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Posted by Nikolas Vaughn on Jan-31-2005 10:01:

Club Sound Systems!!!!

Hey guys hows it going???

In a few weeks i got my first gig in a club... an underage dance party with about 1500-1800ppl... my rave room will hopefully have around 250 ppl, some of which will know what there on about...

My question is, is it harder to mix on a club sound system comapred to the ones at home..???

Im not asking bout the way i will mix...eg through monitors with one ear cupped... just will the increase level in sound make it harder/easier to mix on... and will you be able to hear just say a beat is out by a tiny bit more on one larger set-up....

Im trying to get as much exposure to new equipment as i can as alot of the ppl there be my age or older than me... n im hoping if i put on a good first set i will b a regular for this...

cheers, Nick

Posted by dj chex on Jan-31-2005 10:25:

well the answer is yes and no. No, it will be harder to clearly hear what's playing through the system b/c of delay from the bass, and distortion. And yes, it will be harder for people to hear screwups b/c of the loudness, delayed bass, and distortion.

I know you don't want us to tell you how to mix, but get used to mixing in your phones for this one...

Posted by Freak on Jan-31-2005 10:34:

takes a bit of adjusting to

the sheer volume, amount of bass, ambient delays and probably your nerves will all combine

Club systsms however are very good at masking minor mistakes.

As for how well you can hear them yourself, it all depends on the monitors to be honest

Posted by sleepydragon on Jan-31-2005 11:22:

ive noticed that it seems to be that the louder u play the music the more it seems to hide mistakes when mixing.

Posted by razzi on Jan-31-2005 15:35:

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Originally posted by Freak
As for how well you can hear them yourself, it all depends on the monitors to be honest

this is one thing about some venues that irritates me.. i used to play at a place with a pretty nice system, but quite shoddy monitors. well, the monitors were actually nice speakers, but there was a ridiculous delay on them. i didnt notice the first time i stepped up to the decks, but as soon as i put my phones on, i immidiately turned off the monitor. had to mix solely in the phones in that booth. also, mixing in the phones almost guarantees you that your mixing will be accurate (based on equip) because the audio sources are taking the same path.

razzi.

Posted by Zild on Jan-31-2005 15:47:

It depends. If you like mixing with monitors then I hope they have a nice monitor setup for you. If you like mixing in the headphones then I hope the monitor isn't so loud it forces you to use the one ear method.

Posted by Zack Roth on Feb-01-2005 02:19:

from my experience it is very difficult to mix soley in your headphones in a club. the syetm is way too loud, you'd have your headphone volume cranked well the hell up. I beat match using one ear and take my headphones off when I bring the track in and mix off the monitors. Then again, I've never been faced with having to deal with shitty monitors.

Posted by Zild on Feb-01-2005 02:30:

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Originally posted by Nou
hopefully you have easy access to the monitor volume control... thats what I like about the DJM series, they have the monitor out volume adjust right on the face of the mixer.

A lot of times its not only the monitor but also the huge ass sound system thats scattered thoughout the club that throws you off. I've also had to spin in venues where I could hear the sound from the next room and that kept throwing me off. Its best to know how to beatmatch every in every possible way so Murphy won't get the best of you.

Posted by Boomer187 on Feb-01-2005 02:41:

i always think its easier. I can feel the bass from teh system and it gets me pumped up.

Posted by bass.exe on Feb-01-2005 11:17:

If you are DJing at an underage rave party, it is very doubteful that the sound system will be decent. I recommend getting the sound technician to turn the monitor speaker off and mix in your headphones. I DJed this weekend at a venue where the monitor was so damn loud that I had to turn the headphone volume all the way up..tho even the sound in the headphones was getting distorted

Posted by Derivative on Feb-02-2005 01:13:

surely you can adjust the output level of the monitors via your mixer? also have you considered headphones with better sound isolation? those two combined and the only problem you have to worry about is whether they even bother to give you monitors in the first place (as they so often dont in the boiler house )