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ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder)

hmmm. i, lately, have been noticing myself 'slip' very often... to accompany my short turn memory loss, which has been with me ever since i was a kid (i will literally forget what it is i'm doing and remember at least 4 times a day, for instance, i launch a browser to search for something in google and forget what it was i wanted to search as it loads up) and my very severe time management and procrastination issues (although i think these are based a lot more on laziness than anything else) lately, i have been spacing out and daydreaming a lot. especially when i'm trying to concentrate on something that is of absolutely of no interest to me.

lately more than ever, i will space out in class, whilst teachers are mid-explanation, or when trying to read absolutely boring texts. let it be understood; i'm not someone who believes studies are a waste of time, it's just that most of the stuff i'm being taught lately is very uninteresting to me.

furthermore, i have no problems whatsoever in areas of life that i do enjoy, ie. music. i never forget a trackname, for instance, and i can memorize information having to do with music easily. so much, however, that it seems to invade me when i'm trying to concentrate.

i also read that people with ADD or ADHD "spill over" in order to concentrate. this means, as far as i know, when you do things to calm your nerves, such as tap your feet, drum your fingers, scratch, move around, etc. i find myself doing this A LOT at school.

yet, i had never considered me having ADD/ADHD because, well, it had never been so blatant as it is lately, and it normally completely stops as soon as i get out of school. ie. if i actually do sit at my desk, get my notebook out and start my homework, i will finish it, and rarely get distracted. once i'm set to it, theres no real problem. when i'm at a club, or at a friend's place, or listening to music, i'm normally real real calm (unless dancing, of course) and not at all shifty as i am when i'm at school.

so... even if i did suffer of ADD, i wouldn't know myself. so what i'm asking, HOW can i tell if i do? should i be worried about this?

i've already done some research on it, and a lot of the "symptoms" seem to be similar to some things i go through. any information anyone can give me? thanks beforehand.

discuss.

well, u did sit down and write that whole thing....

I'm an albatross!

wait till high level college classes that youre interested in happen. Youre just in bullshit now. ADD isnt a disease its an excuse for a shitty educational system.

It seems like you're just like everybody else inertia. With that said, there are several "cosmetic mind enhancing pharmaeucuticals" out there. Although, at first just try to organize things in your life. Get your priorities and agenda worked out exactly how you feel or think they should be. A schedule, calendar or a PDA might help.

-Dave

get some riddlein like the boys did in south park

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Originally posted by Orbax wait till high level college classes that youre interested in happen. Youre just in bullshit now. ADD isnt a disease its an excuse for a shitty educational system.

thank god someone out there thinks the same way as me
i got similar problems
i'm quite the night owl and usually resist getting up any time before noon
however this term, monday wednesday friday i have a psychology class at 905, but with a fuckin sweet prof. interesting and interactive lecture even in a 350 person lecture hall. no problems paying attention whatsoever

normally, i'd agree with you Orbax, and i think i still do. what did catch my attention, however, is my quite severe memory loss "episodes". i'll catch up to myself in no time as soon as i got something to hold back onto, but reading as people with ADD suffer from this, well, it just caught me.

if i do have it, i'm pretty sure it's to a very small degree, but i'm just curious (and a bit... frightened, for lack of a better word).

however, i have found not all 'people with ADD' are just bullshitting. for instance, adult ADD is the new craze, but there probably are a couple of them with a geniune problem.

i know organizing my life would help in many aspects, hell, when i used to be organized, i was a straight A student and all that jazz, but i've proved that even though i'm B average, i can manage A's without much toruble and 're-organization' either. but that's not it. it's the losing track of time for large periods (sometimes) and the memory loss that have brought me to question this.

keep it comin'.

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Originally posted by Orbax wait till high level college classes that youre interested in happen. Youre just in bullshit now. ADD isnt a disease its an excuse for a shitty educational system.

+1

Back when we were younger, there was no such thing as ADHD. If you didn't pay attention, you got disciplined until you did. Parents now are too lazy to properly raise and account for their childrens behaviour and too afraid to even think of disciplining them because that's, *cough*, 'bad parenting', so they just try and deal with it by slipping their kids some pills.

both my little brother and my older sister used to be on ritalin...personally i think it's just bullshit too. and now they have "adult ADD"...what a crock...it's just people need an excuse to be unproductive. i mean shit...i have a lot of problems focusing sometimes too, especially with TA around hahaha , but that doesn't mean i need drugs to cure some chemical imbalance...it just means i'm a procrastinating bastard...

There's no such thing man, it's just a scam to get you hooked on drugs.

Plenty of people have trouble concentrating on shit that isn't interesting to them. That's not a disease, it's being normal. You either overcome it with good old-fashioned self-discipline or you don't.

that's right, plus that's not really what ADD/ADHD is. those are 'symptoms', yes, but ADD is really seeking an optimal level of stimulation from the environment. normally we don't fulfill that in class or sitting around or reading, so we do tap our feet or use our pencils as drumsticks. but that's just it. i'm sure you don't poke people or get up and run around or start yelling to someone beside you to entertain you in the middle of an answer. you're alright. just trick yourself into focusing. i think what you lack is interest.

ADD IS real. It is considered a learning disability, and is horribly misdiagnosed for parents looking for a quick fix. It takes 6 months to a year of testing to determine if a person has ADD. What causes it is lack of glucose entering the activation reticulum in the brain. There are 3 kinds of ADD, inattention, hyperactivity, and uhh, the other one I can't remember. I have ADHD. I NEVER took ritalin, my parents wouldn't hear of it. They gave me a book and said "figure it out". I learned to deal with it, and to be honest, I consider myself lucky I have it. I think faster than most people and can multitask like a mofo, my doctors thought it was part of the reason I was so smart. I wrote a paper on this subject in my first year of college. I got an A.

