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Posted by SkyHigh on Feb-18-2005 02:46:

Do u wish u still did drugs???

I used to do a lot of stuff!! But i quit a few years ago ..
Now a got a wif and a kid ..But still once in a while I get a craving for a good e-pill,or acid ,shrooms ,K, anything that will get me there. Any1 else get that??


Posted by 5hiftn6ears on Feb-18-2005 02:48:

just the music dude....

...ok maybe the odd pill


Posted by angelgirl on Feb-18-2005 03:14:

Ah yes...the time in ones life when you realize it isn't possible anymore to just forget all that you are responsible for as an adult and escape to the happy land of chemicals.

Sometimes I do miss the young carefree days but the music is what I love and what keeps me on the dancefloor at 32. And I tell ya at 32 the phrase "what comes up must come down" is very much skewed towards the "come down" ...and the adult world of work just doesn't have room for me on a sketchy Tuesday.

Other than the fact that they allowed me to stay awake and on my feet much longer I don't really miss them. I may not be able to last until 8 or 10 am or NOON anymore but that just means I have to make the 5 or 6 hours that I do get on the dancefloor really count.


Posted by SkyHigh on Feb-18-2005 03:17:

But dont you ever get that craving ,for something??
I GET once every 2 months or so..AND its a big big big craving,i so far have resisted ,but damn its hard


Posted by dallastar on Feb-18-2005 03:17:

Re: Do u wish u still did drugs???

quote:
Originally posted by SkyHigh
I used to do a lot of stuff!! But i quit a few years ago ..
Now a got a wif and a kid ..But still once in a while I get a craving for a good e-pill,or acid ,shrooms ,K, anything that will get me there. Any1 else get that??


I suppose I get those types of craving, but not for long b/c I usually full fill it by tokin'! but no e or acid for me! schrooms or kitty maybe be nice here and there - but not all the time -

I did have one of those craving's the other day! I drank about 3 beers and it went away!

MMmmmmmmmmmmmmm........beer!


Posted by monishb on Feb-18-2005 03:48:

nah, i quit 2 yrs ago, dont do them anymore, just alchohol for me, which i dont drink much since the last 6 months since i havent been a frequent.

a few cigs if i drink thats abt it.


Posted by dallastar on Feb-18-2005 03:50:

quote:
Originally posted by maxtuh
nah, i quit 2 yrs ago, dont do them anymore, just alchohol for me, which i dont drink much since the last 6 months since i havent been a frequent.

a few cigs if i drink thats about it.


it seems you are always smokin' MY cigs when you are drunk

& I bet you quit drinkin' so much since you got your new car! I would hoep you wouldn't drink and drive!


Posted by DigiNut on Feb-18-2005 03:56:

Who needs drugs? Music is my drug. That and crack.


Posted by Chris Allen on Feb-18-2005 04:01:

I don't need drugs to have a good time. At all. For anything.


Posted by charmscars on Feb-18-2005 04:18:

i love to let my mind wander and think about how much fun and how i used to let go when i used to party.. but then i think about the come down..,. the thought of sketching out makes me want to gag. so as much as i miss those times.. i don't miss feeling like a train hit me the next day.. who knows? maybe i will dose again.. i don't rule it out, but for now.. i'm happy with teh way things are


Posted by Jayx1 on Feb-18-2005 04:26:

singing along "drugs drugs drugs... all are good, none are bad..... drugs drugs drugs... get some from your mom and some from your dad"


Posted by Transmotion on Feb-18-2005 04:50:

since i was rushed last time on Ambulance to the Hospital after a good joint,i don't smoke anymore... just E


Posted by DigiNut on Feb-18-2005 05:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Transmotion
since i was rushed last time on Ambulance to the Hospital after a good joint,i don't smoke anymore... just E

Ouch, and I thought *I* reacted badly to weed...


Posted by arek on Feb-18-2005 05:05:

quote:
Originally posted by SkyHigh
But dont you ever get that craving ,for something??
I GET once every 2 months or so..AND its a big big big craving,i so far have resisted ,but damn its hard


#1 you have a wife and a kid.

you can be craving but fuck, be responsible.

think of your kid and if you would like to see your own father high off on e, coke whatever at that age.

don't be selfish and stop trying to relive anything other than the love for your child.

and for whomever ended up in a hospital from smokin a J, how the fuck?


