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Posted by calculmore on Feb-26-2005 06:31:

u know for a trance board, alot of u are so anal about what music is not cheese

i mean when people ask about a track but it's considered cheesy u guys bash the hell out him/her

what kind of music does it have to be. u want stuff that is so boring and monotonous with no melody? what!? sometimes u assholes piss me off


Posted by tribu on Feb-26-2005 06:42:

No one makes you post here.

My advice is, if someone slags what you like, or doesn�t like what you like, or likes something other than you like, ignore it. It's all a matter of taste, which is subjunctive and thus different for each listener.

Making a post about the elitism of some is useless prating. If people don�t share your music tastes, they see you as an elitist or a noob. Your useless complaining only makes you appear immature while fueling their feelings of superiority.

On the other hand, the amount of displayed dislike for any artist/label/genre/etc is sometimes frightening. Lighten up people...


Posted by Zenchowdah on Feb-26-2005 07:04:

quote:
Originally posted by tribu
No one makes you post here.

My advice is, if someone slags what you like, or doesn�t like what you like, or likes something other than you like, ignore it. It's all a matter of taste, which is subjunctive and thus different for each listener.

Making a post about the elitism of some is useless prating. If people don�t share your music tastes, they see you as an elitist or a noob. Your useless complaining only makes you appear immature while fueling their feelings of superiority.

On the other hand, the amount of displayed dislike for any artist/label/genre/etc is sometimes frightening. Lighten up people...


yar, i was about to tell you that subjunctive wasnt a word, but i looked it up n i was wrong.


subjunctive - Of, relating to, or being a mood of a verb used in some languages for contingent or hypothetical action, action viewed subjectively, or grammatically subordinate statements.


how the hell you been, anyways?


Posted by twisted on Feb-26-2005 07:06:

quote:
Originally posted by twisted
.....i also think that people, like me, generalize and sterotype shows/music like whats on ASOT, because its so chalk full of pompous shit. overplayed, overhyped shit. now that may be an opinion... but usually...and i find this alot, many people who listen to asot are ignorant to the glories and discoveries of the other genres and expansions of EDM. its just how it works...no one starts from listening to mainstream rock, lets say, and then finds EDM, and goes right into IDM...or minimal...etc. Take someone who listens to jazz mabye, its more likely (to me anyway), that they will tend to go towards the more...musically developed genres. Someone who listens to underground jazz is most likely better to sniff through the mainstream filler bullshit. Just a theory though. But I wish people would AT LEAST wake up and SEE why people would and should bring down ASOT. Its the top 10 countdown for EDM in a more subtle form. Wake the fuck up. But oh trust me, ive been there...i used to listen to ASOT ALL THE TIME, every show. Trance just grabs a hold of you and doesnt let go. Its the simplest form of EDM (commercial EDM anyway), any asshole and his dog can listen and enjoy trance. It has a simple nobrainers fucking structure, its filled with emotion, makes people cry with joy and other feelings (ive been there, trust me); all those hands in the air moments, the epic breakdowns and buildups...but when the beat drops back in i sometimes find myself feeling guilty. Guilty towards myself for being such a ignorant pussy. Its the same shit as people who listen to mainstream rap. Yeah, its fucking cool (to some at least, i say this loosly, because im not one of those people), it has additude, it basicly has all the ingrediants to be a success IE: aggressive lyrics, additude up the fucking yingyang, the promise of a lifestyle full of glory: scantly clad women, drugs, money, fame, and respect. Of course it turns people on. People get hooked onto that, regardless if its good. Same thing happens with trance, and every other form of Pop. Yes, people, trance is fucking pop. Mainstream, over the top, watered down (yes, it IS a nod to Dave Clarke, fucking genious); monotonous, melodramatic pop. And most of all, its likable. But does that mean its fucking good? does that mean you should defend it because others do, because your little pitiful, untrue to your self exsistance has told you to be like everyone else, weather you know it or not? Fucking no. Ive been there, people, ive done that, everyone. I listened to trance & rap....


Posted by twisted on Feb-26-2005 07:08:

Re: u know for a trance board, alot of u are so anal about what music is not cheese

quote:
Originally posted by calculmore
i mean when people ask about a track but it's considered cheesy u guys bash the hell out him/her

what kind of music does it have to be. u want stuff that is so boring and monotonous with no melody? what!? sometimes u assholes piss me off




its because you probably because your ignorant of other genres and artists. let me ask you this, and dont lie now. Who is your favorite producer.


Posted by Zenchowdah on Feb-26-2005 07:11:

quote:
Originally posted by twisted
pompous shit. overplayed, overhyped shit


Posted by twisted on Feb-26-2005 07:12:

no one hates you or dislikes you for liking cheese/trance/insert mainstream pop tart shit here, they slag you for defending it. because, most likely, you dont have enough knowledge to put up a good fight, which is evidant because all you kind bitch about is how others think its just cheesy. where the fuck is your evidence that it isnt!?!?!

i mean what the fuck!? no one slags you for liking it, only when you bitch and complain about people who dont like it. you wanna listen to music that most people thinks suck shit? face the repercussions asshole!


