TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Chill Out Room
-- hair loss / baldness
Pages (2): [1] 2 »

hair loss / baldness

Hi guys,

I'm 21 + as far as i know i still have a full head of hair.

but there's a guy who site next to me at work and he's 27. and he's nearly totally bald.

he's for a bit around the back and sides, but nothing on top.

the prospect of going bald at such a young age frightens me.
i do not wanna go bald at a young age

at what age does hairloss usually start to arrect men?

Dave

I've been balding since I was 19

I'll be 21 in March. No worries tho, since I keep my hair really short anyhow. Besides, you can lose worse things than your hair.

I think it all depends on how you eat and what you eat. I think you have to eat healthier and etc to keep your hair in tact. No, i'm serious! Its what I heard on TLC i think. Anyways, the use of gel and hair wax is also not that healthy. Washing you hair with various types of shampoo is not good either. Find one and settle on it. Minimize gel and wax use. That's all i know.

*waits for igottagrow's response

I'll lose my hair. I'm over it. It's already starting to go, so I just shave it all off now. I think it looks better this way anyways.

quote:

Originally posted by mto I think it all depends on how you eat and what you eat. I think you have to eat healthier and etc to keep your hair in tact. No, i'm serious! Its what I heard on TLC i think. Anyways, the use of gel and hair wax is also not that healthy. Washing you hair with various types of shampoo is not good either. Find one and settle on it. Minimize gel and wax use. That's all i know.

TLC? How about biology. It's mostly genetic.

quote:

Originally posted by th0m TLC? How about biology. It's mostly genetic.

Well yeah it can be inherited, but there are other factors. Anyways, I won't preach since I really don't know much about it. Only saying what i heard.

im 22 and im starting to lose it but i could really care less about it. theres more important things to worry about then going bald. but if you are worried about it then you should know that there are treatments that actually work. if you have a few grand laying around you could get the hair transplant surgery which is supposed to be the best "treatment". ive heard that a few celebrities have had it done but i cant remember any names. i guess you could get an extensive hat collection as cheap alternative. theres other stuff out there that can help. you should try searching the net im sure there are articles and studies done about the different drugs, creams, surgeries, etc.

The gene for baldness is passed down thru your mother. If your mothers father was bald, it is likely that you will be bald.

I suggest utilizing the combover. It is an ancient technique mastered by ameteur bowlers from around the country.

quote:

Originally posted by Ygrene The gene for baldness is passed down thru your mother. If your mothers father was bald, it is likely that you will be bald.

That's a blatant myth.

quote:

Originally posted by Boomer187 I suggest utilizing the combover. It is an ancient technique mastered by ameteur bowlers from around the country.

ill show you how the pros do it

quote:

Originally posted by jonze234

lol, beat me to it

quote:

Originally posted by UWM

subtle

Yeah man. You can hardly tell it's a combover!

quote:

Originally posted by UWM That's a blatant myth.

No, it's not. It's genetic fact.

bald men turn me on

Haha, okay. Whatever you want to believe, you can go ahead believing.

quote:

Originally posted by Ygrene No, it's not. It's genetic fact.

lol, can you cite a reputable source?

Here are the basics of it:

Male Pattern Baldness is hereditary, you get it from your mother! The explaination is genetic and linked to your mother's X-Chromosome. There is also an explaination of how your mother got the gene! There is currently a popular commercial on television talking about a hair loss prevention product that is �stronger than heredity�. The commercial has a young man who talks about his father, who like most men in his family, was bald by 30. The commercial is both right and wrong, Male Pattern Baldness is hereditary and you get it from your mother!


The explanation is that the genetic reason for Pattern Baldness is linked to your mother's X-Chromosome. Everyone get one-half of their genetic make-up from their mother and their father. The final chromosome pair of the 23 pairs is the sex determining set. While males are XY and females are XX the determination of an individuals sex is made by the father. It is the father who gives either the X chromosome, which matches with the woman�s X resulting in XX and a female child or the Y chromosome which joins with the woman�s X resulting in an XY match and a male child. It is the X chromosome or female sex chromosome that contains the gene for Male Pattern Baldness.


Since men have only one X chromosome, the gene for baldness is a single expression gene that shows up because there is no possible dominant gene to suppress what would normally be a recessive or hidden characteristic. Since Male Pattern Baldness gene is only on the X chromosome and men can only get that chromosome from their mothers, it is simple to see how this type of baldness is passed from mother to son.


The fact that it seems that men in families often have many generations of bald men tend to make this explanation of hard to believe, yet genetics explain it. Male Pattern Baldness is a condition that as previously stated is on a gene on the X chromosome. Since this form of baldness is recessive, it will be hidden if only one of the dominant genes is present. Since women have the XX chromosome pair, baldness will not occur unless both chromosomes have the recessive gene that causes baldness. A woman could have one of three genetic conditions:


Both X chromosomes with normal gene represented by Xn Xn this would appear as normal. One normal and one baldness gene on the X chromosome pair represented by Xn Xb, this would appear as normal. Both X chromosomes with the baldness gene represented by Xb Xb, this would appear as a woman with pattern baldness



Given these three female genetic possibilities there are 4 possibilities for male offspring:


1 for the first woman - 1 normal male XnY

2 for the second woman � 1 normal/ 1 bald male XnY / XbY

1 for the third woman � 1 bald male XbY


Once a male is born with the baldness gene he automatically passes it on to all his female offspring. If his mate is normal with the gene for baldness (Xn Xb) each female child born has a 50-50 chance of being born with male pattern baldness. This is because bald men can only give the Xb gene. This causes bald men to pass the gene and deplete the stock of Xn Xn females. This is how the women are able to keep producing males with pattern baldness. In total population about 30% of all females are Pattern Bald.


