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Posted by Millsyy2k on Feb-07-2005 10:43:

Important - Defend your rights and stop big brother.

Please follow the link and sign up for this petition. If we let them ban magic mushrooms in the UK we open the flood gates for them to create all sorts of other suffocating bills. Magic Mushrooms are harmless with no documented reports of poisoning in the UK so they are purely trying to ban them to stop people having fun at the expense of losing taxes and other government revenue.

http://www.petitiononline.com/DBPF/petition.html


Stay safe

Millsy


Posted by Ste on Feb-07-2005 10:45:

nice one.


Posted by mentalbarter on Feb-07-2005 11:31:

this aint about BB on channel 4 i see


Posted by Psy-T on Feb-07-2005 12:08:

holy crap, i didnt know they were legal there to begin with!
that would have been such a great bonus to moving to england
i hope my signature made a diffrence and that psilocybin will stay legal


Posted by Spad on Feb-07-2005 12:22:

I really don't think these petitions make any difference.

Besides it's hardly difficult to get hold of illegal drugs is it?


Posted by Psy-T on Feb-07-2005 12:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Spad
I really don't think these petitions make any difference.

Besides it's hardly difficult to get hold of illegal drugs is it?


as i see it, illegel drugs lead to black market which means overpricing and the risk of not knowing what you're actually taking. (like with lsd, where they shove all kinds of fucked up chemicals, and dont produce it well on general.)
:/


Posted by Cru54d3r on Feb-07-2005 14:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Spad
I really don't think these petitions make any difference.

Besides it's hardly difficult to get hold of illegal drugs is it?

exactly .. if anything it will just serve as a list of likely illegal mushroom consumers

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
(like with lsd, where they shove all kinds of fucked up chemicals, and dont produce it well on general.)
:/

What? do u actually know what your talking about? lsd on blotter is pretty damn hard to "shove all kinds of fucked up chemicals" on since the blotters are so small they can only take up a few micrograms of the chemical and so few are active in that range anyhow ..


Posted by KilldaDJ on Feb-07-2005 14:56:

weed is safe, nobody has died of a weed overdose...ever

dunno why thats illegal, i like it LOL


Posted by Millsyy2k on Feb-07-2005 15:14:

It doesnt matter what country your from stick your name down. Remember the petition isn't really just about stopping one bill, its about using what little democracy we really have to try to stop the fat ******s at the top from doing whatever they please and controlling our lives because they say so without any good reasoning behind it. If you dont believe the petition will work i'll wager you've got no evidence or past experiences with petitions (the same as me) it takes a few seconds so give it a whirl and lets see the outcome. At least you'll be able to say in the future "those petitions don't work i remember back in the day our community clubbed together to save magic mushrooms blah blah blah.

I'm just working on a petition to get every polititian to take a compulsory E (strong one) and go clubbing. Would they still try and close our clubs down???


Posted by Fresh Prince on Feb-07-2005 17:06:

quote:
Originally posted by KilldaDJ
weed is safe, nobody has died of a weed overdose...ever

dunno why thats illegal, i like it LOL


I read this article in Mixmag stating otherwise


Posted by Psy-T on Feb-07-2005 17:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Cru54d3r
What? do u actually know what your talking about? lsd on blotter is pretty damn hard to "shove all kinds of fucked up chemicals" on since the blotters are so small they can only take up a few micrograms of the chemical and so few are active in that range anyhow ..


im not blaming the dealers, im blaming the producers, the people who pay them to produce it dont pay them enough,, its near impossible to make acid the way hoffman made it...
obviously you can shove shit on the blotter


Posted by dj_cuba on Feb-07-2005 17:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Spad
I really don't think these petitions make any difference.

Besides it's hardly difficult to get hold of illegal drugs is it?


Isn't it? The only illegal drug I know how to get is ecstacy by asking around in clubs


Posted by Ste on Feb-07-2005 17:52:

the fact its legal makes it great, because you can have the fun without any of the worry - and they last ages.

and besides, when u buy fresh mushroom you know your getting fresh mushrooms, not dried mushroosm crushed up with leaves and rat poison.


Posted by Cru54d3r on Feb-07-2005 19:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
im not blaming the dealers, im blaming the producers, the people who pay them to produce it dont pay them enough,, its near impossible to make acid the way hoffman made it...
obviously you can shove shit on the blotter

such as? back up your statements here .. ill agree that blotters clearly aint as strong as they used to be .. but that doesnt mean there is shit on/in them ..


