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Posted by Typoed on Feb-02-2005 01:02:

Trance Genres for a Noob

Hey, I'm very new to trance and EDM in general. I'm currently trying to figure out what genre of trance I like. I need some help.

My favorite songs so far are...

Xpander (sasha??)
Requiem for a Dream (leama and moor)
ATB Don't Stop
For an Angel (Paul van Dyk)
Godspeed (BT)
uh...
Crayons (Leama & Moor)
Magnetic North (Sasha)
Nothing but you (Paul van Dyk)

Is there a genre that defines most of these?
What other songs might I like?

Thanks!


Posted by Sykonee on Feb-02-2005 08:29:

You enjoy EDM. That's all the genres you should be concerned about. Have fun exploring its large field.


Posted by nrgtrance39 on Feb-02-2005 08:33:

agreed, do not waste to much time analyzing each song, if its good its good.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Feb-02-2005 13:41:

Re: Trance Genres for a Noob

Xpander (sasha??) : progressive trance
Requiem for a Dream (leama and moor) progressive trance
ATB Don't Stop trance
For an Angel (Paul van Dyk) trance
Godspeed (BT) trance
uh...
Crayons (Leama & Moor) progressive trance
Magnetic North (Sasha) (never heard it)
Nothing but you (Paul van Dyk) trance

Is there a genre that defines most of these?
What other songs might I like?


Posted by DTTA on Feb-02-2005 14:15:

Have a play around at http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html

It will give you ideas on styles of music to look for you may never have known even existed....

EDM is so much more interesting and stimulating than mainstream.


Posted by PlasticSoul on Feb-02-2005 14:28:

Re: Trance Genres for a Noob

quote:
Originally posted by Typoed
Hey, I'm very new to trance and EDM in general. I'm currently trying to figure out what genre of trance I like. I need some help.

My favorite songs so far are...

Xpander (sasha??)
Requiem for a Dream (leama and moor)
Godspeed (BT)
Crayons (Leama & Moor)
Magnetic North (Sasha)

What other songs might I like?

Thanks!


I think u re more into prog trance, try listen these artists:
James Holden
Tilt
Subsky
Solar Stone

And for more other good artists I recommend u:
m.i.k.e. aka push aka plastic boy
airwave aka aka planisphere capetown aka lolo aka fire and ice (producing with dj fire)
thrillseekers
pulser
lange

after listening to these tell me what u think and i can give u more recommendations.


Posted by websley on Feb-02-2005 15:51:

quote:
Originally posted by DTTA
Have a play around at http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html

It will give you ideas on styles of music to look for you may never have known even existed....

EDM is so much more interesting and stimulating than mainstream.

Now be very carefull while reading this guys' crap! To Ishkur, the whole epic Trance-scene seems to suck. (Which is nonsense of course!)


Posted by D-res on Feb-02-2005 16:20:

quote:
Originally posted by websley
Now be very carefull while reading this guys' crap! To Ishkur, the whole epic Trance-scene seems to suck. (Which is nonsense of course!)


very true... although the guide is useful to help categorize your tastes, the guide is INCREDIBLY opinionated, so dont assume what you like is complete crap, just cause it says so. I recommend just reading the titles to find out what edm subgenre you're listening to and then listen to the samples.

sad thing is, in some sub-genres, Ishkur provides samples of some terrible crap with trance classics.

It's not fully accurate, but its a good place to start


Posted by Lira on Feb-02-2005 16:35:

quote:
Originally posted by websley
To Ishkur, the whole epic Trance-scene seems to suck. (Which is nonsense of course!)

I'd say that's one of the most accurate things in his guide.

I like the music, but I'm aware of what it's done to trance.


Posted by Gholy Host on Feb-02-2005 17:51:

Re: Re: Trance Genres for a Noob

quote:
Originally posted by PlasticSoul
I think u re more into prog trance, try listen these artists:
James Holden
Tilt
Subsky
Solar Stone

And for more other good artists I recommend u:
m.i.k.e. aka push aka plastic boy
airwave aka aka planisphere capetown aka lolo aka fire and ice (producing with dj fire)
thrillseekers
pulser
lange

after listening to these tell me what u think and i can give u more recommendations.



Tilt and Solarstone, yeah. But only Holden's early stuff, his recent stuff is just trippy. And Subsky seems to span a couple categories of EDM as well.

-And at this point if you like ATB (as I do, but many people will flame you for it), I'd recommend checking out his other stuff. His flavor never really changes, so if you like one ATB track, odds are you like all of them.


Posted by Cobalt on Feb-02-2005 18:02:

Re: Trance Genres for a Noob

quote:
Originally posted by Typoed

Xpander, progressive trance
Don't Stop, eurotrance
For an Angel, epic trance
Crayons, American progressive
Magnetic North, progressive
Nothing But You, epic trance


Posted by Cobalt on Feb-02-2005 18:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I'd say that's one of the most accurate things in his guide.

I like the music, but I'm aware of what it's done to trance.

It's both true and not. He has very valid points about the commercialization of trance that are correct, but presents them in a brutal and arrogant style that takes getting used to. These days I can translate through it to what he might say were he not so compelled to load it with acidic sarcasm, as if it were some dialect, but I personally think the flavor it adds isn't worth the trouble.

My only beef with him these days is the criticism of progressive trance as a genre name. Progressive wasn't conceived as a pretentious label -- although it morphed into that -- but merely as a label for the progressions which highlighted the subgenre.

And his refusal to separate eurotrance from epic trance, but that's another issue.


Posted by Typoed on Feb-02-2005 22:06:

Thanks for all the feedback!

I'll look into everything you all said and maybe I'll find some more stuff I like.


Posted by websley on Feb-03-2005 18:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I'd say that's one of the most accurate things in his guide.

