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Posted by Blue. on Feb-05-2005 22:10:

Brand spanking new computer

1 Gig of ram, 3Ghz processor, etc.

Awesome fast except for gaming for some reason. It came with an Intel graphics card, 82915G and I assumed it would be shit, although it was apparantly an upgrade from a radeon 8500 and I was told it was better (of course I knew he just wanted to make the sale).

So when I run something like Doom 3 it goes really slowely, even in the lowest settings. The menus and whatnot all load blazing fast, the opening videos and whatnot went fine but when the game starts anytime there's movement on the screen it goes extremely slow.

To make sure it wasn't just the game I tried Worms 3D and I run into the same slowdown problem during game play.

So what's the problem? Should I just format and do a clean install instead of having the shit they put on here? Should I update my drivers? I just got the damn thing yesterday

Posted by Yan on Feb-05-2005 22:20:

Should have made a custom computer.

Change the video settings in the games. Don't run under maximum resolution, anti-aliasing, antistropic filtering, etc...

Posted by Blue. on Feb-05-2005 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Yan
Should have made a custom computer.

Change the video settings in the games. Don't run under maximum resolution, anti-aliasing, antistropic filtering, etc...

"it goes really slowely, even in the lowest settings"

Posted by Yan on Feb-05-2005 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by trance_n_dance
"it goes really slowely, even in the lowest settings"

Load up the game(s) and read off the settings for me.

Posted by Blue. on Feb-05-2005 22:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Yan
Load up the game(s) and read off the settings for me.

All I know is that I set the setting to low quality and it changed all the video settings for me.

I just updated my video drivers and whatnot as well as making sure I had the latest version of Direct X and I saw mild improvement.

Posted by Yan on Feb-05-2005 22:58:

quote:
Originally posted by trance_n_dance
All I know is that I set the setting to low quality and it changed all the video settings for me.

I just updated my video drivers and whatnot as well as making sure I had the latest version of Direct X and I saw mild improvement.

Hmm. Can't help you there then.

Call support and ask.

Posted by Azz3D on Feb-05-2005 23:54:

on board graphics cards tend to "suck"
do yourself a favor, buy an AGP card (radeon 9600pro seems to be the best bang for the buck, it's around $125-135 or so)

Posted by Blue. on Feb-06-2005 00:08:

Question, would you think that formatting the computer and installing windows again might make it work? I mean it's a new computer but maybe it's something pre-installed.

Also, my video card appears to use open GL, would that mean that it can't use direct 3d and that might be the problem right there?

Posted by Trypt0mine on Feb-06-2005 00:17:

i recommend you get an nvidia 6600gt AGP it should run you around $220 and you wont regret it

Posted by KilldaDJ on Feb-06-2005 01:57:

format it and find out.

if u dont post, then we'll assume that it didnt work

Posted by Blue. on Feb-06-2005 02:50:

It was supposed to come with a Radeon 8000 I think but this Intel card was apparantly an "upgrade" and I was told it performs better.

I'm going to bring the computer back and make him give me the ATI card instead seeing as it'll likely be better than this thing. I'm bringing my Radeon 8500 over from my computer onto this one though and I'll see how that goes .

Posted by Yan on Feb-06-2005 02:57:

quote:
Originally posted by trance_n_dance
It was supposed to come with a Radeon 8000 I think but this Intel card was apparantly an "upgrade" and I was told it performs better.

I'm going to bring the computer back and make him give me the ATI card instead seeing as it'll likely be better than this thing. I'm bringing my Radeon 8500 over from my computer onto this one though and I'll see how that goes .

I suggest returning the entire computer and then building your own computer. You'll spend less money and you'll have a better computer then most out there.

Posted by Magnus on Feb-06-2005 03:42:

Its the onboard video that is killing you man. Your system is fine. Go out and buy a nice video card, an Nvidia 6800 or even one of the cheaper Geforce FX series cards and you'll see a big difference. ATI cards are good too, the XT800 is pretty nice. One thing that would be helpful, particularly to me, is your 3DMark score. I have the same setup as you, 1GB Ram, 3Ghz CPU. Running the very newest 3DMark, I get a little over 1000 for a score. Running the older 2003 version, which is what I suggest you run, I get about a 6700 score. Run that and let me know what you get. With that onboard video, I bet you'll only get something in the 1,000-2,000 range.

