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Posted by azndragon0613 on Feb-02-2005 23:56:

V-station equalizing

can you equalize in v-station...i can't seem ot get the right sounds...especially the chorus hting...i can't get hte flanged effect...it's tough not using the fruity plugins...anyone have v-station presets they can share?

[Edit] go to the last post by me

Posted by Luke Terry on Feb-03-2005 00:01:

your best bet is to use external fx with any synth, the ones inbuilt with the synth can be very limiting

Posted by azndragon0613 on Feb-03-2005 05:31:

i downloaded the sample off of the v-station website

it's funny that i can't get the flanger/delay/reverb or the equalization to the sounds they have in the sample.

about the external fx. where can i get them besides the ones in fruity loops

Posted by 4am on Feb-03-2005 21:09:

try www.kvraudio.com

They have tons of free and commercial fx.

Posted by azndragon0613 on Feb-06-2005 01:52:

haha i just found out i can use fruity plugins with v-station

anyways, yah v-station is pretty powerful..sounds are fuller than the generators in fruity...

only problem i have is the envelope amount...which i dont' kno how to do

download the sample here and i'll explain. (right click)

in the sample the first melody is with v-station. as i increase cut frequency there isn't any rhythm or pulsating feeling...it just kind of blends...however in the second melody as the cut frequency increases the enveloping creates that pulsing rhythm...any suggestions on how to get a similar feel with v-station as you increase cut freq?

Posted by 4am on Feb-06-2005 03:14:

Tweak the Resonance too!

Posted by azndragon0613 on Feb-06-2005 06:04:

is hte resonance too high?...haha envelope!

Posted by 4am on Feb-06-2005 06:13:

No, I just didn't really understand what you were looking for. I thought you didn't know to tweak the resonance as well as the cut off - as for the pulsing you're talking about, I guess I don't know what you mean... Maybe I could help if I had an example of the exact effect you want? Because at first, I thought the sample above what what you were trying to achieve, not what you had already done. That's why I said tweak resonance.

Posted by azndragon0613 on Feb-06-2005 06:48:

oh i see...i'm messing aroudn with the first instrument or melody...i want it so that when i increase cut freq it sounds good...like not all blended and mushy...distinct notes and stuff like that of the melody that follows...the second melody has a distinct rhythm and doesn't sound mushy when the cut freq is low

Posted by UphoricNitemare on Feb-06-2005 13:26:

Try adding some compression?

Posted by 4am on Feb-06-2005 16:01:

After listening to the sample again, BOTH samples sound absolutely correct. There seems to be nothing wrong. Different sounds will respond a bit differently to cutoff but BOTH are just the way I'd expect them to sound.

Posted by azndragon0613 on Feb-06-2005 20:01:

ah i see. different instruments have different sounds when u increase cut...anyways...i got it sounding better wtih the keytrack nob

did u guys notice that when the cut freq is low..there is this little clicky sound...how do i get rid of that?

Posted by 4am on Feb-06-2005 21:44:

You could use EQ effects (parametric EQ or Graphic EQ). These are not on your V-station. You have to assign your V-Station to a mixer track and put the EQ there. By the way, Cutoff and Resonance are Filter controls, not EQ.

Posted by UphoricNitemare on Feb-06-2005 21:45:

increase attack, decay, or raise cut

Posted by 4am on Feb-06-2005 21:46:

To be more descriptive, Open a parametric EQ effect in the mixer channel where you've assigned your v-station and play with the sliders until the click sound goes away. However, this may change the character of the sound as the filter opens up. I really think your filters sound just like they should. Resonance can cause the sound to be clicky (for lack of a better word) so try different resonance settings to get rid of that too. Are you using FL?

If so, maybe I can help you more.

Posted by azndragon0613 on Feb-07-2005 00:41:

yes i'm using fl

the v-station manual says that you increase attack time..but the click only disappears when the attack time is very higher = not very good sounds...

Posted by 4am on Feb-07-2005 02:53:

Well, what the attack does is change how fast a note comes full on. Raising the attack keeps the sound from having a 'pluck'.... I'm not explaining this very well. Do you have MSN Messenger? If so, add me to your list: [email protected] and maybe we can work on this by using FL Studio files and passing them back and forth until you get the help you need.

Posted by rb2k1 on Feb-07-2005 16:14:

www.audiopioneers.net has some tutorials up on it for vstation check em out

~Ross B