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Posted by Topher Jones on Feb-26-2005 06:33:

Insight to getting signed

I was wondering if anyone had any insight of how to get tracks signed besides knowing the right people. Thanks.


Posted by GRW on Feb-26-2005 09:31:

making good tracks.


Posted by Mycron on Feb-26-2005 09:32:

quote:
Originally posted by GRW
making good tracks.


true


Posted by twisted on Feb-26-2005 09:32:

can you post some tracks?


Posted by KilldaDJ on Feb-26-2005 15:32:

tongue lots of ass and suck lots of dick


Posted by Topher Jones on Feb-26-2005 16:09:

obviously your stuff has to be good but i was wondering what the process is like of sending things out and all that stuff


Posted by Luke Terry on Feb-26-2005 16:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Topher Jones
obviously your stuff has to be good but i was wondering what the process is like of sending things out and all that stuff




send mp3 links/cdrs to labels

they tell u yes/no/dont bother replying

if yes, they will ask for a master cdr copy, u sign contract, get test pressing when release time comes round, then a full release vinyl

not much too it really, may get royalties or advance if really good


Posted by gerrycueto on Feb-26-2005 18:12:

yeah, don't share your tracks for free (like me)... that's why a lot of labels reject me


Posted by Icone on Feb-26-2005 22:27:

I dunno if your tracks have to be REAL good. Sadly enough, getting to know the right people makes all the difference these days...

If you do want to get your tracks noticed, send them out to a few fine djs for example. Or start dj'ing yourself


Posted by Luke Terry on Feb-27-2005 00:07:

quote:
Originally posted by gerrycueto
yeah, don't share your tracks for free (like me)... that's why a lot of labels reject me




not necessarily true, it's generally an excuse to not sign a track.

for example haak - frenzy/pulling strings, vazim zhukov, etc.


Posted by gerrycueto on Feb-27-2005 00:29:

yeah big labels will sign it regardless, but smaller labels can't compete with the sharing.


Posted by msequence on Feb-27-2005 00:40:

why rely on someone else to sign you... sign yourself


Posted by Topher Jones on Feb-27-2005 06:36:

Sign yourself? I dont own a record label so how can I sign myself? Maybe I'm missing something....


Posted by gerrycueto on Feb-27-2005 07:38:

Don't ask us for tips on getting signed. We're NOT record labels *sarcastic tone*... Even the people here who are signed know that record labels are extremely unpredictable. Each label has a different standard to what they want, but I'll give you some basic tips tho, and elaborate on the simple remarks given. They're all true btw. just in a funny, smartass way.

quote:
making good tracks.


There's no one set way you gotta have your tracks in order to get label interest. Labels will sign tracks that are the absolute toilet yet they'll sign tracks that are great. Sometimes they ignore tracks that are great too because they don't think they will sell to their target audience.

quote:
tongue lots of ass and suck lots of dick


In other words, just be persistent. Do some bold stuff. Camp out in the label's headquarters if you have to or be like Robin Fox who came every week to Power 96's (a Miami radio station) studio nagging the DJ to play her song, "I See Stars". They turned her down everytime, until one day they were tired of her nagging , said "what the heck", played it, and it became a big hit. Obviously if her track was a flop, after one play on the radio, you'd never hear it again.

quote:
send mp3 links/cdrs to labels

they tell u yes/no/dont bother replying

if yes, they will ask for a master cdr copy, u sign contract, get test pressing when release time comes round, then a full release vinyl

not much too it really, may get royalties or advance if really good


Once you get noticed by the labels and get the contract, make sure you have an entertainment attorney look it over to make sure there's not some tricky wording in there so that they take advantage of you, and you get nothing out of it.

quote:
not necessarily true, it's generally an excuse to not sign a track.

for example haak - frenzy/pulling strings, vazim zhukov, etc


About not sharing your stuff, yeah Luke's right in a way, they could use that as an excuse not to sign your track, but sometimes it is true (especially for smaller labels), sharing (leaking) more imporantly than harming sales, can harm a track's reputation. If it's been shared for free, all the major DJs have played it on CD-R, and a vynil comes out 6 months later, no DJ will want to buy that vynil to play a track they've burned out 6 months ago. That's why you see a lot of producers on this forum post a 2 minute clip or a lo-fi version to get feedback, instead of posting an entire high-quality 192k+ track.

quote:
why rely on someone else to sign you... sign yourself


I'd have to disagree with Msequence. That's great if you've worked for another label and know the industry pretty well, but if you're a noob to music business, you're gonna get eaten alive by the sharks out there, and your label will fail. If you don't wanna take the route and sign to a label to learn from them. Take a business coarse. You don't have to be a producer to start a label. Hell, we all know that's true. We have big, corperate America as an example for that. Just to sum it up, don't start a label without knowing what you're going to need and get involved with. A label isn't like a "posse" or a "crew of artists". It's a lot more than that. Yeah, I'm looking at you, you underground "rap labels". Those aren't real labels. Just because you call yourself "DAHOTSHIT Records" and have a few rapper friends on it, but don't market shit, you're not a record company.


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Feb-27-2005 08:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Topher Jones
obviously your stuff has to be good but i was wondering what the process is like of sending things out and all that stuff


its not complicated, i dont know why so many people ask this. you email links to labels or send them a cd, if they like your track enough to sign it they will offer you a proposal. there is no step by step "how to get signed"


Posted by gerrycueto on Feb-27-2005 08:11:

hehe okay hats off to you Mike... exactly what I was trying to say, but you said it in 2 lines :P

there are steps tho

5 EASY STEPS TO GETTING SIGNED

1. contact the label
2. show them your track
3. if they like it they'll let you know and send you a contract
4. have entertainment attorney read/explain it, if you don't understand...
5. sign it


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Feb-27-2005 08:27:

quote:
Originally posted by gerrycueto
hehe okay hats off to you Mike... exactly what I was trying to say, but you said it in 2 lines :P

there are steps tho

5 EASY STEPS TO GETTING SIGNED

1. contact the label
2. show them your track
3. if they like it they'll let you know and send you a contract
4. have entertainment attorney read/explain it, if you don't understand...
5. sign it


yeha but all im saying is there is no "do the following and you WILL get signed" most of it is down to chance and/or the ability to make good tracks.


Posted by gerrycueto on Feb-27-2005 08:31:

Yeah, I agree, and my entire page essay agrees with that too. I just tried to cover every detail... so he won't ask us anything about records labels again. or at least I attempted to.

plus I'm only joking with that "yeah there are 5 easy steps" Might as well have fun in a thread we've seen too many times.


Posted by Topher Jones on Feb-28-2005 14:37:

Sorry if you've seen this thread "so many times". I searched for it and nothing came up so I posted about it. Thanks for the responses though. God bless.



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