Below is a set of charts that illustrate the pattern.


Key Xn = normal Xb = Pattern Bald

XX = female XY = male


Normal Male Normal Female


Xn Xn


Xn Xn Xn Xn Xn

Y XnY XnY

Results All Normal




Normal Male Female recessive


Xn Xb


Xn Xn Xn Xn Xb

Y XnY XbY

Results: 2 normal females (one with trait for baldness) 1 normal male � 1 bald male



Bald Male Female recessive


Xn Xb


Xb Xn Xb Xb Xb

Y XnY XbY

Results: 1 normal females(with trait for baldness) � 1 bald female � 1 normal male - 1 bald male



Bald Male Bald Female


Xb Xb


Xb Xb Xb Xb Xb

Y XbY XbY

Results: All Bald

quote:

Originally posted by Ygrene Here are the basics of it: Male Pattern Baldness is hereditary, you get it from your mother! The explaination is genetic and linked to your mother's X-Chromosome. There is also an explaination of how your mother got the gene! There is currently a popular commercial on television talking about a hair loss prevention product that is �stronger than heredity�. The commercial has a young man who talks about his father, who like most men in his family, was bald by 30. The commercial is both right and wrong, Male Pattern Baldness is hereditary and you get it from your mother! The explanation is that the genetic reason for Pattern Baldness is linked to your mother's X-Chromosome. Everyone get one-half of their genetic make-up from their mother and their father. The final chromosome pair of the 23 pairs is the sex determining set. While males are XY and females are XX the determination of an individuals sex is made by the father. It is the father who gives either the X chromosome, which matches with the woman�s X resulting in XX and a female child or the Y chromosome which joins with the woman�s X resulting in an XY match and a male child. It is the X chromosome or female sex chromosome that contains the gene for Male Pattern Baldness. Since men have only one X chromosome, the gene for baldness is a single expression gene that shows up because there is no possible dominant gene to suppress what would normally be a recessive or hidden characteristic. Since Male Pattern Baldness gene is only on the X chromosome and men can only get that chromosome from their mothers, it is simple to see how this type of baldness is passed from mother to son. The fact that it seems that men in families often have many generations of bald men tend to make this explanation of hard to believe, yet genetics explain it. Male Pattern Baldness is a condition that as previously stated is on a gene on the X chromosome. Since this form of baldness is recessive, it will be hidden if only one of the dominant genes is present. Since women have the XX chromosome pair, baldness will not occur unless both chromosomes have the recessive gene that causes baldness. A woman could have one of three genetic conditions: Both X chromosomes with normal gene represented by Xn Xn this would appear as normal. One normal and one baldness gene on the X chromosome pair represented by Xn Xb, this would appear as normal. Both X chromosomes with the baldness gene represented by Xb Xb, this would appear as a woman with pattern baldness Given these three female genetic possibilities there are 4 possibilities for male offspring: 1 for the first woman - 1 normal male XnY 2 for the second woman � 1 normal/ 1 bald male XnY / XbY 1 for the third woman � 1 bald male XbY Once a male is born with the baldness gene he automatically passes it on to all his female offspring. If his mate is normal with the gene for baldness (Xn Xb) each female child born has a 50-50 chance of being born with male pattern baldness. This is because bald men can only give the Xb gene. This causes bald men to pass the gene and deplete the stock of Xn Xn females. This is how the women are able to keep producing males with pattern baldness. In total population about 30% of all females are Pattern Bald. Below is a set of charts that illustrate the pattern. Key Xn = normal Xb = Pattern Bald XX = female XY = male Normal Male Normal Female Xn Xn Xn Xn Xn Xn Xn Y XnY XnY Results All Normal Normal Male Female recessive Xn Xb Xn Xn Xn Xn Xb Y XnY XbY Results: 2 normal females (one with trait for baldness) 1 normal male � 1 bald male Bald Male Female recessive Xn Xb Xb Xn Xb Xb Xb Y XnY XbY Results: 1 normal females(with trait for baldness) � 1 bald female � 1 normal male - 1 bald male Bald Male Bald Female Xb Xb Xb Xb Xb Xb Xb Y XbY XbY Results: All Bald

OWNED!!!

quote:

Originally posted by Boomer187 lol, can you cite a reputable source?

eh, i found this but it doesnt say anything about it coming from your mothers father so i dont really know what that guy is talking about. i guess indirectly you could say that your mother's father effects baldness since its still genetics.


WebMD Baldness

quote:

Originally posted by Boomer187 *waits for igottagrow's response

I'm not bald yet but i'd be more than happy to give my input (seems like I'm the resident expert).
Like someone said look at picture of your mother's father for a glimps into the future. Btw, you don't wake up one morning to find yourself bald its a gradual process that takes more than a decade to happen.

What ever you do, don't try to hide it. Comb overs are the worst (see the Donald). Short haircuts look best and complete shave can look good too, women seem to find it sexy. Goodluck with your insecurities and welcome to the hair club for men.

I know genetics. I've taken like 6 genetics courses and several on molecular biology and biochemistry. There is a lot more to baldness than dominant and recessive genes.

Not pwned.

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.