years being a quality Dj involved an element of difficulty because although you got primarily judged on your music selection it was assumed that you could beat match and makes mixes sublime. In fact there aren't many Djs out there that have not sacrificed a great amount of living to master the art of spinning records. But with the transformation of technology will anybody be able to Dj in future years?

Trance is already dead, you won't have to worry about it in 5-10 years

quote:

Originally posted by ZendoBro ...And EDM isn't low profile now?

lol no
edm is very commercial especially trance

Re: Re: Will 'technical skill' be an obsolete term in 5 - 10 years?

quote:

Originally posted by mto Interesting question. I really don't know what to tell you. More and more producers are just that.. producers. You have people releasing excellent tracks that they tweak in the studio, but they really don't like to spin or to play to the crowds. This is all swell in my opinion, if you are a good producer and if you can produce.. do what you do. However, this makes the number of DJs decline. New guys start to look around and say, "Hell, I don't have to be a DJ to have a sick track out", and for the most part they are true. Back in the days most successful DJs were not into production, but almost every DJ now days is also a producer. So simply put, DJs are on decline while producers are on the rise. You got guys like BT, who I respect in every possible way, producing quality throughout the years.. but he refuses to spin. Well, he did spin for a period of time, but it was mediocre due to the fact that he was a producer first and DJ second. I'm not a DJ so i can't tell you that i care much if this happens. Its true that its nice to go to a club and see your favorite DJ spin the records you like. However, as long as good tracks are produced and as long as there is a way of playing them and hearing them.. i really don't care much. I do agree that DJs are essential for EDM, but EDM can do without DJs with extrordinary skills as long as we have good producers making beautiful tracks. I'm very into hip-hop and people used to say that if DJs die, hip-hop dies due to the fact that early hip-hop was about the DJ first and em cee second. Well look how the time has changed. You got former DJs, Dr.Dre for example, stepping out of the spot light as a DJ and becoming dedicated to the production aspect of the genre. With this example the genre changed and its more em cee oriented and production oriented. Sure you have to have DJs in the club, but most of these DJs are nothing special and are there just to play the new jams. Basically this is the same thing that is happening to EDM imo.

Very true, these days its rare to meet a Dj that spends heaps of time spinning that doesn't dip his or her finger into producing or at least whipping some re-mixes together.

Are you predicting an evolution where the top line edm artists will soley create music, and the playing of the music will be left to others?

quote:

Originally posted by ZendoBro ...And EDM isn't low profile now?

+1

Re: Re: Re: Will 'technical skill' be an obsolete term in 5 - 10 years?

quote:

Originally posted by t�bias Are you predicting an evolution where the top line edm artists will soley create music, and the playing of the music will be left to others?

You can think that. It might happen, but it might not. It all depends how much more commerical this whole thing becomes. Only way to see is to wait.

I think `comercial trance` hasn't hit it's peak of popularity yet. There is still a lot of audience yet to reach if you ask me, especially over here in the states... As for DJing, it'll be around forever. Computers will NEVER be able to deteremine what track is going to keep the energy of the crowd high....

Commercial trance is fucking tripe and I hope it never has a high popularity in the United States.

I hope computer geeks take it all over


but that is only because I am a computer geek.


The next 10 years or so are going to be very interesting, supposedly analog computers are just over the horizon, i bet that will shake things up even more.

I dont think music performances will ever really get to the point where anybody can just fire up a computer and sound good. Sure you might think that the computer is "doing everything for you" but in order to create any sort of impressive display with one alot of work and caffiene is needed.

People tend to appreciate things that are generated by a computer less because they seem less real somehow, I don't really understand why, I guess since ive sepnt a few years learning about all the work people put into the stuff I have a weird perspective.

In the end I dont really think it matters what happens, as long as their is a good sound playing. I for one would enjoy an EDM scene with less emphasis on DJ's and more on crowds getting together and having fun.


Commercial trance already had high popularity in my section of teh USA. I went to a mexican food place with kareoki and pople were singing DJ sammy. Even in the little hick town I grew up in, where the only thing to do at night is midnight bowling, they play stuff like castles in the sky and whatnot.

I think the stuff has gotten very popular in the states, i mean, it must have if it reached my little redneck corner of them.

Re: Re: Will 'technical skill' be an obsolete term in 5 - 10 years?

quote:

Originally posted by sandstorm03 Trance is already dead, you won't have to worry about it in 5-10 years

god not another person claiming that trance is dead :/

Re: Re: Re: Will 'technical skill' be an obsolete term in 5 - 10 years?

quote:

Originally posted by Mike_Foyle god not another person claiming that trance is dead :/

it is, and you killed it

Dang, was talking to my friend today about mixing technique with bars. I told him that if he gave me a vinyl, I probably couldn't cue more than a few seconds on it, as opposed to FinalScratch I could cue a minute+ (because of the timing/cue display)! And I think these new waves of mixing techonology are going to invade, and will stand contemporary with the TT's ("Tech Twelves") in a club, whether people think digital is heresy or not.

I think that since these aids will be here, standards probably will rise. And about dj's producing, I was actually so happy Niklas Harding didn't produce, and now that he does it shattered my only example of someone getting far without producing ;/

I think the future will stress more performance, kind of what Rank 1, Infected Mushroom, and Nu-NRG are doing... but again, what about the dj (one man crew)?

We'll have to wait and see, there's always that risky innovative step taker!

Actually, I just came across this pic, trying to find how to spell Micro de Govia's name, since everyone ignores grammer in names (e.g. Paul Van Dyk), but besides that... check this pic of de Govia:



One man

FYI his name is Mirco de Govia.

Yea, I know.. I hate renaming names like Armin Van Buuren sine it's so common that people typo it.

quote:

Originally posted by ZendoBro ...And EDM isn't low profile now?

Stupid Americans... Who's album is at the top of the chart this week? Why, it's the Chemical Brothers, following on from their top 5 single last week!

quote:

Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Stupid Americans... Who's album is at the top of the chart this week? Why, it's the Chemical Brothers, following on from their top 5 single last week!

Yes, but you have to keep in mind there are only a few acts that actually do anything on the charts. Chemical Brothers, and Crystal Method are two of those, along with Fatboy Slim, but most progressive, trance, and even house (to some extent) don't do too well on the charts. I wouldn't say that EDM is low-profile, but it's not exactly high-profile like say hip-hop or rock.

quote:

Originally posted by UWM FYI his name is Mirco de Govia.

LMFAO, I seriously hope that spelling mistake was intentional or your search solved nothing.

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.