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Posted by Orbax on Mar-01-2005 19:03:

Official Beginners guide to weight training.

I know most of you are aware of the WorkOut thread, but that is a rather large and has a long history. The guys in it have been doin this a while and a beginners question sometimes gets lost in the long posts and frenzy of replies. This is a Basic Guide for some Basic Body Types. More tailored ones can be made per request but for now this should help some of you, I hope

IMAGES PULLED FROM WWW.EXRX.NET, GREAT SITE!!

Body Type: Lean
Goal: Gain Mass

Routine 1:

DB press
1x 15 warmup
3x12



Seated rows
1x15 warmup
3x12



Machine fly
3x12



lat pulldowns
3x12



standing bent over reverse db flies
3x10



abs- hanging leg raises and kneeling rope crunches and side bends.

TILT HIPS FORWARD LIKE YOURE HUMPING itll help target entire ab area instead of just upper range. I like to sit a bit further back than this guy and be off my heels, but experiment and see what you like



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15 minute cardio warmup

Squats
1x15 warmup
3x12



seated calf raises (anything sitting and raising heels)
1x15 warmup
5x12



hamstring curls (DO THIS CAREFULLY easiest muscle to tear evar!!!)
1x15 warmup
3x12



Leg press machine
3x12



standing calf raises
5x12



Jasons assmaster thigh presses
3x15







same ab routine.

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15 minute cardio warmup

Arnold shoulder press
1x15 warmup
3x10




tricep rope pull down
1x15 warmup
3x12
Likethis but with a rope hehe:



bicep curls
1x15 warmup
3x10



one arm at a time shoulder lateral raises with dbs
3x12



rope pulldowns
3x12

same as other rope extensions

hammer curls
3x10
THIS but palms facing inward...like a hammer



abs same work out.


thatll give you three days of work outs...so 1 week of working out and just redo the cycle.

now focus on finding the right weight for all this that you can just barely finish the entire exercise with the weights...and remember you have an entire other round in about 15 minutes after your first exercise choose weight appropriately for the long hard burn. This usually means going lighter than you think, but test it out. Make sure you arent being a bitch about it though. They the next round wont be as good as your first but it WILL be close. You should be sweating and swearing in your mind and stuff (outloud people get annoyed ). This isnt easy but those longer sets of 12-15 instead of instead of 8-10 will utilize ALL your muscle strands. Not just the mass movement ones .

on your off days do 45 minutes of cardio at least. For serious bulking though.....no cardio!

other than that....go for it main thing is trying hard and not eating junk food and snacks and trying hard at this. Even if you dont feel like working out or are sore or whatever your excuse is, go in for at least 1 exercise. once your there youll do a whole routine hehe. just tell yourself "im goin in for abs then coming home" then get your ass to the gym. and even if thats all you do its still worth it.


Posted by Orbax on Mar-01-2005 19:09:

Body Type: Overweight/bulky
Goal: Leaning/toning

Youll notice its ALMOST the same but more sets and higher reps. That means: a lowering in weight! DRASTIC weight lowering. This is gonna kick your ass. Dont wait longer than 1.5 minutes between sets!!!

15 minute cardio warmup

DB press
1x 15 warmup
4x12

Seated rows
1x15 warmup
4x15

Machine fly
3x12

lat pulldowns
3x15

standing bent over reverse db flies
3x12

abs- hanging leg raises and kneeling rope crunches and side bends.

----------------
15 minute cardio warmup

Squats
1x15 warmup
4x15

seated calf raises
1x15 warmup
5x12

hamstring curls (DO THIS CAREFULLY easiest muscle to tear evar!!!)
1x15 warmup
4x15

Leg press machine
3x12

standing calf raises
5x12

Jasons assmaster thigh presses
3x15

same ab routine.

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15 minute cardio warmup

shoulder press
1x15 warmup
3x12

tricep rope pull down
1x15 warmup
4x12

bicep curls
1x15 warmup
4x15

one arm at a time shoulder lateral raises with dbs
3x12

rope pulldowns
3x12

hammer curls
3x10

abs same work out.


on off days do 30min-1 hour of cardio so about 2x-3x a week


Posted by Yan on Mar-01-2005 19:11:

Very great thread idea and workout plans! I personally have my own which consists of swimming a lot and then working out minimal.

