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Thinking of bying JP-8080

hi every1..i just wanted to know your opinion on JP-8080.Does it really worth bying.is it good?is it only based on the superwave or it has many instruments?For those who use it what do you think of it? and most important...how expensive is it?

You can get it rather cheap on ebay - and yes, it's worth the money, if you'd like hands-on action with a real synth, and there's no REAL cometition to the sounds it makes still with all the great virtual instruments around. PM alanzo, or google for some samples/info, and you'll get sorted I'd guess.

what would you pay if you lived in the netherlands (not planning to buy one btw, software is powerfull enough)??

cant go wrong with the Roland JP.. i say def. get the 8080 over the 8000 the small changes/upgrades are worthwhile if you dont need a keyboard.

i have a bank i sell you can get a good example of the sounds off it.

www.rb2k1.com

~Ross B

NICE SAMPLE rb2k1!!!Awsome recreations i can now see that jp really worths bying

IF you don't already own a keyboard controller, get a JP8000. Sounds exactly the same and has a keyboard attached.

Most of the sounds in the track in my sig where done with a JP8000.

Only sounds that weren't are the percs and piano.

yea but you dont get the vocoder on the jp8000! i just realised how fricking awesome the vocoder is on my virus b. i use my guitar through it and i can make it sound loopy. wooooooooh!

Vocoders are a bitch to hookup unless you have an outside source feeding into it (a guitar for example).

Either that or your sound card has to have two stereo outputs.

what are the main differences between the jp8080 and the virus b?

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Originally posted by djAlexg what are the main differences between the jp8080 and the virus b?

You can't ask that kind of question. They are both unique synths. You should search for features and sound clips, and do a comparison of your own.

i was talking to a friend and he told me to try and pick up some old synths..n omatter what they are... its good to have some hardware and knobs to turn

Seems like trance producers can only choose between a jp 8000 and a 8080 I had to choose some years ago between waldorf micro q and jp and glad I chose waldorf. Except the supersaw it's capable of a far wider range of sounds than the jp. Jp has more dedicated knobs tho. Glad I can sound other than the rest.

the only thing people are ever interested in here are VA synths. specifically, virus or jp8080. maybe nord lead. its getting a bit silly because VAs have weaknesses. stuff they arent really good at doing. they make rubbish natural acoustic sounds. yamaha motif is better for that. alesis fusion is better for that. analogue mono synths for BASS like you wouldnt believe - roland SH-101, tb-303, korg mono-poly, sequential pro-1. big problem with is they are difficult and expensive to aquire. difficult and expensive to maintain. is it the waldorf microwavext thats digital? one of them is and its cold, hard and brutally good. but if you arent into that sort of thing it wouldnt make sense to buy one, even if loads of people do like it.

then there are weird ones like dave smith's evolver which i swear is the funkiest peice of kit of seen in ages. if you like real analogue warped with crazy digital filters and stuff, you'd probably like it too. if you are looking for a house piano, stay away!

where can i get small sample files of the jp8000? (no not the rb2k1 samples)... I want those because i want to know what the jp8000 is capable of besides creating supersaws, because if i buy a jp8000 it has to do more than just supersaws, much more...

definitely worths the money mate i have it and its a must have for any trance producer...

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Originally posted by COSMIC CITIZEN definitely worths the money mate i have it and its a must have for any trance producer...

for me it was a must leave, for anybody who wants a little bit of originality it is. Don't get me wrong I still like the supersaw, but other instruments are capable of doing one too.

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for me it was a must leave, for anybody who wants a little bit of originality it is. Don't get me wrong I still like the supersaw, but other instruments are capable of doing one too.

yep. i think these things sell nowadays on the strength of the supersaw oscillators. they still fetch on average, higher prices than virus b desktops on ebay. crikey. as for how it sounds. without the supersaw oscillator its your typical VA type sound. sort of good for everything if you like artificial warm kind of sounds. like any 2 or 3 osc softie with a filter and an envelope and a few FX, you can make whole dance songs on a jp. its just a question of how good you are with your tools. dont go thinking you can synthesize gorgeous realistic pianos on it though. aint gonna happen. making pads on the jp8000 i imagine wouldnt be cool banannas. 8 poly? i already eat most of my virus b 24 poly limit on most of my pads alone.

its definitely showing its age too what with it being only 4 parts multi timbral (but with 10 poly its not like you are gonna use em all. heh. similarly virus b. 24 poly. 16 parts? yea right.)

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where can i get small sample files of the jp8000? (no not the rb2k1 samples)... I want those because i want to know what the jp8000 is capable of besides creating supersaws, because if i buy a jp8000 it has to do more than just supersaws, much more...

if you want an entire dance music ensemble with house pianos (ala alesis fusion), fuzzy VA leads (ala nord lead), thick fat analogue basslines (sequential pro one), realistic string pads (ala emu virtuoso. good luck programming it. ha!) and (surprise surprise) a 303 (you guessed it, roland tb-303) then you aint gonna find all that on one instrument to the accuracy attainable without buying all this shit. a JP will do basses and pads and 303 leads and supersaws. basses probably wont be quite as fat as your average analogue monosynth. but thats to be expected. string ensembles wont sound quite as dynamic as those on a virtuoso. but what you do you expect? theres an extra 118 simultanoues voices on the virtuoso and its sample playback (the jp was doomed to lose this battle forever). it does however do some wicked supersaws (!!). thats why people buy JPs. if you dont have anything else it can do a whole bunch of other stuff for the �500 you shell out for it. not bad really. my virus b does some cool 303 leads. does some nice fat and warm basses. not up the fatness of a real sh-101. but hey. it screams like few VA synths can. thats why i bought it.

the JP-8080 is great for all sorts of leads. In the trance world, it's known more for it's overused (for a good reason)detuned super saw.
The JP-8080 is great for strings, pads and sweep fx. It's saw wave form, both super and regular have a good set of teeth (when comparing to other synths)... thats the main reason people tend to use this synth for saw leads. This synth can do basses, but it really shines more on leads.
One thing that I believe is overlooked is that it you can get good patches when using just one oscillator. It's not always necessary to layer using other oscillators, taking up additional voices. For the most part, for the amount of parts that it offers(only 2), in comparison to the 10 voices, thats 5 voices per part, it's more than enough if you are using this as a specialty synth (like for your main lead in a track).
I wouldn't consider this synth an all arounder to rely on for fills, basses, etc. A Nord Lead, Virus, Supernova fits better in that category. And as mentioned by someone else before, if you want real acoustic type sounds, then find a Triton, Motif or JV/XV series type module, as they specialize and run off sample based patches/ waveforms. One advantage that the JP-8080 has is its simplicity and usability. Very easy, simple to program, with all the knobs laid out... it has a knob or slider for most parameters, which is a relief if you're used to programming a virus or waldorf.

THNX for the info man u r great

if you don't really know what you are doing and are determined to spend the money... get the jp8000. it's about as easy a synth programming wise as they come and they keys will help you learn some musical theory, one would hope

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Originally posted by Luke Terry if you don't really know what you are doing and are determined to spend the money... get the jp8000. it's about as easy a synth programming wise as they come and they keys will help you learn some musical theory, one would hope

Or an original Nord Lead Keyboard.. they go for about the same..

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