Posted by raveed on Feb-18-2005 05:13:

quote:
Originally posted by charmscars
the thought of sketching out makes me want to gag. so as much as i miss those times.. i don't miss feeling like a train hit me the next day..


5htp ne1????


Posted by dance2dabeat on Feb-18-2005 05:36:

I think everyone has felt the same way at one point or another...and well the first time getting high...WOW unbeleivably amazing.....

But at this point in my life I love the music so much..the ppl..the vibe....I get high just being surrounded by all of it. D49....the whole time I felt so amazing high...yet 100% sober.

Dancing makes me feel high..especailly when I am totally in a zone..such an amazing feeling. I don't regret what I have done...everything happens for a reason. Experimenting is what got me here today.

It's made me the DJ Whore I am today!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by tranceinurpants on Feb-18-2005 05:43:

Right on fellas, I used to rock the gonge like everyday, never really got into much else, just fooled around w/ speed for a bit. I realized that I can't function properly by screwing w/ myself like that, so now I only drink beer. When I go to see a DJ I stay sober so I can enjoy the whole set and not miss a thing.


Posted by arek on Feb-18-2005 05:46:

i mix my drugs with alcohol and i love it.
i feel so totally fucked up that up is down and left is right.


Posted by monishb on Feb-18-2005 06:19:

quote:
Originally posted by dallastar
it seems you are always smokin' MY cigs when you are drunk

& I bet you quit drinkin' so much since you got your new car! I would hoep you wouldn't drink and drive!


yup, thats true, take my responsibilties, but i think i am party pooping now, since dont want to overdo anything too lazy and not really up for getting my body trashed anymore, just enough to get a good buzz and sleep

yeah well when i went for matt hardwick , just had a beer and a rev, didnt really do much but i had 2 cigs and danced a bit and left.lol

sorry to bum of ya, but not a regular smoker ya know


Posted by Surreal JRS on Feb-18-2005 06:40:

quote:
Originally posted by arek

and for whomever ended up in a hospital from smokin a J, how the fuck?


I can see possibly a panic/anxiety attack? Weed is known for inducing a panic psychosis in some people, and sometimes out of the blue even if a person has been smoking it for years without issue.

The predominate drugs in my life these days are pretty much caffeine, alcohol, and ibuprofen.

"Drugs bring us to to the gates of paradise, then keep us from entering."
--Mason Cooley


Posted by MarkT on Feb-18-2005 06:52:

quote:
Originally posted by raveed
5htp ne1????


yeah, that helps...I can't remember the last time I felt like a "train wreck" the next day.

good diet + regular gym visits + decent sleep afterwards (+ 5htp)= no train wrecks the next day...just "subdued", lol.

pure MDMA is what it's all about... much less sketch and the next day is relatively painless

as for the original post..."everything in moderation"...why not give in to the craving once every couple of months. Send the kid to mom or dads for the night and go party...or stay in and have a e-love session, hahaha. Why deprive yourself? Just be very responsible about it


Posted by timmyboy on Feb-18-2005 06:54:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT


pure MDMA is what it's all about... much less sketch and the next day is relatively painless



amen brother... hard to dance for the first hour or so though


Posted by Surreal JRS on Feb-18-2005 07:03:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
yeah, that helps...I can't remember the last time I felt like a "train wreck" the next day.

good diet + regular gym visits + decent sleep afterwards (+ 5htp)= no train wrecks the next day...just "subdued", lol.

pure MDMA is what it's all about... much less sketch and the next day is relatively painless

as for the original post..."everything in moderation"...why not give in to the craving once every couple of months. Send the kid to mom or dads for the night and go party...or stay in and have a e-love session, hahaha. Why deprive yourself? Just be very responsible about it


Some interesting things i've posted before:

quote:
Originally posted by Surreal JRS
MAPS = Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies.