Posted by Blue. on Feb-06-2005 07:01:

Out of the video cards on this page which one would be a good card? prefferably one thats about 50 or 60 bucks

http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog...st.php?cat=VIDE

Posted by Xtracktor on Feb-06-2005 13:15:

quote:
Originally posted by trance_n_dance
Out of the video cards on this page which one would be a good card? prefferably one thats about 50 or 60 bucks

http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog...st.php?cat=VIDE

For doom 3...none of those cards in the page will be any good . As Magnus mentioned download the 3dmark01SE or 03 and see what your scores are. The links are here:

3dmark01SE

3dmark03

Try also a reformat because worms should run well, I had a friend with a sound driver conflict that really slowed him down. Try the 3dmark01SE and post your score.

Posted by yujie__ on Feb-06-2005 18:04:

umm.. you have a card that is 2-3 generatoins behind in term of graphic power. So its sort of an downgrade if u upgraded from onboard agp in todays standard. I think you got rip off if u got the 8500 for alot in upgrading it from onboard agp. better to build your own than to buy retail unless u goto specialty shops like alienware, falcon nw, dell, and

whats teh specs?

Posted by stren on Feb-06-2005 21:04:

I just got Radeon 9550 Extreme 128 mb and all the games speeded up really significantly

Posted by Blue. on Feb-06-2005 22:21:

3DMark03 score was 776

It ran fairly well during the flying game and ran incredibly slow during the nature one.

Posted by Xtracktor on Feb-06-2005 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by trance_n_dance
3DMark03 score was 776

It ran fairly well during the flying game and ran incredibly slow during the nature one.

That sounds about right, even better than I expected from an onboard video. Checkout this link: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3657102

thats the score of someone with a P4 3Ghz and a radeon 9200, 641 total score! I would try a clean reformat and make sure there are no conflicts in the hardware. What kind of sound card/onboard do you have?

Posted by Blue. on Feb-06-2005 22:44:

O.K now, tomorrow I'm going to be looking for a video card and my price range is probably going to be up to about 150 bucks, my selection are the cards from this website http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog...st.php?cat=VIDE

So what would be my best bet then?

I have a computer with an integrated video card so can I disable it?

Posted by Blue. on Feb-06-2005 23:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Xtracktor
What kind of sound card/onboard do you have?

It's a tad confusing but it's a pretty basic one, I'm seeing Realtek HD audio as well as Legacy audio

Posted by Xtracktor on Feb-06-2005 23:07:

quote:
Originally posted by trance_n_dance
O.K now, tomorrow I'm going to be looking for a video card and my price range is probably going to be up to about 150 bucks, my selection are the cards from this website http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog...st.php?cat=VIDE

So what would be my best bet then?

I have a computer with an integrated video card so can I disable it?

First of all, make sure you computer has an AGP slot, you did mention its fairly new...so it is possible it has PCI-E but highly unlikely. If you checked already, disregard this part.

The one boxed in white is the AGP slot and the one boxed in blue is pci.

Make sure you have an AGP slot, now as for that site, I personally would not buy from that site because of the selection. Dammit if only newegg did international shipping, at the moment I cant find anything, but I know for sure a 9600 pro would be in your pricerange, keep an eye out for it.

Posted by Blue. on Feb-06-2005 23:12:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Xtracktor
First of all, make sure you computer has an AGP slot, you did mention its fairly new...so it is possible it has PCI-E but highly unlikely. If you checked already, disregard this part.

The one boxed in white is the AGP slot and the one boxed in blue is pci.

Make sure you have an AGP slot, now as for that site, I personally would not buy from that site because of the selection. Dammit if only newegg did international shipping, at the moment I cant find anything, but I know for sure a 9600 pro would be in your pricerange, keep an eye out for it.

I'm just impatient and tomorrow I want to buy a new card and I need some reccomendations for my 200 dollar price range.

Posted by yujie__ on Feb-06-2005 23:16:

thats a low score for 3dmark03, check out what i got even tho i havent benchmark in a longtime

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1663881

for a card around 200 get a 6600gt or 9800pro/xt or x700 pro or alittle higher get a x800xl

Posted by Xtracktor on Feb-07-2005 02:49:

quote:
Originally posted by yujie__
thats a low score for 3dmark03, check out what i got even tho i havent benchmark in a longtime

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1663881

for a card around 200 get a 6600gt or 9800pro/xt or x700 pro or alittle higher get a x800xl

It is a low score, but for his onboard I would say its higher than it should be...well over the radeon 8500 thats for sure. I agree, for around 200 you could get all those fine cards....just not in canada (At least from what I searched)

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