I personally think that his protest against the "progressive-this" and the "progressive-that" is the most accurate.


Posted by Exodus17 on Feb-03-2005 19:02:

cool thing about EDM is that all each diff sub-genre has tracks like no other

one of my fav attributes to EDM is that just about all of it is and can be mixed on turntables which make the turntable an instrument for a very wide range of different music

if you're interrested, suggest sampling tracks from other sub genres of EDM

- House is pretty cool, alittle slower in general than trance, very clubby and lots of fun

-Drum n'Bass(DnB)/Jungle is an entirely different world, personally i dont really like any dnb with an MC rapping over it unless it sounds good, usually it sounds like a bunch of gibberish, there are alot of tracks without vocals however that are pretty impressive IMO - the main diff between dnb and other stuff like trance and house is that DnB can be really DARK, if you listen to any dnb you NEED a subwoofer to get the full effect of the bass, without the heavy bass its really hard to get a feel for the music

My DnB Artist reccomendations -
Teebee
Future Prophecies
Purple Unit
Concord Dawn
DJ Hive
Rubix
Dieselboy
Ak1200
Evol Intent
Resonant Evil
just to name a few - definately check out Teebee - Invasion and Black Rain, smooth, hard, deep, trippy... also Future Prophecies Vs. Teebee - Dimensional Entity

Trance Artist recomendations -
Armin van buren
Tiesto
Paul van dyk
George Acosta
Push
Solar Stone
Mauro Picotto

keep in mind there are always tracks in a genre that wont appeal to you very much and then there are quite a few that will take your breath away


Posted by websley on Feb-03-2005 19:23:

Mauro Picotto is actually more Techno, only the hits were Trance or either Trance-remade. (For example: Like This Like That, was originally Techno)


Posted by Exodus17 on Feb-03-2005 19:47:

Back to Cali & Komodo are pretty trancy, even if its not exactly "Trance" it doesnt need to be... my gf says i need to expand my horizons or something cus according to her all i listen to is techno
which i find to be an absurd statement b/c i like all sorts of music-

Trance(almost any and all forms)
DnB(especially the dark stuff)
House
Trip hop
breaks
techno
gabba
hardcore/hardstyle
jazz
old school stuff like the beatles, pink floyd, rush, van halen
......

even though recently all ive rocked is trance and dnb

just wonderin Typoed - what styles peak your interest most?

hard
soft
fast
slow
melodic
progessive
epic
tech


check out some psytrance also - Astrix, Infected Mushroom cant think of any others off the top of my head but its pretty cool if you have a spot for long drawn out stuff


Posted by Typoed on Feb-03-2005 23:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Exodus17

just wonderin Typoed - what styles peak your interest most?

hard
soft
fast
slow
melodic
progessive
epic
tech


check out some psytrance also - Astrix, Infected Mushroom cant think of any others off the top of my head but its pretty cool if you have a spot for long drawn out stuff


I think I like melodic, progressive, epic. Really anything that has a definite melody and conveys emotion. I'm not too much into (but still enjoy) the repetitive stuff with lots of just beats and what not..
Maybe thats cause I haven't tried listening to this stuff for dancing.

As far as psytrance, I've listened to some and I usually really like it, though it can sometimes bore me if its tooo drawn out.
I really like Experimental Dose (Safi Connection)


Posted by madhattared on Feb-04-2005 03:20:

just keep an eye on the what are you listenting to thread. and if u acquire those tunes u'll be familiar with edm in no time.


Posted by Steve Stephano on Feb-04-2005 07:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Exodus17
my gf says i need to expand my horizons or something cus according to her all i listen to is techno


What she really means is that you need to start listening to proper music like Nelly, JT and Britney Spears!


Posted by Settepotet on Feb-04-2005 12:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
You enjoy EDM. That's all the genres you should be concerned about. Have fun exploring its large field.


pure wisdom.


Posted by dj10 on Feb-04-2005 14:48:

Wow, I am a amazed At how helpful u guys are!! usually when noob asks a question. all i see is pretensious flaming. Glad to see decent people still do exist on Trance addicts!! and i agree with most dont worry bout that stuff i did when i first listen to EDM. Now i Just Worry bout what sounds good to me. =�_ WATCH OUT for ORY!!


Posted by Project 7 on Feb-04-2005 15:06:

Just listen some stuff from

Rank 1
Tiesto
Paul Van Dyk
Solar Stone
Rapid Eye
Above & Beyond
Chicane
System F (Ferry Coreston)
The Thrillseekers

After them your officially a Trance Addict

Also if you like cheese dont post it on here no one seems to welcome it but some of it is ok stuff

Also check out some Dj Pis mixes there free to download from his site and most are awesome and some good trance in them


Posted by noikeee on Feb-04-2005 15:20:

quote:
Originally posted by websley
Mauro Picotto is actually more Techno, only the hits were Trance or either Trance-remade. (For example: Like This Like That, was originally Techno)


wasn't Like This Like That a shitty trance ripoff of another trance track, Armin's Blue Fear?


Posted by Minhaj on Feb-04-2005 23:35:

Re: Trance Genres for a Noob

quote:
Originally posted by Typoed
Hey, I'm very new to trance and EDM in general. I'm currently trying to figure out what genre of trance I like. I need some help.

My favorite songs so far are...

Xpander (sasha??)
Requiem for a Dream (leama and moor)
ATB Don't Stop
For an Angel (Paul van Dyk)
Godspeed (BT)
uh...
Crayons (Leama & Moor)
Magnetic North (Sasha)
Nothing but you (Paul van Dyk)

Is there a genre that defines most of these?
What other songs might I like?

Thanks!


if i were u i would stay away from the old ATB shit, his new stuff is 100x times better


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