Anyways, I'd just like to add that locking your elbows and knees while doing some of those excersizes is very dangerous and can lead to pain and injury. BE AWARE OF THIS.


Posted by Orbax on Mar-01-2005 19:15:

Body Type: Overweight/girl (no offense)
Goal: extreme leaning and toning

Day 1:

5 sets of 15 reps of incline db flies
WITH PALMS IN and elbows pretty much locked at 65 degree. point of a fly is to bring arm across chest so try not to throw shoulders into it. Youll feel it RIGHT in middle of chest if youre doing it right!!

5 sets of 15 reps of seated rows
5 sets of 15 reps of flat bench dumbell press
5 sets of 15 reps of lat pull downs
5 sets of 15 reps of squats
5 sets of 15 reps of bent over reverse db flies

5 sets of 15 reps of hamstring curls (seated leg curls)
5 sets of 12 reps of Kneeling rope crunches

Day 2:

5 sets of 15 reps dumb bell bicep curls
5 sets of 15 reps tricep rope pull downs
5 sets of 15 reps lateral db shoulder raises in first post its the one arm at a time in front of you )
5 sets of 15 reps dumb bell bicep curls
5 sets of 15 reps tricep rope pulldowns
5 sets of 15 reps machine shoulder press
5 sets of 15 reps of Kneeling rope crunches

Day 3 1 hour of Cardio
Running: 900 cal an hour
Jogging: 400 cal an hour
Swimming: 700 cal an hour
5 sets of 15 reps of cable crunches


Day 4: Chest, back, legs work out
Day 5: Cardio
Day 6: Rest

The next week will start with the ARMS workout and then chest and then arms...then week after that chest arms chest...ad infinitum/nasueum


Posted by Orbax on Mar-01-2005 19:18:

Yan is exactly right never Lock your joints!!! takes muscles off and puts all pressures on tendons and ligaments not good!

also!!! Go on the basic COUNTING premise of lift explosively and let it back down over TWO SECONDS. never let it come to full rest, muscles should always be working!!!


so biceps: curl UP hard! 1 one thousand two one thousand as you go back down

Squats: Stand up explosively!!!! sink back down slowly


THIS WILL LOWER YOUR WEIGHT!! this isnt a pissing contest do your appropriate weight for the love of God, youll look better and get better gains and get Stronger quicker!


Posted by mezzir on Mar-01-2005 19:19:

you rule dude, 1st one's exactly what i was lookin for
seems like most of the gym machine ones shouldn't be too hard to change for someone who just has weights?


Posted by Orbax on Mar-01-2005 19:54:

The counts on these are important too. As you are pushing the weight (curling, standing from a squat, pressing off your chest for bench)

movement should pretty much be as fast as you can do it while controlling it. The negative should be a 1 one thousand 2 one thousand count down. IT WILL LOWER YOUR WEIGHTS! but it isnt about weight! its about doin it right and gettin good form and strength gains out of it properly. Its faster and better in the long run.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Mar-01-2005 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
The counts on these are important too. As you are pushing the weight (curling, standing from a squat, pressing off your chest for bench)

movement should pretty much be as fast as you can do it while controlling it. The negative should be a 1 one thousand 2 one thousand count down. IT WILL LOWER YOUR WEIGHTS! but it isnt about weight! its about doin it right and gettin good form and strength gains out of it properly. Its faster and better in the long run.



This is true.. if your a total n00b at working out though

i would suggest using the machines to mimic those excercises.. as if you dont have someone with you it will be very difficult to see ifyour doing the proper form


Machines are good since they isolate for specific muscle groups and let you worry less about control. A very good way to get started with form


Posted by Clovis on Mar-01-2005 19:59:

What kind of other exercises can #1 be combined with?


Posted by Orbax on Mar-01-2005 20:02:

NRG: aye, i think should at least 50/50 mix though cuz those stabilizers are hard to get from machines.

Clovis: If you do that routine and think you can do more chest or back that day lemme know its a chest/back, arms, legs split up so they are all pretty self contained in what you should be able to accomplish for that set.


Posted by Clovis on Mar-01-2005 20:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
NRG: aye, i think should at least 50/50 mix though cuz those stabilizers are hard to get from machines.

Clovis: If you do that routine and think you can do more chest or back that day lemme know its a chest/back, arms, legs split up so they are all pretty self contained in what you should be able to accomplish for that set.


Well like...what if I want to run or swim in conjunction with that? Or will that kill me already?


