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Just doesn't sound right?

Hi, been practicing beatmacthing for awhile now. It isn't perfect, but it is getting there. Ok, my problem seems to be actually mixing the 2 tracks. I got 2 records and beatmacthed them kind of perfectly. But when i did the mix, it just didn't sound right. It doesn't sound like the mixes tiesto and avb do. It's like the track stopepd then the other track started, not actually a mix. But i did actually mix it, but it didn't sound like it was blended nicely. Any suggestions on what i could do? Maybe i'm trying to mix too late in the first track and too early in the 2nd track?

Re: Re: Just doesn't sound right?

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Originally posted by Nou Sounds like your mixing in too late on the out going track or to early with the incoming track. Try adjusting the phrasing.

+1

are you using the crossfader or the channel faders?

alot of ppl tend to leave the cross fader alone for most if not all thier mixes - xfader is normally used when scratching

like Nou said... youre prolly off on your phrasing, its imperative that you learn your tracks well so you know when you're almost out of time otherwise you get what you described and it sounds like one track just ends and the next just kinda takes over...

if you have em matched check your EQing also... an outgoing track is really noticable if you dont fade it out somehow

if you listen to tiesto and avb mixes you'll notice how the outgoing tracks die down some as the incoming track starts up...

abrupt mixes sound horrible if you dont work it right

yeah, phrasing--something i'm having a hard time with now... oh well i'm getting there.

definately sounds like your phrase matching...here is a way i practiced phrasing better....

start mixing the incoming track immediately after the break in the outgoing track. so que the incoming..wait for the break, release the incoming on the first beat after the break of the outgoing. bring the fader up after the first set of 32 beats. then play with your eq's. only use the bass eq in the beginning until after you get the hang of it. or try it after the mini break towards the end of the outgoing track, if there is one.

i am assuming you spin trance.

wait, you're new to DJing and your mixes don't sound as good as two of the best DJs in the world? Weird.

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Originally posted by zizack wait, you're new to DJing and your mixes don't sound as good as two of the best DJs in the world? Weird.

lmao

just work on phrasing. There's much more to mixing than just beatmatching and sneaking in the song with ur faders.

Re: Just doesn't sound right?

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Originally posted by Radders2003 Ok, my problem seems to be actually mixing the 2 tracks.

Hehe, yeh i think there seems to be a problem here.

one of the most vital thing in djin is learning your darn tracks. know when a breakdown is coming, ow it sounds in the outro, does it come fast or slow, how is the incoming track setup at the start...is there a breakdown after 128 beats....



try to think of things like that. also start reading on harmonic mixing its never a bad idea to learn your scales.

also key your tracks. nothing worse than a muddy mix.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 one of the most vital thing in djin is learning your darn tracks. know when a breakdown is coming, how it sounds in the outro, does it come fast or slow, how is the incoming track setup at the start...is there a breakdown after 128 beats try to think of things like that. also start reading on harmonic mixing its never a bad idea to learn your scales.

agreed.

Heres something that helped me when i was starting out http://djforums.com/tutorials/findingthekey.php and this http://www.harmonic-mixing.com/index.mv

learn the fundamentals first, especially phrasing then the rest.Also dont try to mix like Tiesto and AvB. They have been doing it for years and you've only done mixing for a short time. I think thats also your mistake, trying to sound like another DJ. Once you get it down create your own mixing style and not like someone else

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Originally posted by Boomer187 one of the most vital thing in djin is learning your darn tracks. know when a breakdown is coming, ow it sounds in the outro, does it come fast or slow, how is the incoming track setup at the start...is there a breakdown after 128 beats.... try to think of things like that. also start reading on harmonic mixing its never a bad idea to learn your scales.

very sound advice, the first thing a dj should do after basic beatmatching is phrase matching, since i haved a musical backgroung, beats and measures come naturally, but for some its a lot harder, im always counting beats in my head, its just normal, but if ur not getting the hang of it, count out loud, it will help a lot. 16s, 32s, 64s, 128s, listen to major changes in each track and roll with them..


also watch the gains and eq, u dont wanna clip or have to much/little of a particular frequency, u gotta keep it balanced specuially trance

I've been having the same problem lately. Some transitions sound good while others don't sound mixed at all. Like I cut over from one directly to the other. I find it easier to mix in new tracks if the incoming hi and low eqs are lowered to roughly 10 o'clock. I've also started using the "gain" knob. It is alot easier for me to prevent clipping and to get certain frequencies to stand out.

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