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Posted by Aesthetic on Feb-22-2005 09:34:

smokers:: unite

so they're passing laws to not smoke in any pubs/clubs/bars/doghouses/henhouses/etc. australia wide.

wheres the fucking fun now?

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.


Posted by Antistatic on Feb-22-2005 09:51:

Good.

When I was at Sasha in Melb some chick sits down next to me when I'm feeling sick and goes "oh yeah that sucks" then lights one up goddamn crack whore!


Posted by Nic on Feb-22-2005 10:46:

yeah i'm looking foward to this, i'm sick of having to wash/dry clean every fucking piece of clothing i wear out after going to a club, plus the smoke makes me feel like shit, fucks up my eyes/nose/throat etc


Posted by Paulie on Feb-22-2005 10:48:

Pretty stupid imo, smoke in the club only enhances the atmospher and also i love the smell of sexondary smoke


Posted by Nic on Feb-22-2005 11:16:


Posted by 00soups00 on Feb-22-2005 11:27:

Hey.

at least we can smoke at our train stations

people in Sydney aren't even allowed to do that!!!!


Posted by gumble on Feb-22-2005 12:20:

Smoking is needed in evolution.

With all the advances in medical technologies and pharmaceuticals, people now have the ability to live longer. Live way past thier potential reproductive years. If we break down the human species to a biological level, this becomes pointless, as the main goal of any organism is to pass on thier genetic material onto a future generation. Once the individual in a species has gone through the sexually mature phase of thier life, the rest becomes merely waiting for the one certainty: death. Death is needed to bring new life. In human terms, the elderly are going to to put a strain on the economy, a burden on the progression of a country and generally hold back the evolution of the human being to our ultimate goal of the "posthuman future". (Posthuman = aiding evolution and making OURSELVES into a higher species, through genetic engineering and robotics).

So in fact, smoking related diseases ~especially cancer~, and the shorter lifetime associated with them are beautifully intertwined with evolution to combat the medical advances which add longetivity to life and ultimately slow progress.

Smoke all you want! Especially you stupid people out there! Lets get the generations ticking over!

Maybe next time I'll spill out my plans for an Aryan society!!

Long live Eugenics!


Posted by stamper on Feb-22-2005 12:35:

^^^^

Gumbles complicated reason for blowing $20 a week on smokes.


And yeah i think it is a bit harsh on the smokers... but its cool for all us non-smokers. At least they should have sections or something where you can go and have a smoke.


Posted by jizza on Feb-22-2005 12:57:

i wouldnt mind uniting with you dave. if for just one night.


Posted by escee on Feb-22-2005 13:23:

smoking is dirty

more dirty than smoking speed.


Posted by pho mo on Feb-22-2005 14:12:

Damn this fag is nice, Just what I needed ahhhhh!


Posted by G`Dave on Feb-22-2005 14:33:

Very pleased to hear it.

Secondary smoke stinks, gets in hair and clothes. Once I've worn an item of clothing to a club, I have to wash it again straight away.

Plus I don't want to be breathing it in, it can sometimes trigger athsma, which I haven't had since I was 5, I don't get it anywhere else.

*And I'm sick of being burnt by wankers who way around their fags*


Posted by Sly_Guy on Feb-22-2005 16:19:

quote:
Originally posted by pho mo
Damn this fag is nice, Just what I needed ahhhhh!


Awwe man, I wanted to make the first fag reference.

Nah seriously, no smoking in clubs has it's ups and downs. For one, your clothes don't reek of smoke when you go home the next day, but the downside is that all that smoke smell covers up a lot of that nasty BO and e-farts you'd never smell otherwise.


Posted by rez on Feb-22-2005 19:02:

Love Poundin' Sensation

if you bunch of whining fukcs dont like the way your clothes smell after going to a club, then stay the fukc home.


Posted by kelsta on Feb-22-2005 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by 00soups00
Hey.

at least we can smoke at our train stations

people in Sydney aren't even allowed to do that!!!!