Posted by DJ Vale on Feb-09-2005 12:01:

quote:
Originally posted by KilldaDJ
weed is safe, nobody has died of a weed overdose...ever

dunno why thats illegal, i like it LOL


Read the mixmag young padawan!

There was also an article in a paper (probably a tabloid) about a guy who smoked well into double figures of dooby's a everyday for 20 years, he died at the age of 30 something.


Posted by Daniel_O on Feb-11-2005 04:49:

Yeah its fair enough-each to their own etc, but personally i've had a really bad experience on mushrooms and know someone who had a bad time with x too. It worries me that someone like my brother could go into a shop and buy a bag of mushrooms, and i'm pretty sure they could put him in a state of mind he couldn't handle. I used to think it should be up to the end user if they want to take various chemicals, but there are too many people who aren't wise enough to make these decisions for themselves...


Posted by Ste on Feb-11-2005 08:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Daniel_O
Yeah its fair enough-each to their own etc, but personally i've had a really bad experience on mushrooms and know someone who had a bad time with x too. It worries me that someone like my brother could go into a shop and buy a bag of mushrooms, and i'm pretty sure they could put him in a state of mind he couldn't handle. I used to think it should be up to the end user if they want to take various chemicals, but there are too many people who aren't wise enough to make these decisions for themselves...


this is true BUT it is annoying that this should spoil it for everyone else who is careful, think with mushrooms you can have a really bad experience but you wouldnt die or have any lasting damage, you would just probably never take mushrooms again.


Posted by tu_face on Feb-11-2005 10:42:

Re: Important - Defend your rights and stop big brother.

quote:
Originally posted by Millsyy2k
Magic Mushrooms are harmless


i don't agree with making mushrooms illegal, but that my friend is an out and out lie.


Posted by Millsyy2k on Feb-11-2005 12:05:

Re: Re: Important - Defend your rights and stop big brother.

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
i don't agree with making mushrooms illegal, but that my friend is an out and out lie.



Out and Out lie..... NO!! I take your point that it was quite a broad statement but physically they are harmless. Psycologically i would agree they could cause you damage, possibly long term. The point is that if you take a sensible dose no physical harm will come to you unless you are allergic to them but that could be said about every consumer product released on the planet. There will always be the minority who will have adverse mental conditions and in extreme cases the mushrooms might push them over the edge but if people take a sensible first does and build up from there the chances are practically non existent. If the shrooms are made illegal again then the only option for consumers will be to go back and pick them fresh which opens up the door to picking poisonous fungi.

Millsy


Posted by Millsyy2k on Feb-11-2005 12:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Daniel_O
Yeah its fair enough-each to their own etc, but personally i've had a really bad experience on mushrooms and know someone who had a bad time with x too. It worries me that someone like my brother could go into a shop and buy a bag of mushrooms, and i'm pretty sure they could put him in a state of mind he couldn't handle. I used to think it should be up to the end user if they want to take various chemicals, but there are too many people who aren't wise enough to make these decisions for themselves...



I personally think it should be left to the end user to educate themselves before they take any kind of drug. I'm with Stu why ruin it for those who take the five minutes it requires to ask a friend or search the internet. I wouldnt take anything that i didn't know what it was or what it would do to me, its plain stupidity. Surely your brother wouldn't do such a thing, you have told him your point of view haven't you......


Posted by Ste on Feb-11-2005 12:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Millsyy2k
Stu




thats a bannable offence i think....


Posted by Millsyy2k on Feb-11-2005 12:38:

Sorry mate i realised as soon as i hit the submit reply button. please accept my humble apologies and a bag of Hawiian Psylocybe


Posted by Cru54d3r on Feb-11-2005 13:01:

I also agree with Stu .. i mean in america people try to get high/trip off dxm content in cough medecine .. granted people dont have to be that desperate over here when we have magic mushrooms available over the counter .. but dxm too could put people into a state of mind they couldnt handle and who is to stop a kid from buying cough medecine (might even be some in the house) ..


Posted by sleepydragon on Feb-11-2005 13:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Daniel_O
I used to think it should be up to the end user if they want to take various chemicals, but there are too many people who aren't wise enough to make these decisions for themselves...


and do u think making them illegal will make any difference? people take stuff out of choice not cose there legal the same people will still take them even if there made illegal.
They r legal now but its not like there in your face and theres pressure to try them everyone makes a concious decision about what there doing long before they actually do it.

oh and i also agree with what stu said


Posted by Millsyy2k on Feb-11-2005 14:03:

Sorry stu i've started them off.........


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