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Posted by A83 on Feb-24-2005 03:11:

Armin Van Buuren 'Sound'

I have finally found the secret to That Brightening sound Armin puts on his sets...FM Compression!

If you put a FM Compression thingamajigger on top of your sets...it enriches the sound and makes them much more vibrant and so much more wanting to listen to.

With
Without

It's a noticeable differance and I'm guessing a few of you would like to use it on top of your sets.

You can download it for WINAMP
http://www.z-plutonia.com/SoundSolution.exe


Posted by Toufas on Feb-24-2005 03:47:

which plugin and which preset? :O


Posted by Boomer187 on Feb-24-2005 03:57:

when he records his live sets he goes straight to mp3 with total recorder.



is that the sound your talkin about?


Posted by A83 on Feb-24-2005 04:00:

Direct Download
http://www.soundsolution.it/index.p...oad&filecatid=1

Default Preset that comes with it


Posted by A83 on Feb-24-2005 04:02:

nah see...armin has a expensive radio compression unit costs like $5,000 & produces some of the best quality shit out there.


Posted by Boomer187 on Feb-24-2005 04:18:

quote:
Originally posted by A83
nah see...armin has a expensive radio compression unit costs like $5,000 & produces some of the best quality shit out there.


so your saying the sound of his productions......not his dj sets.


Posted by Pippins on Feb-24-2005 04:19:

Smiley DJ

Hi guys!

Just my 2 cents!. Yes it does lot of difference. I have been convesing with Armin on his web site forum. He will now be going digital with Ableton Live, which I've been using for a while now. The FM compression you talking about, can be found on SOUND FORGE 7.0. Sometimes I'd also put a slight delay reverb on it.

Enjoy !
Cheers!
DJ_Pippins


Posted by A83 on Feb-24-2005 04:20:

Uhg...I just gave a link to something better than soundforge would do for fm compression


Posted by miamitranceman on Feb-24-2005 06:26:

Re: Armin Van Buuren 'Sound'

quote:
Originally posted by A83
I have finally found the secret to That Brightening sound Armin puts on his sets...FM Compression!

If you put a FM Compression thingamajigger on top of your sets...it enriches the sound and makes them much more vibrant and so much more wanting to listen to.

With
Without

It's a noticeable differance and I'm guessing a few of you would like to use it on top of your sets.

You can download it for WINAMP here




Interesting you point this out. I've always wondered about this.


Posted by A83 on Feb-24-2005 06:44:

Theres also a tiny bit of reverb on armins sets...and I don't think this plugin can do that yet


Posted by auujay on Feb-24-2005 12:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
when he records his live sets he goes straight to mp3 with total recorder.



is that the sound your talkin about?


I think he is talking about his ASOT sets which of course or being broadcast on FM. Radio gets tons of compression and limiting to "maximize" the sound they trasmit.


Posted by tu_face on Feb-24-2005 12:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
so your saying the sound of his productions......not his dj sets.


no, he isn't.

all radio stations and other broadcasting places ALWAYS use compressors. its a way to safely get maximum volume without clipping, safely protecting equipment. it also, as you know, adds a nice rounded full sound to it all.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Feb-24-2005 12:13:

Ok, let's keep our feet on the ground for a moment.

With regards to radio (as Tuface mentions), yes you will always have compression on a radio show. Stuff recorded from the radio will have a certain clarity and loudness that you don't get if you listen direct from source.
There is always a sound engineer present when a radio show is being broadcast.

Has anyone ever noticed how good his live sets sound?
The man is an absolute genious with an EQ and understands accoustics very well so there is a lot more to Armin's sound than just one easy wonder solution.

You are entering the realm of mastering and sound engineering and anyone that thinks there is a simple quick fix solution is dreaming.

If you were however to put some compression on your demo mix or and a maximizer then you would get a more pleasing sound as long as it's done well.
But as for playing live at a venue that comes down to experience, good understanding and a good ear.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by A83 on Feb-24-2005 19:04:

Theres also weather and geography that can change sound. I heard radio stations stream at 96kbps to push the signal farther


Posted by Tony Morello on Feb-24-2005 19:18:

at my station, the on-air personality's voice and music goes through about 3-5 compressors/processors before it hits the air
it gives it more "punch"

quote:

There is always a sound engineer present when a radio show is being broadcast.


however, there isn't always a sound engineer present

radio stations these days are slowly but surely going the route of full automation

there are 5 radio stations being run out of my building, using only the amount of staff it takes to run one station

yes, we do employ a couple full time engineers but they work 9-5
all the settings of the equipment and processors were done when the station opened, they might need a small adjustment every now and then but for the most part everything basically runs itself

it's made to be almost idiot proof, so the on-air personality just has to come in and turn on the mic


Posted by djkoolaide on Feb-24-2005 20:47:

quote:
Originally posted by A83
Theres also weather and geography that can change sound. I heard radio stations stream at 96kbps to push the signal farther


uhh..FM radio does not have a bitrate


Posted by Toufas on Feb-24-2005 21:01:

how do you save the set? :s


Posted by A83 on Feb-24-2005 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by djkoolaide
uhh..FM radio does not have a bitrate


uhh...sorry...the songs that go out have a bitrate

Don't be a retard


Posted by A83 on Feb-24-2005 21:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Toufas
how do you save the set? :s


Uhh...You have to record the set first...then run it again on winamp and the plugin and record it again

I know it's time consuming but it gives the set better quality


Posted by DannyO on Feb-24-2005 21:52:

I tried to give this a go and it keeps crashing whenever I select it, I was trying to listen to an internet radio station, can this thing do streams?, I woulda thought so, would try but I'm at work right now.


Posted by WeasiL on Feb-24-2005 23:23:

anyone got another link to the plugin? seems this guy hit his bandwidth limit, heh...

also, wouldnt it be less time consuming if you just used the dsp with a file writer output plugin?


Posted by A83 on Feb-25-2005 00:43:

quote:
Originally posted by DannyO
I tried to give this a go and it keeps crashing whenever I select it, I was trying to listen to an internet radio station, can this thing do streams?, I woulda thought so, would try but I'm at work right now.


I'm listening to ETN with it ATM....you using winamp 5?

Mine occasionally crashes


Posted by iammesol on Feb-25-2005 03:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Pippins
Hi guys!

Just my 2 cents!. Yes it does lot of difference. I have been convesing with Armin on his web site forum. He will now be going digital with Ableton Live, which I've been using for a while now. The FM compression you talking about, can be found on SOUND FORGE 7.0. Sometimes I'd also put a slight delay reverb on it.

Enjoy !
Cheers!
DJ_Pippins


hes going to use Live for mixing too or just recording?


Posted by wrzonance on Feb-25-2005 03:19:

Haha, no kidding. Seriously I can engineer a mix pretty well now, and every commercial sound you hear uses compression. But I'm not gonna jump on the the bandwaggon and rant about bitrates and FM radio, everyone knows about signal processing

fuck i need some sleep


Posted by A83 on Feb-25-2005 06:00:

If anyone wants me to put the FM Compression on their set PM me with a link to it


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