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Posted by eyeball_2003 on Feb-22-2005 09:06:

buzzing sound

hi all, i experience a 'buzzing' through my headphones when a record isnt playing, you cant hear it when a record is playing, anyone know what it is? i have the decks grounded to my mixer , so i cant figure out what the problem is. anyone had this problem before? thanks


Posted by tu_face on Feb-22-2005 11:55:

does the buzzing come through the speakers as well? if not then i wouldn't worry too much, it will be a problem with the cue channel.

if yes, its most likely to be a ground loop (so re-check all your grounding), or fluff in the terminals of the headshell/cart.


Posted by eyeball_2003 on Feb-22-2005 12:24:

yeah if i turn the speakers up loud without playing anything i can still hear it. its not my stylus or headshell.. just replaced them for shure mg44's . iv tried replacing my leads, could it be becasue i dont have an amp? i just have active speakers.
thanks


Posted by WeasiL on Feb-22-2005 16:15:

I've had this problem before and found it actually varies from place to place. Even if everything is well grounded in your setup the main power feed could suck. I remember in my old apartment I had a terrible ground and would get a humm/buzz all the time. Since I moved its pretty much gone... Guess they have better wiring here.


Posted by abnorm on Feb-22-2005 16:40:

Do you have anything else pluged in to your mixer like a computer or an amplifier. Try to plug everything in to the same power strip, that usually gets rid of the ground loop for me.


Posted by DaveSchloosh! on Feb-22-2005 16:40:

A good tip from my production days is to make sure that everything plugged into the amp and mixer is routed from the same mains plug.
The reason being that using different mains sockets can introduce a potential difference, which presents itself as a hum.....
Use an extension with a surge protect on it if ya have lots of gear.


Posted by Freak on Feb-22-2005 16:51:

you clearly have a winged insect trapped in your headphones.

Call rentokill


Posted by abnorm on Feb-22-2005 17:06:

And an Antlion in your speakers.


Posted by tu_face on Feb-22-2005 19:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
you clearly have a winged insect trapped in your headphones.

Call rentokill




its most likely to be a grounding/power supply issue. i used to get a buzz when i had my decks in the other room, it was mainly down to my computer being attatched to it from a different power source. try buying an 8-way plug board and have everything coming from one plug.


Posted by eyeball_2003 on Feb-22-2005 21:13:

i have a double socket in the wall one of them has a 4 way plug with my pc on. the other has my 2 decks, mixer and active speakers, even with the pc off the sound is still present. doesnt bother me too much tho if its just something to do with the main power feed then ill just ignore it.
thanks everyone who replied


Posted by Timski on Feb-22-2005 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by abnorm
And an Antlion in your speakers.


...That thing is beautiful


Posted by DJ Joshua H on Feb-23-2005 05:01:

Re: buzzing sound

quote:
Originally posted by eyeball_2003
hi all, i experience a 'buzzing' through my headphones when a record isnt playing, you cant hear it when a record is playing, anyone know what it is? i have the decks grounded to my mixer , so i cant figure out what the problem is. anyone had this problem before? thanks


I had a very similar problem. Its a grounding issue and its very simple to fix. All you need is an adaptor that takes your typical 3 prong plug and turns it into a 2 prong (pos and neg, no ground). Although if your in the UK, I'm not sure if this will be completely accurate but you just need to get rid of the ground.


Posted by eyeball_2003 on Feb-23-2005 09:53:

Re: Re: buzzing sound

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Joshua H
I had a very similar problem. Its a grounding issue and its very simple to fix. All you need is an adaptor that takes your typical 3 prong plug and turns it into a 2 prong (pos and neg, no ground). Although if your in the UK, I'm not sure if this will be completely accurate but you just need to get rid of the ground.


if thats the case and i need to get rid of my ground, couldnt i just not ground my decks through the mixer?


Posted by eyeball_2003 on Feb-23-2005 11:23:

yeah our plugs have three pins and a fuse inside and i mentioned earlier i dont have an amp just a pair of active speakers, no one picked up on this.. could that be the problem? or doesnt it matter?