Posted by Orbax on Mar-01-2005 20:17:

oh, go for it. I wouldnt do more than 30 min of cardio on weight days cuz your body runs out of fuel (Glycogen) and it stops being productive for you to do it. Im running to the gym today


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-01-2005 20:20:

nice work orb...


Posted by Nabistai on Mar-01-2005 20:43:

Damn, I made me list of exercices for nothing

No no, very nice work

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
so biceps: curl UP hard! 1 one thousand two one thousand as you go back down




quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
The negative should be a 1 one thousand 2 one thousand count down.


I really don't understand this sentence


BTW tomorrow is me first day at the gym


Posted by Masonious on Mar-01-2005 20:46:

Hell yeah Nabis! And on the 1 one-thousand, 2 one-thousand piece. That's referring to how long it should take you to uncurl your arms (just say "one one-thousand, two one-thousand" to yourself to get the idea.

Have fun at the gym tomorrow man


Posted by trance85 on Mar-01-2005 20:48:

Any free weight recommendations? (something I wouldn't have to go to gym for?)


Posted by Falcon-X on Mar-01-2005 20:49:

I just have 1 question, your programme is pretty diversified everyday.

Currently I've been doing :
Day 1. Pecs Biceps
Day 2. Legs and 40 mins cardio
Day 3. Triceps fore-arms
Day 4. Shoulders Back

Also I usually do 8 reps

and around 15-20 mins cardio everyday and abs

Now do you suggest mixing this up or is it better sticking to a seperate program like that where I maximise on seperate muscles.


Posted by Nabistai on Mar-01-2005 21:07:

So one more small question When you say 3x10, how long is there between the sets? And how long should you wait do do another exercice?


Posted by eckmek on Mar-01-2005 21:36:

Thumbs up

I just started working out like a week ago and i'm a total noob. This is some nice info.

You rule Orbax


Posted by bass drive on Mar-01-2005 21:43:

newbie question

is it true that "back lat pulldowns" is bad for the spine?


Posted by Orbax on Mar-01-2005 22:59:

whoa!

Nabistai: ok so yeah Mason answered it pretty much. Its called positive when you CONTRACT the muscle. that is pulling or pushing a weight. the negative is when you RELAX the muscle and let it go back to a "rest" state. Negatives are as important, if not more so than the positives. There is an entire workout you can do on just negatives alone and a lot of people do it in later stages to help gain strength. So Positive is an explosive movement, as hard as you can can CONTROLLABLY, and negative is a slow 2 second countdown

Falcon: The bench press uses biceps, triceps, pecs, and shoulders. This is why I have split bench days into a Chest/back day. The next day is Biceps, triceps, shoulders as any other exercise you do will invariably use them. The next day is Legs because you can spend 2 hours on legs because they are so massive and fast to recover. This is what shwarzenegger said to do, and after trying variations, I gotta agree with him

Nabistai (again) : Between sets you should wait no longer than 3 minutes, and if you are trying to burn fat off, id say 45 breaths (about a minute). The more aerobic the more fat. The more anaerobic, the more energy youll get back (after 3 min youll get all that youre gonna get back, back) and youll be more intense and itll help bulk more.

Bass Drive: Not at all! Never heard that before! Its only bad if you do an uncontrolled negative and let it jerk you around! I rep 120lbs and start off with 90 as a warm up. Its a hard muscle to work out so do it right!


Posted by Orbax on Mar-01-2005 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by eckmek
I just started working out like a week ago and i'm a total noob. This is some nice info.

You rule Orbax


Thanks man! Glad people are interested in this Its something I love and love learning about still hehe.

Today I had to find someone and ask how to do T-Bar rows, i had no idea! They ruled though and i think im in love with them lol. You always got something to learn there!


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-01-2005 23:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
Thanks man! Glad people are interested in this Its something I love and love learning about still hehe.

Today I had to find someone and ask how to do T-Bar rows, i had no idea! They ruled though and i think im in love with them lol. You always got something to learn there!


man i always forget about t-bar rows hehehe...great exercise for the mass building


Posted by Orbax on Mar-01-2005 23:04:

yeah my first time ever was great!


Posted by Falcon-X on Mar-01-2005 23:33:

Add this, I love this exercice, since you do something else than just lifting weights, and then when you get good enough, you can add some weight with a belt.


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