Except at Flinders St


Posted by OLi_A on Feb-22-2005 21:28:

i smoke and im all for the smoking bans, mainly because im not allowed to smoke in the club when im working. the club industry will lose alot of patronage, people will start drinking at home and ill get paid to stand and stare


Posted by PDT on Feb-22-2005 21:46:

Do you honestly think clubs (not bars with separate meals areas or TAB/pathetic pokie venues, i mean nightclubs with loud music clubs) will follow suit? Club owners would know how detrimental this would be to their bar sales and will more than likely turn a blind eye unless some little weasel dobbed em in.

Take Metro for example...can you honestly say out of 2000 people, 1800 will stop smoking? I agree that smoking is bad and what not, but i am a smoker too and i can safely say that the club industry revolves around the social aspect of lighting up a cigarette, having a drink and a dance...like its been said before, if you dont like your clothes smelling like crap the following day, either dont go out at all or when you get home air your clothes you whinging pricks!

And for the record, those people who choose to work in environments surrounded my smokers; i hate to generalise here but ive worked in a shit load of clubs and everyone ive met smoked...those who didnt knew the working conditions and just got on with the job...dont like it? work elsewhere...simple.


Posted by Aesthetic on Feb-22-2005 22:01:

Pete.. I thought they were passing a law that said you cannot smoke in clubs/bars/etc. past a certain date? If it's a law.. how do certain clubs choose to disregard it?


Posted by PDT on Feb-22-2005 22:09:

Haha, laws....there are laws against people who jay walk; there are laws against drivers who speed and run red lights...DRUGS are illegal ffs! Yet, people still 'break the law'...sure, it may be easier to police clubs who disobey the anti smoking laws, but i'll reiterate, do you think club owners will adhere to the laws, or go about their business? Perhaps my perception of clubs differ from yours...for instance, Cage Nightclub...there is no chance in hell they will ever enforce something like this *and now that ive name dropped it the online police army will hunt it down :P*...lets just say all rave based clubs and the clubs that encourage copious amounts of alcohol consumption *Goo, Twister so on and so forth*...

Like the drug testing, this too is pretty sketchy and lame.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-22-2005 22:10:

i think its bollocks. im all for an owner to decide to make their establishment smoke-free, and good luck to them. but i dont see it as a govt\'s responsibility to legislate that kind of activity. im happy for there to be standards of ventilation etc, but ultimately its a persons choice to enter or not to enter a smoking environment. i feel for the staff of clubs & pubs, but ultimately they knew what environment they were applying to work in.

govt\'s stick their noses in all the wrong places.


Posted by Aesthetic on Feb-22-2005 22:13:

I would have thought the penalties would be severe, so bad that it would force owners with no choice but to encourage the law.


Posted by PDT on Feb-22-2005 22:17:

Well thats what they said about people going against the water restrictions but they never laid any charges and there were countless of residents who went against the bans...look at the percentages again Dave...with well over 80% of club patrons smoking and most staff members and management doing the same (or more, ie drugs) this wont be welcomed with open arms...but hey, no one is saying its impossible and im sure enforement will occur, but not without some form of resistance.

Drugs are illegal yet there are clubs out there whose management and patrons consume them *and drugs dont just exist in rave type clubs either...they're everywhere!*..*this time i wont name names :P*...if the authorities cant police anti drug laws in clubs how the hell will they police smoking bans?


Posted by Chookie on Feb-22-2005 23:16:

If you go somewhere and dance and sweat all night or wear clothes for 8-10 hours and don't wash them regardless of smoke or not then that's disgusting!


Posted by Light The Fuse on Feb-22-2005 23:38:

Im so healthy, i have quit like 10 times this year already.


Posted by Antistatic on Feb-22-2005 23:44:

quote:
Originally posted by PDT
if the authorities cant police anti drug laws in clubs how the hell will they police smoking bans?

It's a bit more obvious when someone's smoking a fag. Most clubs here have designated smoking space so stop your whinging and go munch on your fags away from me where I don't have to breathe your 2nd-hand smoke.


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