I sometimes wonder if I have a form of ADD, but I don't really know. Either way, it's something that can be worked out naturally. Taking drugs for every malady one has isn't the answer.

Whether it exists or not, whether you have it or not, doesn't really matter so long as you think you have it or at least present some symptons. I summarized a couple of tips (from well-researched professional book: A Comprehensive Guide to Attention Deficit Disorder in Adults: Research, Diagnosis, and Treatment, Kathleen Nadeau) for someone some years ago, but I'll pass them along beacause you or someone else may find them useful.

TIPS

General

� Develop good habits through constant practice; have rituals.
� Make deadlines.
� Learn how to set and carry out goals.
� Manage time effectively.
� Prioritize.
� Avoid procrastination.
� Exercise.
� Live alone or live in a space to allow for periodic isolation.
� Work in a private office
� Take a break from necessary but boring activities.
� Intersperse low-interest activities with high-interest activities.
� Create challenges to increase interest and motivation.
� Learn and constantly apply problem-solving techniques.


Self Recognition and Control

� Begin each day thinking about what your plans are for that day.
� Recognize when one being distracted or procrastinating.
� Routinely question the appropriateness of your activities. (e.g. �Should I be doing this now or is something else more important?�)
� Handle documents/items once. Do not put them into a �To Do� file. Similarly, do not get �I�ll decide later if I will throw it away� mentality. Take care of it once.
� Schedule �down time�; do something that is pleasurable.
� Have positive addictions like exercise.
� Recognize when you are hyperfocusing or going off into tangents.

The Social Environment

� Learn social rules.
� Improve your ability to read body language and demonstrate your own body language.
� Learn how listen.
� Improve your conversation skills.
� Pay attention to other people.
� Avoid premature closure in conversation; cutting off comments, interrupting.
� Keep in touch with those people that have positive impact on your life and lose tough with those that don�t.
� Make an effort to schedule time for socializing or just letting off steam.


Visual Aids

� Keep an appointment calendar
� Block out time in schedules for priority tasks.
� Block out time in schedule to reflect on the day�s tasks and gather one�s thoughts.
� Break long tasks into small units.
� Build mini-rewards into projects.
� Make and use lists.
� Keep a pen/pencil and paper near you at all times to write down thoughts when they occur to you.
� Post visual reminders in strategic locations. (e.g. On a T.V. or other distractions.)
� Use color/design codes for organizing files/

For the Student

� Allow yourself activity while listening or memorizing.
� Distributing practices sessions: taking frequent breaks.
� Active learning; repeating material heard or read, restating in own words.
� Building incentives for concentration.
� Avoid situations of over-stimulation or under-stimulation.
� Choose a career path of high intrinsic interest.

AD/HD is a neurobiological condition that results from a chemical imbalance or deficiency in the brain. You may think you have AD/HD but in fact it is common amongst younger people to feel like this, where if you have AD/HD your traits will be extreme. If you really feel you have AD/HD then go and see your doctor, don't let ignorant people tell you otherwise.

I think ADD was invented by the high powered guys behind the pharmecutical companies to make us spend more of our money on stuff we dont need.

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Originally posted by ZzZ The Goddess I think ADD was invented by the high powered guys behind the pharmecutical companies to make us spend more of our money on stuff we dont need.

You're right.

The concept of a neurochemical imbalance itself is a fraud: there exists no thorough and accurate way to measure the chemical status of a living person's brain. Furthermore every attempt to die a "mental illness" to any chemical abnormality has ended as a failure.

No ADD/ADHD study has ever demonstrated ANY type of physical or chemical abnormality in ADD-diagnosed subjects other than abnormalities known or suspected to be caused by ADD treatments those same test subjects were taking.

In fact, there is no scientific evidence that ADD is a disease or disorder of any kind, while there is a wealth of evidence that every symptom of ADD can result from environmental problems.

The worst thing someone experiencing these types of problems could possibly do is allow themselves to fall into the victim-ideology of ADD as a disease - something which is afflicting them and something they have no control over. It only serves to reinforce their lack of self-control and their inability to solve their problems properly.

ADD is a work of fiction and anyone who is duped by it is a fool.

Don't be one.

its kind of like saying that depression is real due to a seratonin imbalance in your brain. So they give you a drug that fixes that.

What they arent taking into consideration is that you hate your pudgy blobby body, no girlfriend, no friends, bad job, poor ass life and are depressed because of that. Maybe if they got off their wallowing-in-self-pity ass and applied to a few different jobs, actually talked to that girl they think is so hot, and tried buyin some people drinks at the local pub, and went on a run occasionally theyd feel better?

Now some people DO suffer from a bad brain. Most people just need to get their ass in gear.

I know a woman whos kid just attacked 2 teachers in middle school. shes an iffy acquaintance of the family. That fucking kid even tried getting on my motorcycle once, and when we had a trailer hooked up to our truck on a HILL he fucking disconnected it and the fuckin thing almost broke the metal stand and rolled into our other car.

I grabbed the little fuck, lifted him off the ground and swore to fuck at him and told him im not his mom and i dont think hes funny or cute and if he ever touches my shit again im gonna splatter his fuckin head all over the pavement. Then gave him a good rough shove.

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he has ADD. But weirdly enough he remembered to never come within 10 meters of my shit again. Most of these kids need a good ass kicking instead of the namby-pamby liberal bitchsquad parents that came out of the 70s. I need to start a camp. I guarantee I could FIX these fuckin kids in 2 weeks. Hell, ill even do it for free.

Well I think ADD is caused by a combination of factors. If we look...at..

wait hold on man I saw this really cool movie last night

Oh what did u ask?

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