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Posted by Coup on Feb-09-2005 23:14:

England vs. Holland

pants. utter pants.

Posted by AndskiSpeed on Feb-09-2005 23:34:

I went the sugarmill, I assume England were shit as usual

Posted by Coup on Feb-09-2005 23:52:

Sven played a 4-3-3 with rooney on the left and wright-phillips on the right, with the pair switching flanks literally every 5 mins. gary neville and cole supplied most of our width, and when cole struggled with hollands right winger who was mint, he had rooney for backup.

later on downing came on for half an hour, while andy johnson came on and played a deep defending midfield position / right winger crossing balls for owen.

total sham, made no sense at all.

Posted by Jake Conlon on Feb-10-2005 00:02:

Shaun Wright-Phillips was shit.

Why does sven still play Owen "No Fucking Hope" Hargreaves

and do i even need to mention Beckham

Posted by Coup on Feb-10-2005 00:07:

i thought beckham was alot more mature than hes been for england recently. although he didnt shine, but neither did anyone else.

it was a lackluster performance from everyone. Wes and Jamie did well. Gerrard was ok. about it. Maybe too much pressure was on SWP to be amazing.

Posted by Dj_Day-V on Feb-10-2005 02:16:

Argg, we missed Robben & V Nistelrooy :P

Posted by sykadelik on Feb-10-2005 07:37:

Wright Phillips is not shit. He is a right footed winger who should be played on the left. The result of this were his two chances that he scuffed, had a half decent left footed winger been there instead that would have been 2-0.

Sven was off his tits last night, I have never seen so many people out of position in one match. Absolutely ludicrous!

Posted by Ste on Feb-10-2005 09:25:

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Originally posted by sykadelik
Wright Phillips is not shit. He is a right footed winger who should be played on the left. The result of this were his two chances that he scuffed, had a half decent left footed winger been there instead that would have been 2-0.

Sven was off his tits last night, I have never seen so many people out of position in one match. Absolutely ludicrous!

aye, why the fuck play downing in a left forward role with andy johnson on the right. downing is a proper winger not an attacking mid like shaun wright phillips and AJ is a centre forward.

what is the point in blooding new players and playing them out of position? utter bollocks.

Posted by gatecrasher on Feb-10-2005 11:37:

England were wank, lets face it they couldnt even beat a Dutch under-21 team.

Sven Goran Eriksson doesn't know his arse from his elbow. I still believe that if he had a bit of balls in the World Cup u wud have beat Brazil and gone on to win it, I mean lets face it his teams r boring and terrible to watch.

Posted by sleepydragon on Feb-10-2005 12:13:

england r rubbish anyway i love it how football fans always say were gonna win a trophy next time.
they will be saying that for the next 200 years and as for winning the last world cup we werent good enough simple as whats the point in asking the if and buts.

Posted by Roddy on Feb-10-2005 13:06:

Downing should have started! been class all season!
Also Ireland 1
Portugal 0

Posted by gatecrasher on Feb-10-2005 14:56:

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Originally posted by sleepydragon
and as for winning the last world cup we werent good enough simple as whats the point in asking the if and buts.

My point is that if England had not have sat back after scoring against Brazil they would have probably scored more, why sit back and let Brazil with Ronaldo, Ronaldinho etc come at you, it was obvious they wud score.

The last World Cup was England's best chance of winnin the tournament cause lets face it the 2002 World Cup was the worst in history, I would say Brazil of 2002 were the worst team ever to win the World Cup.

Posted by sleepydragon on Feb-10-2005 20:07:

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Originally posted by gatecrasher
My point is that if England had not have sat back after scoring against Brazil they would have probably scored more, why sit back and let Brazil with Ronaldo, Ronaldinho etc come at you, it was obvious they wud score.

The last World Cup was England's best chance of winnin the tournament cause lets face it the 2002 World Cup was the worst in history, I would say Brazil of 2002 were the worst team ever to win the World Cup.

cose england r stupid and thats just the way they play

and as for brazil being the worst team ever to win the world cup well that just proves why there the best team in the world they didnt play very well in all the tournament but they still managed to win nearly every game without any trouble thats the sign of a good team.

Posted by gatecrasher on Feb-10-2005 23:14:

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Originally posted by sleepydragon

and as for brazil being the worst team ever to win the world cup well that just proves why there the best team in the world they didnt play very well in all the tournament but they still managed to win nearly every game without any trouble thats the sign of a good team.

IMHO they WERE the worst team ever to win the World Cup.....how France did not win that trophy I will never know, of course it is not the best team on paper but the best team in the tournament sp yes they did deserve to win it.

Now I would say Brazil are the best, if u look at the players they have it is awesome - Kaka, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo etc etc but in 2002 I would say no.

As for not playin well in the tournament Brazil didn't have to face much kop to reach and win the trophy - the toughest team they had to face was England and we all know how rubbish they r

Posted by Ste on Feb-11-2005 08:06:

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Originally posted by Roddy
Downing should have started! been class all season!

thats what i thought, but when he got brought on he should have at least been played in his proper position!