MAPS has embarked on a $5 million, 5-year Clinical Plan to make MDMA into a prescription medicine for the treatment of post-traumatic stress disorder. The FDA has apparently approved this research.

BUT what's even MORE interesting to me are their findings that previous reports grossly overestimated MDMA neurotoxicity in human recreational use.

URI's of interest:
http://www.maps.org/mdma/rd011604.html
http://www.maps.org/sys/w3pb.pl?mod...e=review&r_id=1
http://www.maps.org/research/mdma/


And regarding 5-HTP/Tryptophan...

quote:
Originally posted by Surreal JRS
Insomnia!

My doctor writes me Rx's for various benzodiazepines (sedatives). However they are only good for temporary alleviation of insomnia, and the rebound effects are very prevalent with this type of drug. My doctor wanted to try another route with me. One of the symptoms of serotonin deficiency syndrome is in fact insomnia. Poor diet can spell less of the essential amino acid L-Tryptophan. (It's in milk, turkey, etc). Essential amino acids are essential because the body can't create them it's self, and relys on external sources.

As previously stated, L-Tryptophan is one of the essential amino-acids which in turn gets converted to 5-Hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP); 5-HTP is the direct precursor to serotonin (5-HT). And we all know serotonin plays a critical role in how we feel, and also sleep.

In the United States L-Tryptophan was banned by the FDA due to a fatal contamination linked to a Japanese company manufacturing L-Tryptophan. Reportedly this Japanese company tried to speed up their production by using genetic engineering. L-Tryptophan is still legal in Canada, and for the Americans 5-HTP can still be sold in the US.

L-Tryptophan is reportedly superior to 5-HTP as 5-HTP is converted to serotonin in the stomach, and this causes some gastro-intestinal upset (there are quite a few serotonin receptors in the gastro-intestinal tract) and means there is less 5-HT available where it's needed most, the brain. In order to help you with mood and insomnia L-Tryptophan must pass through the blood brain barrier where it can be decarboxylased into 5-HT.

I take 4g (yes grams) of L-Tryptophan at bedtime. And with my drug plan, it's 100% covered. (You can't beat that!)

So if you are having trouble sleeping and/or have mood issues, then L-Tryptophan might be right for you. It's natural (basically a supplement) and going the SSRI and/or benzodiazepine route probably creates more damage/trouble than it's worth.

Oh, and be sure to take a B vitamin complex with L-Tryptophan. If you are B3 deficient the L-Tryptophan will be converted to B3 instead of 5-HT! B6 quashes a toxic metabolite of L-Tryptophan that could cause bladder cancer. And if memory serves me correctly, one of the B vitamins helps get L-Tryptophan though the blood brain barrier.


Posted by The Highroller on Feb-18-2005 07:06:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
as for the original post..."everything in moderation"...why not give in to the craving once every couple of months. Send the kid to mom or dads for the night and go party...or stay in and have a e-love session, hahaha. Why deprive yourself? Just be very responsible about it


I disagree. There are no controls in what is in the pill that you're taking. Even though the chance is very very small, when you take a pill, you could die. If you don't have a kid and you die, sure it sucks, but no one is depending on you. But if you have a kid, and you die from taking a pill, that kid is left without a mother or father because the parent put their desire to get "fucked up" over their child.

Other than pot, it is my beleif that if you want to do drugs, you shouldn't have children. Once a child comes into your life, that's when you have to put down the pipe, yo. (save weed, since weed is not a drug )


Posted by MarkT on Feb-18-2005 07:19:

fair enough...good point Graham.

MDMA would be the recommendation then...not e...because a lot of e is dirty

SurrJRS...I also feel the "dangers" of MDMA are exaggerated...Graham points out the REAL danger...you don't know what you're getting in a pill (without a batch being tested first).

MDMA though...there are people who have been doing it every weekend, several times per weekend, for years...MDMA has been around for a while. While studies of long-term effects aren't plentiful, if it was *that* toxic and dangerous, there would a LOT of people who were *obviously* very fucked up from doing a *lot* more than 99% of any of us have done, I'm sure.

just my opinion...not based in fact at all. I stand by my "everything in moderation" statement. I'd never do e on a weekly basis for any length of time.


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