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Posted by d_vision on Feb-20-2005 09:04:

Produce

I have few questions:
What sould i do to release this track: http://gringo.itkm.ru/GRINGO%20-%20...%20Mix)(44).mp3
What changes i need to do?
Now im attemp to ReCreate this in Logic, to make sound more pro...
Its 4th post,previous dont give me feedback


sorry for my english...


Posted by d_vision on Feb-21-2005 07:00:


Posted by Luke Terry on Feb-21-2005 15:29:



its pretty good

percs need work tho


Posted by d_vision on Feb-21-2005 15:50:

WOW 1 reply
thx mate!
Yes, percs and bassdrum...
What about in percs? whats wrong?


Posted by kopi_luwak on Feb-21-2005 17:01:

Gringo?lol...that's a mexican slang to refer to an american :P.
Kopi =o.


Posted by wrzonance on Feb-21-2005 19:36:

Hmmm. Verrrryyy progressive.

Your precs sound ALRIGHT to me. But there is something to be desired, I can't quite put my finger on it.

Haha!. That kick-snare reminds me of Ferry Corsten tracks!. Seriously that guy... all his tracks, that blasted kick snare. But I <3 Ferry Corsten so it's okay in my book .

But the kick is a bit dry. Like I always try to remember that... if you're making a trance song, of any varient, it's important to realize we're all going to be listening to the same 4/4 kick for a long time, it can't be boring. But hey, I always get lazy w. my kicks too so I'll stfu about it.

I like it's sound. Like most prog it's pretty chill stuff. I think you need more effects though.

Overall. I'd give it a thumbs up, keep up the work. AND LOL about the Gringo. Cabron!


Posted by d_vision on Feb-21-2005 20:24:

Thanks!
It our project with my friend Maks, it our 3rd track , IMHO the best for now (maybe Cyber Girl also ).
Maks told me that Gringo is mexican sland to differ foreigner
But anyway i think this MYSTERY name...
Can u explain how to make that... that kick? its my problem....


Posted by kopi_luwak on Feb-21-2005 20:34:

quote:
Originally posted by d_vision
Thanks!
It our project with my friend Maks, it our 3rd track , IMHO the best for now (maybe Cyber Girl also ).
Maks told me that Gringo is mexican sland to differ foreigner
But anyway i think this MYSTERY name...
Can u explain how to make that... that kick? its my problem....

LOL,no man,ur buddy is wrong,we just call gringos to americans,we call canadians canadians or canucks,frenchs frenchs and american gringos :P.
Kopi =o.


Posted by d_vision on Feb-21-2005 20:41:

Talking

LOL
So Gringo is not good name?


Posted by kopi_luwak on Feb-21-2005 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by d_vision
LOL
So Gringo is not good name?

LOL,well,all fine ,we just use it to call americans,not really a bad word just mexican slang .
Kopi =o.


Posted by d_vision on Feb-22-2005 13:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Luke Terry


its pretty good

percs need work tho


Need more variations?
or poor sound?
quote:
Originally posted by DJFreaq
But the kick is a bit dry. Like I always try to remember that... if you're making a trance song, of any varient, it's important to realize we're all going to be listening to the same 4/4 kick for a long time, it can't be boring. But hey, I always get lazy w. my kicks too so I'll stfu about it.

Ok i'll add some brakes


Posted by d_vision on Feb-23-2005 15:33:

How about 1:40? I love this moment!!!!
And 3:10 melody???
.......and 5:13 beat?


Posted by _Marco_ on Feb-23-2005 15:43:

pretty good track but yea youd need to fill the blank between the kick and the snare drum cuz your hats are too light to keep the beat flows nicely


Posted by MegaMan on Feb-24-2005 01:26:

good stuff
i like it as it is
but you need to master it juuuuust by tiny little
but it will make a huge difference
spectrum dosent look too good, you need to make it a bit louder in terms of frequency organization


Posted by d_vision on Feb-24-2005 11:18:

Thanx for feedback!
this track was mastered by me at Ozone, now im see some mistakes...
spectrum....honestly i dot understand what u mean ;( but ill try something....


Posted by MegaMan on Feb-25-2005 00:00:

"spectrum"


Posted by d_vision on Feb-25-2005 12:34:

I meant , i dont understand how to make this spectrum looks good


Posted by d_vision on Feb-26-2005 13:50:

hmmmm....
How this version?

http://gringo.itkm.ru/Gringo - Far ...un(Master2).mp3


added some brakes and well mastered )
Feedback please...


Posted by d_vision on Feb-27-2005 07:08:


Posted by gerrycueto on Feb-27-2005 07:58:

quote:
Originally posted by kopi_luwak
Gringo?lol...that's a mexican slang to refer to an american :P.
Kopi =o.


I guess he's a Russian gringo.

As for this fresh produce right here, the intro reminds me of Vadim Zhukov... maybe Russian prog trance producers got a similar thing going on heh whatever... it's a cool melody but I feel sometimes it gets drowned out by the bassline. The breakdown is really cool... I can hear the melody better and I say it has a lot of potential, but then it's kinda killed with some weird glass sound. This would be a good original mix for the vynil, but I'd make a club mix version of this track that's centered around the melodies in the breakdown (you know, the fifths before the glass melody). It would definately be a dancefloor rocker, if you did that.

*EDIT*

Okay, I guess I didn't hear this MASTER 2 version... why didn't you just overwrite the one you already had. This intro melody is really cool... I'd keep it for the club mix and of course for the main melody the 5ths in the breakdown. I like the breakbeats. I don't think this sounds much different other than the fact that the kick EQed a bit sharper... can't say I like this kick anyway, but progs using some weird ass kicks nowadays... I guess they're trying to be more progressive than thou... I dono heh :P


Posted by d_vision on Feb-27-2005 09:15:

Agree with you
Yes melody at first brakes kicks ass In first version was one great moment, when melody plaing and beats starts...yes...will do club mix, thx for advance!
Glass sound wass added by Germy (2nd gringo ). He like it...so need to kill this? ok
I dono why i didn't just overwrite it...brakes only available at master 2 so it was master 2...



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