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Posted by Lombardo on Feb-16-2005 07:50:

drumrolls

I really suck at doing drum rolls... Anyone have any pointers...

im using Reason and Sonar if that helps you help me.

xoxo

Posted by UphoricNitemare on Feb-16-2005 13:58:

Yeah, try to stay away from them...They are too cliche in my opinion.

Posted by Lombardo on Feb-16-2005 15:53:

quote:
Originally posted by UphoricNitemare
Yeah, try to stay away from them...They are too cliche in my opinion.

not even little ones?

Posted by UphoricNitemare on Feb-16-2005 16:03:

I think drumrolls sound okay in really cheesy trance songs, but other than that i think people should find more creative ways to get to that point.

Not even little ones.

Posted by Dj Empty on Feb-16-2005 17:02:

So are drumsrolls difficult to make in reason or is it just cheesey as hell to use them????

Posted by Dj Yoel Culiner on Feb-16-2005 18:53:

Usually drumrolls really are ciche but in some porticular situations they are awesom, as a matter of fact Maor (Perry) here from TA sometimes uses drumrolls and they sound very good.

It's just a way of useing them.

Good luck baby

Posted by UphoricNitemare on Feb-16-2005 19:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Yoel Culiner

Good luck baby

Very witty

Posted by Lombardo on Feb-16-2005 20:11:

well people I appreciate the comments... Im still alittle confused but Ill work it out!!!

Posted by jacheatamobits on Feb-16-2005 20:20:

there are so many other ways to build tension in a build up.

using snares is just one.

i find that this is the most important part of a prog. track, and if it sounds even a little cheesy, i start over and use some other sound.

Posted by Axolotyl on Feb-17-2005 00:46:

C'mon, someone must have some tips... I'd be interested in hearing any too. Plenty of good tracks use drumrolls and they're not always cheesy. Infact, the kick drumroll accompanied by that big 'down' sound seems to be quite in fashion at the moment...

Posted by superddman on Feb-17-2005 02:11:

To be original and make them sound interesting, use a combination of fx like reverbs,flangers, and delay. Plus, do lots of automations. You will be amazed what you will come up with. I think drum rolls are essentials in some instances but they have to be used wisely.

Posted by superddman on Feb-17-2005 02:15:

Also wanted to add that you should not stick to some common pattern. Try to change the notes as the drum roll speeds up. In addition, you should usually layer the drum roll with some other progressin sounds, for example wooshe or a break beat kick. Layering things together will make the transitions sound more complex and entertaining. And most of all, experiment.

Posted by Lombardo on Feb-17-2005 03:26:

thats what Im talking about. Thanks for the imput... Drumrolls are not all bad. Its how you work it out.

I still don't have a clue how to do it. It is pretty easy in Reason to line a snare roll up on the redrum and run the pattern. THat is cheesy I agree. but how do you get it to do other things like have that filtered sub kick effect.

Posted by josh on Feb-17-2005 03:30:

well, you can dun just put S (Snare)
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

You can try playing ard like different variatin of drum rolls/ snare..

Cheers. It meant to play ard...

Good luck.