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changing uni course, need suggestions...
Im halfway through my 2nd year of electronic & electrical engineering and ive decided that its shit and i want to change to something else. I just had 4 exams and passed 1 out of 4 which is another reason why im quitting. The lecturers for this course just expect too much out of us - expecting us to do 3hours+ of uni work every night (after a 7 hour day at uni) which i think is bollocks. A couple of good mates just dropped out as well, which sucks. Also, most of the ppl in my course are nobs - tons of long-haired, sweaty, smelly unsociable heavy-matal fans (u know the type) and theres only like 5 girls in my class out of like 50
aaaaanyway... i dont have a fuckin clue what to change to, so i was lookin for some suggestions. What courses are you guys doing? Are they easy/hard/interesting/not much work involved/etc? I really dont know what to pick (everything in the prospectus looks pants tbh :P) hence why im posting here.
Has anyone else changed before? cos i was also wondering whether i would get funded (loan,etc) for doing an extra year at uni?
Thanks 
im changing courses this coming year hopefully
from comp science to music tech, shouldnt be too much of a ball ache i guess
but jus the loan people you need to watch! lol
I just finnished an EE degree. I know what you mean about the geeks and lack of birdies.
I had the same problem with my mates all dropping out and stuff. But I just stuck to it.
I don't know if just changing course is the best idea. Because if what your doing is worth anything it'll be hard. Otherwise when you leave you'll end up working in some frigging call center or some shit.
PS: What uni you at? Is it an MEng/BEng/BSc? Remember if you do one more year you get a non-honours degree (better than fuck all, probebly as good as a third class hons, esp if your marks are shit).
Frase, you're in coventry eh? what uni u at?
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| Originally posted by Dervish I had the same problem with my mates all dropping out and stuff. But I just stuck to it. |
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PS: What uni you at? Is it an MEng/BEng/BSc? Remember if you do one more year you get a non-honours degree (better than fuck all, probebly as good as a third class hons, esp if your marks are shit). |
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| Originally posted by Trancedewd yeh thats the thing...im having trouble sticking with it. its getting to the point where i just dont bother getting out my bed cos the thought of goin into uni is depressing. i think im enjoying my part-time job at safeways more than uni |
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Im at Strathclyde Uni in glasgow and im doing a BEng (too stupid for MEng lol) Do u think finishing after 3rd year would get me a decent job? Did you manage to get a good job straight after finishing your degree? (seeing as thats what uni's alsways promise ) |
hmmm...i guess i could stay on (got resits for exams, etc) and finish with a basic degree but i dunno if i'd enjoy it. i was also thinking of what kind of job i would end up with after my degree. Im sure it would be well paid...but it could be the shittest job ever. What are you/will you be doing for Rolls Royce? Where did other people you know apply for jobs?
Also, how easy do you think it would be to get a job with some company like technics/vestax/pioneer/numark? cos that would be a good job imo. but im guessing they maybe only look for MEng engnieers that have super degrees...
Well like you say it can be well paid but shitty. I'll likely be some form of plant engineer or "design" engineer. (""= not really design) The way I see it is to get experiance then move up the ladder to better jobs (and chartered). The intial job will possibly be quite dull and not use all my skills. But I'll be learning and getting experiance all the time. But even in the summer work I was having meetings with and presenting to people commanding �300+ million a year budgets tho.
Working for vestax and so on would be difficult I'd think as they'd most likely want people with serious experiance for any design work, but having said that a mate of mine got quite far applying for a uber high cost audio gear job.
Most of the guys from my course are working for oil firms. Mostly on shore just now, but they get a bonus for going off shore.
But when you compare 1) the money 2) the promotion prospects to some joke job, which it's highly likly you'll have to take if you do some joke degree.
Remember with decent qualifications you can do anything, I've thought of the forces and maybe moving to Canada.
thanks for the info man
i think ill stay on till the end of this year and then decide what im gonna do. i can see where your coming from with the 'do a shit degree and get a shit job/future prospects' thing so i think will avoid changing to an easy degree.
Oh, i forgot to mention another thing about this degree which is shit - computer programming - this has to be the lamest, most boring, tedious thing ever and its fuckin compulsary
i dunno how people can do this as a lifetime job 
I've done my fair share of that....... more than fair......
C, C++, Asssembler, Verilog little bit of VHDL, I'm sure there are some others. But basicly learning them is tough, but it's like riding a bike once you do it it's done and just like writing curning it out.
Thing is I hate maths so I always did the programming modules because I just can't do the maths. And theres no maths in programming. 