Posted by Derivative on Feb-23-2005 11:44:

no. active speakers/monitors are exactly the same as their passive equivilants except the amp is built into the speaker cabinet. in most cases, actives are generally better than passives because the amp is specifically matched to the power requirements of the speaker by the manufacturer.

99% of buzzing is caused by electrical defects. not properly grounding things, ground loops, faulty shielding, faulty power supplies or by keeping electrical power supplies close to yuor gear.


Posted by 6iki_Snake on Feb-23-2005 11:47:

probably grounding, wich is easy to solve... but it could also be that you just need to clean your tonearms and headshells, please not with spit!!!! The acids in your spit will cause damage to the material your tonearm and headshells ( and especially those 4 little points ). There is special cleaning fluid for that, ( dont use anything with corrosive properties )


Posted by eyeball_2003 on Feb-23-2005 14:23:

thanks everyone, ill try cleaning the headshells, also gonna try plugging them in in another room see if it makes a difference. thanks again


Posted by bass.exe on Feb-23-2005 15:26:

Re: Re: Re: Re: buzzing sound

quote:
Originally posted by Nou


Didnt see your in the UK, not quite sure that you can do the ground lift thingy there, if Im not mistaken arnt all plugs in the UK supposed to be grounded and the connecter has a fuse?


actually I found a way to use european plugs (2 prongs, no ground or fuse) with english plugs without using an adaptor.
If you stick scissors in the ground of the plug (ie the top socket) and push them in, it will release the safety shells covering the two bottom holes, allowing you to insert a two prong plug (even if its a round pronged euro one). then remove the scissors and its fine.
hope this helps.


Posted by eyeball_2003 on Feb-23-2005 15:55:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: buzzing sound

quote:
Originally posted by bass.exe
actually I found a way to use european plugs (2 prongs, no ground or fuse) with english plugs without using an adaptor.
If you stick scissors in the ground of the plug (ie the top socket) and push them in, it will release the safety shells covering the two bottom holes, allowing you to insert a two prong plug (even if its a round pronged euro one). then remove the scissors and its fine.
hope this helps.


you mean stick scissors in the hole in the wall? that sounds like fun..... *reaches for the scissors* no seriously if i cant get the problem solved i think this would be a last resort lol sounds quite dangerous to me


Posted by DJ Joshua H on Feb-23-2005 17:35:

Re: Re: Re: buzzing sound

quote:
Originally posted by eyeball_2003
if thats the case and i need to get rid of my ground, couldnt i just not ground my decks through the mixer?


I assume your talking about the grounding wires that come out of the 1200's and you screw into the back of the mixer. Yeah, thats not the ground i'm talking about. its on the electrical plug, just get the adaptor thing.........its really cheap too.


Posted by bass.exe on Feb-24-2005 06:52:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: buzzing sound

quote:
Originally posted by eyeball_2003
you mean stick scissors in the hole in the wall? that sounds like fun..... *reaches for the scissors* no seriously if i cant get the problem solved i think this would be a last resort lol sounds quite dangerous to me


dude its completely safe. my step father taught me how to do it and hes like in his 60s. the top hole is the earth and therefore wont send any current ur way so u dont need to worry.


Posted by eyeball_2003 on Feb-24-2005 08:40:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: buzzing sound

quote:
Originally posted by bass.exe
dude its completely safe. my step father taught me how to do it and hes like in his 60s. the top hole is the earth and therefore wont send any current ur way so u dont need to worry.

ok ill look for a site to explain it a bit better or would you know one?


Posted by tu_face on Feb-24-2005 11:40:

remember your computer is ATX, there will always be power running through it. disconnect it totally from the mixer and unplug it from the socket, then see if you still get a buzz.


Posted by eyeball_2003 on Feb-24-2005 12:25:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
remember your computer is ATX, there will always be power running through it. disconnect it totally from the mixer and unplug it from the socket, then see if you still get a buzz.


still got the annoting buzzing but thanks anyway



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