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More anti-semitism from the most anti-semitic country in the world!!!

Yet more proof that the UK is the most anti-semitic country in the world


If the 96 (ninety-six) attacks against Jewish people were not enough to prove that the UK is the most anti-semitic country in the world (beating even the great United States, where 1,557 anti-semitic attacks occured in 2003 but America doesn't count as far as anti-semitism goes) the Labour Party has launched a scathing anti-semitic attack against two Jewish Conservative MPs, Oliver 'twat' Letwin and Michael 'bigger twat' Howard. In one of the posters, Howard is portrayed as hypnotising the British public saying "we can spend government money twice" and looks like a Jew (well, he would look like one really wouldn't he?) In the other poster that would be more at place in the Durka Durka Times, Howard and Letwin have their heads superimposed onto pigs, and of course, pigs are unclean according to the Jewish people and Sheffield United fans (altho if you ask the pigs, they would say the same about United fans, but they would be wrong, fucking W*dnesday bastards that they are). Under the pigs is the classic anti-semitic slogan, so commonly seen across parts of the Middle East - "They say the Tory sums add up" (Did I mention the pigs have wings?)

Anyway, here are the posters for you to enjoy...





Labour withdraws Howard posters

Labour cheif hits back in poster row

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"I fully understand and respect the views of those who have concerns [about the posters]. Those poster designs were not in any shape or form anti-semitic - what they were was anti-Tory and I make no apology for that whatsoever."

Labour ads row is storm in a teacup - which contains possibly the best quote on this whole affair...

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"The accusations amount to a huge amount of bugger all...The story is a load of bollocks"

Well, there you go then!

Well, I'm not quite sure why you included the US in your argument, but since you did, I might as well correct your statistics. The number of anti-Jewish hate crimes in the US in 2003 was actually 1,025 victims:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/03hc.pdf

Despite the fact that it's still more than the 96 Uk anti-Jewish hate crimes (not sure where you got that figure from either), non-US people seem quite fond of using population proportionality when utilizing statistics. As such, it might be relevevant to your argument that the number of UK jews numbers at 267,000:

http://www.somethingjewish.co.uk/uk_jewish_faqs/

While the US Jewish population numbers at 6,155,000:

http://www.somethingjewish.co.uk/uk_jewish_faqs/

Therefore, proportionally, there are over 2.16 times the number of racial anti-Jewish attacks in the UK. That being cleared up, continue with your argument.

1,557 according to the Jerusalem Post

Either way, the United States is an anti-semitic country no? And even worse, at least the Europeans can blame it on the Muslim populations so as not to tar the vast majority of the population with the same brush. I saw a stat that said 9% of anti-semitism in Europe (or it may have been a particular country like the UK or France) were committed by non-Muslims. Now Muslims anti-semitism has its roots in the Arab-Israel conflict and the feelings go each way - anti-semitism from the Muslims and anti-Arabism from the Israelis - neither of which can be excused (altho both of which can be understood in a particular context).

On the other hand, how many anti-Semitic acts are carried out in America by Muslims (I believe the US has around 5 million Arab/Asian Muslims I think?) and how many are carried out by people more representative of your society as a whole (ie a majority section)? I would guess (unless you have sources to say otherwise) that a lot of these anti-Smeitic acts are carried out by your traditional KKK type people, which would imply that the US suffers from the more traditional anti-Semitism (ie the Nazi type, not the type with its roots in the Arab-Israel conflict) which IMO would make the US m a much more anti-semitic country than anywhere in Europe - Yet according to Jewish people and the Israelis, Europe is the problem and not one of them will ever make the same claims about America I WONDER WHY???

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Originally posted by occrider Well, I'm not quite sure why you included the US in your argument

Not really an argument just an absolute piss take out of this rediculous accusation that these posters are anti-Semitic which they clearly are not.

Just to reiterate, for our American friends with no grasp whatsoever of the concept of sarcasm....I do not think these posters are anti-semitic (and even Michael Howard has not made that claim, otherwise he'd be accused of PC gone mad!!! Ah...guess you have to be British to understand that one...oh well...)

Hm, kinda related to this issue, did anyone see those jews burning the german flag in front of Knesset when the german president held a speech there about holocaust? And those few right wingers who demonstratively left the parliament when he arrived?

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Hm, kinda related to this issue, did anyone see those jews burning the german flag in front of Knesset when the german president held a speech there about holocaust? And those few right wingers who demonstratively left the parliament when he arrived?

Well just goes to show that the Israelis/Jews are not immune from being outright racist too...

remember you can't criticise anyone (about anything) that happens to be jewish because its anti-semitism.

BTW one time I critiziced an amatuer dj because he screwed up on a transition. i guess that makes it an anti-semitic attack and me an anti-semite

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange remember you can't criticise anyone (about anything) that happens to be jewish because its anti-semitism. BTW one time I critiziced an amatuer dj because he screwed up on a transition. i guess that makes it an anti-semitic attack and me an anti-semite

oh c'mon. that ^^^ is anti-semitism.