Posted by mndeg on Feb-26-2005 07:17:

dreaming of youuu
np: The Thrillseekers - Dreaming Of You (Flutlicht Remix)


Posted by peterdjsgirl on Feb-26-2005 07:20:

I do have to admit that it gets frustrating to always have so many negative posts putting down other people or artists. We are all have our unique likes and dislikes. I wish people in general had more respect and tolerance for differences of opinion. This is not to say that we shouldn't be passionate about the music we love and desire others to "get it", but the name calling and puting people down is so 2nd grade. EDM was founded off of diversity and celebrating our unique identity. We shouldn't forget that most of the world doesn't even have a clue how complex and diverse EDM is, and the fact that we are here talking about a form of it, makes us all kind of in the same boat.


Posted by mndeg on Feb-26-2005 07:21:

these forums one year ago weren't like this
there weren't nearly as many elitists

its funny because they enjoy boring drivel


Posted by Cobalt on Feb-26-2005 07:24:

quote:
Originally posted by tribu
Your useless complaining only makes you appear immature while fueling their feelings of superiority.

Aye.

And sad to say, elitists are right 90% of the time.


Posted by Cobalt on Feb-26-2005 07:27:

quote:
Originally posted by twisted

Wow, what a great quote. How did I miss this?


Posted by twisted on Feb-26-2005 07:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Wow, what a great quote. How did I miss this?



sarcasim?


Posted by twisted on Feb-26-2005 07:36:

to the thread starter...how ISN'T TRANCE CHEESY!?!?!?!?!?!?!


its the fluffiest music! thats nothing to be ashamed of..i guess.
but the first step...is admiting.

i (sorta) put up with people like you, so learn to put up with people like me.


Posted by Cobalt on Feb-26-2005 07:37:

quote:
Originally posted by twisted
sarcasim?

Not at all. I've usually been active in the "ASOT vs The Elite" type of threads, but I never read this. It's a great little polemic, though admittedly rough around the edges.


Posted by twisted on Feb-26-2005 07:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Not at all. I've usually been active in the "ASOT vs The Elite" type of threads, but I never read this. It's a great little polemic, though admittedly rough around the edges.


my mistake, thanks though .
glad someones on myside. i just couldnt see what you actually quoted that i said. it just says:
quote:
Originally posted by twisted




oh well... sure, ive been sort of a dick, but i think being assertive is the only way to prove your point on these boards.



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EDIT: Where I ment to say: "i just couldnt see what you actually quoted that i said. it just says:
quote:
Originally posted by twisted
"

it said: "i just couldnt see what you actually quoted that i said. it just says:
quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
"

fixed that.


Posted by tribu on Feb-26-2005 08:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Zenchowdah



Good man, good. Graduating in a month or less and Im somewhat excited. otherwise, working, and TA and all the usual stuff? Are you done on tour now? Hit me up on msn or something. Did I ever give you my cell?

[email protected]


Posted by Simcut on Feb-26-2005 09:59:

Re: u know for a trance board, alot of u are so anal about what music is not cheese

quote:
Originally posted by calculmore
i mean when people ask about a track but it's considered cheesy u guys bash the hell out him/her

what kind of music does it have to be. u want stuff that is so boring and monotonous with no melody? what!? sometimes u assholes piss me off


unfortunately thats the way some people are, slag off anyone at any given opportunity....sure there's entitlement to an opinion but there are a certain few who will slag off anything.


Posted by Jaanus on Feb-26-2005 10:18:

quote:
Originally posted by twisted

you wanna listen to music that most people thinks suck shit? face the repercussions asshole!


I listen to EDM. most people think it's shit


Posted by twisted on Feb-26-2005 10:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Jaanus
I listen to EDM. most people think it's shit


whats your point? how is that relavent to this discussion?


Posted by Clovis on Feb-26-2005 10:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Jaanus
I listen to EDM. most people think it's shit


And those people listen to Linkin Park.


Posted by Jaanus on Feb-26-2005 10:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
And those people listen to Linkin Park.


I listen to Linkin Park and I think their stuff is great. My point was, that if you're supposed to get bashed for listening to cheese, because most of you don't like it, then you yourselves should get bashed for listening to EDM, which most people don't like. But how do you feel when some ignorants tell you: "omg. EDM is such shit. It all sounds the same. I fucken hate it. Go sniff some coce somewhere ******".


Posted by Project 7 on Feb-26-2005 11:39:

Soon you will find the difference between cheese and non cheese


Posted by Simcut on Feb-26-2005 12:13:

Yep, gotta love this "ah it all sounds the same" bullshit.


Posted by twisted on Feb-26-2005 12:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Project 7
Soon you will find the difference between cheese and non cheese



http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=246439


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