I'll not be writing one line of code in my future jobs though, just getting my bit of paper that says I'm an engineer.
Also cheating on the courseworks is easy. 
EDIT: Also when you actually go into work the people will be ok in the main. No-one likes to employ arseholes or geeks. So you can get a good laugh normally, though most people will be older, some nice looking girls work in real firms too.
I used to love working in safeways though no responcibilty and just basicly liked working for banter.
dropping out is fairly standard with engineering courses. my brother dropped out of his engineering course i think, to go into a different one, or he changed the level of his degree, but he told me that oit of a class of about 50 or more theres only about 12 or less left in the final year. my mate was doing a mechanical engineering course, and im pretty sure that a lot of folk have dropped out his course. in fact hes actually taken a year out cos he found it too hard.
as for birds in the course, do a scoial sciences subject. im studying law, and id say the whole law school is at a guess, 80% female, and in my sociology class, id say the figure was about the same.
if i was you id stick with the engineering, as theres plenty of opportunity out there for jobs. especially in places like Dubai, where you can get a really fucking good standard of living.
uni is just a ballache full stop.
no one prepares u wot so ever for the shock u get when u get there. its not just the work, or the living on ur own is just a combination of everything and it can really get on top of you if ur not careful. people who say uni life is just a doss really dont see the bigger picture. yes there are times when u can sit around doing fuck all but the amount of work u have to do to catch up if u do that is ridiculous. i fucked up last year and am now resitting the year as a result. i thought about changing course as like with ur experience more than half the people who started our course dropped out. but in the end i decided that working hard at wot i was doing and gettin something that i can make a career out of was a whole lot more important to me than changing to something that was easy but with no prospects. once i got that into my head i've been much happier to do wot i am doing and this year has gone pretty well so far.
i dunno really if any of that helps u at all but ive had a tough time all in all at uni but ive come out the other end and its all worked out for the best so far, so i think my advice is to just stick with it mate 
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| Originally posted by Absolut_Vodka Frase, you're in coventry eh? what uni u at? |
I trasnfered courses (and uni's!). was doing maths at leeds uni transfered to retailing management at leeds met, both uni's were fine and I kept them both imformed of my reasons (thought maths sucked!) and kept them updated on my situation.
Had no problems with the loans company either, rang them up, had to fill out yet another form and they were happy
One thing that leeds met wanted me was not to have dropped out and have had sucesfull grades in my exams coursework, which I did luckally, so you may need to bend the truth on that one, though I guess each uni is different.
im duin Physics
, coz im a fucking loonatic, dont do it ever, and i mean it. but i suppose it is the most sought after degree in the 'job' world,as well as being the best paid 
i think you should stick to it as well, and work your little testicles off..
and i quote..
''no one ever said life was easy, but it has a way of sorting things out......so fuck it''
The Bible according to St. Acton (chapter 6, page 3, paragraph 4, verse 2, hymn 3, line 5)

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| Originally posted by Acton The Bible according to St. Acton (chapter 6, page 3, paragraph 4, verse 2, hymn 3, line 5) |
I'm doing physics as well
i've found the 2nd year a lot easier than the 1st, mainly cos I now get virtually no coursework, so most of my time is 'free'. You gotta work a bit on your own, but nothing too hard, til exams get close at least, then you do. I'm sure itll be worth it after all...
Although I did hear that there are only 15,000 formal graduate jobs on offer, but nearly 3 times as many graduates....So stick with the decent degree
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| ''no one ever said life was easy, but it has a way of sorting things out......so fuck it'' |
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| Originally posted by zag2me My advice, forget about jobs afterwars, its bullshit, employers dont look at specific degrees, they look at you and a degree gives you an advantage over the other guy. |
it's funny because it's true....
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| Originally posted by Frase im at Coventry Uni pal |
perhaps you should have a long hard look in the mirror when you're judging whether or not to do your uni degree based on how many birds and geeks there are doing it.
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| Originally posted by Dervish And theres no maths in programming. |
3 hours a night of uni work? Oh poor you.... LAZY ******, TRY DOING MY COURSE THEN! I WORK FOR ABOUT 5 HOURS A NIGHT AFTER A 10 HOUR DAY!
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| Originally posted by *HaRRy* 3 hours a night of uni work? Oh poor you.... LAZY ******, TRY DOING MY COURSE THEN! I WORK FOR ABOUT 5 HOURS A NIGHT AFTER A 10 HOUR DAY! |
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| Originally posted by Absolut_Vodka wicked, ill be staying in liberty park next year with some coventry uni students... |
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