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Originally posted by George Smiley 1,557 according to the Jerusalem Post

Ummm well since the FBI actually collates crime statistics and not the Jerusalem Post, I'm afraid I'm going to have to defer authority to the FBI unless you have a reasonable explanation as to why we shouldn't?

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Either way, the United States is an anti-semitic country no?

Every country is anti-semetic to a greater or lesser degree. What matters is what countries are doing to combat racial crimes, as opposed to blanket criticisms of those societies.

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And even worse, at least the Europeans can blame it on the Muslim populations so as not to tar the vast majority of the population with the same brush. I saw a stat that said 9% of anti-semitism in Europe (or it may have been a particular country like the UK or France) were committed by non-Muslims. Now Muslims anti-semitism has its roots in the Arab-Israel conflict and the feelings go each way - anti-semitism from the Muslims and anti-Arabism from the Israelis - neither of which can be excused (altho both of which can be understood in a particular context). On the other hand, how many anti-Semitic acts are carried out in America by Muslims (I believe the US has around 5 million Arab/Asian Muslims I think?) and how many are carried out by people more representative of your society as a whole (ie a majority section)? I would guess (unless you have sources to say otherwise) that a lot of these anti-Smeitic acts are carried out by your traditional KKK type people, which would imply that the US suffers from the more traditional anti-Semitism (ie the Nazi type, not the type with its roots in the Arab-Israel conflict) which IMO would make the US m a much more anti-semitic country than anywhere in Europe - Yet according to Jewish people and the Israelis, Europe is the problem and not one of them will ever make the same claims about America I WONDER WHY???

Haha so I guess European Muslims are not Europeans and are therefore not representative of European society??? Yup, we should redefine Europeans to singularly include white nordic/norman folk only. Yes, why that makes perfect sense. Much like black Americans are actually Africans and therefore any white against black crimes and vice-versa are merely anomalies that are hardly tools for criticism of "American" socitety as a whole. And of course Anti-Semiticism was non-existent in Europe prior to to the influx of its Muslim population despite history books which detail multiple centuries of abuse.

Quit the high and mighty "we are guilty of no wrongdoing compared to everyone else!!!" act and just accept the fact that Europe has a noticeable problem of anti-semiticism in as much as the US had a problem with racism in the latter 20th century and potentially a problem with anti-muslim culture today.

By the way ... no one claimed that the UK was the most anti-semetic country in the world so once again, there's no need to adopt an inferiority complex.

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Originally posted by George Smiley Well just goes to show that the Israelis/Jews are not immune from being outright racist too...

how so?

Think the reason he brought up the "most anti-semetic nation in the world" thing because of what came up in another thread once.

Also I, and I think alot of people, get confused when we get all these "anti-semetic" scandels because I've no idea of anyone who has even mentioned jews nevermind critisied them.

Love the quote about a huge amount of bugger all, utter bolocks. Seems very applicable.

Silly torries gave labour about �5 million worth of free advertising on news channels.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Hm, kinda related to this issue, did anyone see those jews burning the german flag in front of Knesset when the german president held a speech there about holocaust? And those few right wingers who demonstratively left the parliament when he arrived?

What the fuck?

And then jews whine about skinheads and "world-wide" hatred of jews.

If this kind of shit happens you deserve it.

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Originally posted by Cal What the fuck? And then jews whine about skinheads and "world-wide" hatred of jews. If this kind of shit happens you deserve it.

deserve it?

jews were put in gas chambers by germany 65 years ago. not the opposite.

so you can excuse those 20 stupid people burning the german flag. plus some stupid Knesset members that felt strange about this first time that the german language is heard in the israeli paeliment.

while the skinheads, well ... thanx for the comparison.

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Originally posted by Cal What the fuck? And then jews whine about skinheads and "world-wide" hatred of jews. If this kind of shit happens you deserve it.

try thinking before you speak for a change.

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Originally posted by Yoepus try thinking before you speak for a change.

Aw are you upset because I made fun of your beloved president in the communist thread and you can't say anything in return?

And as to the guy that wrote the post above, germany didn't kill jews, nazis that happened to be german did, there is a vital difference, and one that any competent MPs of a government should know.

How the fuck do you expect people to stop hating you if hatred similar to what hitler preached is tolerated in israeli PARLIAMENT?!

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Originally posted by Cal How the fuck do you expect people to stop hating you if hatred similar to what hitler preached is tolerated in israeli PARLIAMENT?!

i dont believe i need to explain this.
the hatred that hitler preached was based racism. the hatred demonstrared by those israelis is based on the Holocaust. something that happened 65 years ago - not 2000.
and do you compare what was done to people in the Holocaust to a burning of flag by 20 stupid people?

