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Posted by Leon on Feb-20-2005 08:24:

Anyone NOT using VSTI's/Reason?

Okay, I don't know if this is the initial red tape of becoming a producer, but breaking the ice is just far harder than I've ever expected... Becoming a dj was back and forth almost everyday, but this is just worse because I have the inspiration, and I can't motivate it because every time I open Reason it just ends up being closed 5 minutes later.

Can anyone that uses Reason help me produce a simple bass line? I tryed that Bren-F tutorial or something, it still didn't help me. Anyways, thanks for reading

Posted by djdustx on Feb-20-2005 09:20:

lmao...u poor basterd...

no one in there right mind starts with Reason...and doesnt expect to get frustrated as hell...

bro try FL STudio...its ALOT more user-friendly.

with creation of basslines...

try www.serious-sounds.net in the forums...theres at least 20 different genre basslines tutorials

best of luck

Seb.

Posted by Massive84 on Feb-20-2005 10:08:

am sorry, but subtractor is the king of bass sounds, especially for trance.

MK-S
George Hales

are 2 great examples.

only vst i would like for bass is albino 2.

And yes, don't expect you can produce magical sounds in Reason , takes a month or 6 before you start to understand it.

At least thats how long it took for me.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Feb-20-2005 10:13:

quote:
Originally posted by djdustx
lmao...u poor basterd...

no one in there right mind starts with Reason...and doesnt expect to get frustrated as hell...

Yeah, whatever...

Posted by staticblue on Feb-20-2005 10:30:

Re: Anyone NOT using VSTI's/Reason?

quote:
Originally posted by Leon Oziel
I have the inspiration, and I can't motivate it because every time I open Reason it just ends up being closed 5 minutes later.

Can anyone that uses Reason help me produce a simple bass line? I tryed that Bren-F tutorial or something, it still didn't help me. Anyways, thanks for reading

Plain nonsense. Of course you aren't able to make any good sound if you close your sequencer after 5 minutes each time. You thought producing was easy ???
If you want to improve, go to your synths/sequencer and try hard.

Posted by alanzo on Feb-20-2005 13:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Yeah, whatever...

agreed.. MANY people start with Reason.. it takes just as much time to learn Reason as it does to learn FL or Cubase (if not less time).

The reason you can't produce a good bassline isn't because of the software you're using, it's because you've never done it before. Just keep working at it.

If you're closing it after 5 mins, perhaps producing isn't for you since you obviously find it boring.

Posted by UphoricNitemare on Feb-20-2005 14:49:

I don't think he is bored with it. I think he closes it down because he feels overwhelmed. Just keep trying...don't give up. Its worth all the frustration in the world just to write music, and produce it.

Posted by alanzo on Feb-20-2005 15:21:

quote:
Originally posted by UphoricNitemare
I don't think he is bored with it. I think he closes it down because he feels overwhelmed. Just keep trying...don't give up. Its worth all the frustration in the world just to write music, and produce it.

yes, while I was on the shitter thinking about my post, I thought bored/frustrated would of been a better term

Posted by RIPassion on Feb-20-2005 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by djdustx no one in there right mind starts with Reason...and doesnt expect to get frustrated as hell...

My ass! I didn't know anything about music production at all, not even what a frequency was, and I bought reason and had no problems. You don't just read a manual and then expect to have "madskillz;" you take it one problems at a time. I have dabbled hardly at all with other production programs, but learning to use reason was far from difficult for me.

Back to the main person of the thread: 5 minutes? Don't get frustrated. At first, opening the "create" menu can be a lot for the mind, considering you have no idea what anything does, but don't be freaked out about it. Learn to use the mixer first, (duh), then learn to use the redrum and samplers (and see the similarities/differences), then learn to use the synthesizers (keep all similarities/differences from the samplers/redrum in mind for the synths), and THEN you can learn to reverb/delay/eq/etc.

If you really are eager to learn to make synths, then fine, open up a subtractor, but I gurantee the knowledge you get from using an nn-19 will knock out about half of the knobs on the subtractor for you, and it'll be easier to learn the nn-19.

As for the sequencer, if there's anything that isn't self explanatory, open up the demo songs and figure out what does what. (just change stuff and play around, nothing wrong with that).

Above all, good luck.

Posted by Leon on Feb-20-2005 22:36:

I know how to use these things, it's just the lack of experience and failure to achieve what I want to hear.

So HEY! I don't know what happened, but it happened, and in like 10 minutes I had a crazy bassline going down... it's weird but it just came into place, but shekthisout! :S

http://digital-menace.com/ug/yaybassline.mp3

edit: .om :/

Posted by RIPassion on Feb-20-2005 22:45:

Wow, that bassline is so good it broke the link :0

Posted by Danne__85 on Feb-20-2005 23:09:

That bassline was pretty good.

Just a tip: Use the Subtractor for your basslines. I love to use it for that.

I made a little bassline with the use of 2 Subtractors.
One for the rolling bassline and one for the offbeat bass.

Sample: http://www.lnctv.com/~a41154a/sampl...ractor-bass.mp3

Posted by Leon on Feb-21-2005 00:13:

sweet :S!! Think you can share that if you don't mind? I learn best by tweaking and modding already done stuff :>

Posted by RIPassion on Feb-21-2005 03:32:

Nice (the first link was broken earlier :P)

I love that second one Loud and present

Posted by enferno on Feb-21-2005 08:16:

quote:
Originally posted by djdustx
lmao...u poor basterd...

no one in there right mind starts with Reason...and doesnt expect to get frustrated as hell...

bro try FL STudio...its ALOT more user-friendly.

with creation of basslines...

try www.serious-sounds.net in the forums...theres at least 20 different genre basslines tutorials

best of luck

Seb.

i started with reason and ended up just fine.

Posted by hardikaveri on Feb-21-2005 08:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
am sorry, but subtractor is the king of bass sounds, especially for trance.

true!!

for example cosmicman made his hit "i love you" bassline with subtracktor

Posted by Danne__85 on Feb-21-2005 11:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Leon Oziel
sweet :S!! Think you can share that if you don't mind? I learn best by tweaking and modding already done stuff :>

Sorry, don't want to do that. The rsn-file, with the bassline(s) in it, is a part of a song that I'm working on.
I hope you understand.

But I think you can make your own file by listening to the sample. It isn't that complicated.
If you need any help or something like that, just ask.

Posted by Leon on Feb-21-2005 12:01:

Okay cool, how did you get such a lucid sound?

Posted by Danne__85 on Feb-21-2005 13:55:

Sorry, I ain't that good in english. What does lucid means?

Posted by Leon on Feb-21-2005 13:58:

argle, what they call "phat sound"

Posted by Danne__85 on Feb-21-2005 14:04:

Okey, well.. By the use of some eq.

On the rolling I boost'ed between 250 hz and 1k hz. Then I cutted the bass alittle.
On the offbeat bass I did the opposite.

Then on the kick I just used some eq and compression.

That's it.