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Originally posted by Flotser i dont believe i need to explain this. the hatred that hitler preached was based racism. the hatred demonstrared by those israelis is based on the Holocaust. something that happened 65 years ago - not 2000. and do you compare what was done to people in the Holocaust to a burning of flag by 20 stupid people?

I don't care about a bunch of retards. Every country has retards.
But not every country has them in the goddamn Parliament.

The guy is german, but I doubt he was even alive at the time of WW2, and even if he was he was prolly too busy sucking milk from his mother's breast as she ran from soviet bombers to care.

And he comes to Israel to apologise for something he wasn't even involved in, because that is his duty as a statesman, and hes insulted by other statesmen from israel just because he is a german? Even Dubya has more sense than that.

Tell me that isn't racism.

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Originally posted by Cal And he comes to Israel to apologise for something he wasn't even involved in, because that is his duty as a statesman, and hes insulted by other statesmen from israel just because he is a german? Even Dubya has more sense than that. Tell me that isn't racism.

Well, that's not actually racism per se, but it's extremely stupid nonetheless.

Cal go watch some history shows or read a book.
The Germans DID kill the Jews. And not only them, many of your Ukrainian kin as well who weren't even remotely associated with the Nazis.

Contrary to your precieved belief, it was not one man that killed the Jews. No, its not all Hilters fault. And no, its not all the Nazi's fault either. It was a Pan-European, and specifically German fault. I know this is hard for you to understand, but thousands upon thousands, upon thousands of Germans killed millions of Jews. Those rest of the Germansthat didn't actively stood by in support of the genoicide. Reporting Jews where they were spotted in almost all of the cases.

This anti-semtism was not Hilter's fault - he did not make it all up - it existed in the people before, and they awoke on it.

Germans didn't treat Jews with any ounce of human decency. Jews were treated like rats, if not worse. And the whole German society stood by quietly in active support.

So why is it so hard to believe that some people have not forgotten like you have? And do not beleif that one generation can simply wipe its hands clean of the crimes comitted by its fathers? Why is it so hard for you to understand that people who experienced the holocaust are still alive in Israel - they know excatly what the Germans did.

I'm talking about the fact that the German's PM's father was probably either an active or passive support of what happened to the Jews. Your talking about on the Israeli sides entire families, with cousins, sibblings, nephews, etc, families of hundreds of which only one or two survived.

One doesn't forget things such as these quickly. One doesn't forget that the Germans tried to destory the Jewish race from the earth once and from all - and came pretty close.

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I'm talking about the fact that the German's PM's father was probably either an active or passive support of what happened to the Jews.

Hah yeah one of your finer arguments right there, especially with the words "fact" "probably" and "or" in the same claim.
I also liked the one where you say that children are responsible for the crimes of their fathers.

I'm sorry to say that you and few other select people I've met over the course of my life make me feel sad about Hitler failing.

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Originally posted by Cal I'm sorry to say that you and few other select people I've met over the course of my life make me feel sad about Hitler failing.

well, thats nice to know.

you feel sad he failed in this? <---

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Originally posted by Flotser well, thats nice to know. you feel sad he failed in this? <---

Im still waiting for your answer to my question earlier

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The guy is german, but I doubt he was even alive at the time of WW2, and even if he was he was prolly too busy sucking milk from his mother's breast as she ran from soviet bombers to care. And he comes to Israel to apologise for something he wasn't even involved in, because that is his duty as a statesman, and hes insulted by other statesmen from israel just because he is a german? Even Dubya has more sense than that. Tell me how that isn't racism

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Originally posted by Cal Im still waiting for your answer to my question earlier

i dont beleive that you can ignore that picture above like this.

Lira answered your question - i felt it was enough. and no i dont think its racism. because racism is hatred based on race. those few parliment members left the room from differnt resons. i guess they feel its not enough that the guy comes and apologizes. so he himself wasnt involved in what was going on, but he represents the country that did something that is realy unforgivable.
i dont agree with what they did, but leaving the room is not racism. what about the UN special session that was held few weeks ago?, and was dedicated for the 60th anniversary of the liberation of the death camps. it was the first time such seesion was ever held - half of the sits were empty. i dont see you get all mad about that.

tell you the truth, my hands shake abit when in try to discuss with you after that last statment of yours about Hitler.

Oh get on with your life already.

Slavs, my ethnicity, were only one rung above jews in Hitlers book, and millions of them died in the camps too.
Millions of Ukrainians died as a result of Stalin's starvation in the 1930's, and 1 in 6 died in WW2.
My grandfather's great grandmother was sold as a slave by the Turks.

If I start hating every race/ethnicity that has ever done wrong to my race/ethnicity im not going to have time for anything else.

Just stop whining about everything and get on with your life already.

why do you put words in my mouth??

i said i hate a race? i said i hate germans? i said anything that sounds like it????.
i just explained why what the knesset memners did was not racism.

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