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Posted by Psionic on Mar-04-2005 02:32:

Banging prog tunes that go/mix well together

What progressive tunes do you guys know of that mix well together, have the same harmonic key or can be mixed harmonically, that are just plain banging. To give you an idea of some more recent stuff I like:

Hydroponix - Don't Stop Go (Mirabeau Main Room Remix)
Minilogue - In A Deeper Motion
Chable & Bonnici - Ride (King Unique Remix)
Sander Kleinenberg - The Fruit (Buick Project Remix)
PQM - Nameless (Chab Mix 2)
Deep Dish - Flashdance (Hoxton Whores Remix)


Posted by DJ Intrigue on Mar-04-2005 03:00:

I'll post a few, but I don't want to give away too much of my upcoming dj mix tracklists, which I hope to post soon on here as soon as I have some time.

Medway - Resurrection
Chris Fortier - Losing Wait (Deep Dub)
Echomen - Havana

Jerry Bonham - Seventh Seal (Original Mix)
Andy Moor pres... Sworn - Dark Amendments (Attraction Vocal)
Hamel & Rosario - Disco Volante

Chris & Kai - Suffocation (The Relentless Dub)
Fusion feat. Matt Hardwick - Resistance (Steve Porter Remix)
Fade - Light To Motion

Circulation - Orange (Mix 2)
Datar - U (Tarrentella vs. Redanka Instrumental)
Morel - Funny Car (Pappa & Gilbey Dub)

GPal presents GHOS - Moon Rising (Atmospheric Mix)
Pappa & Gilbey - Twisted (Darko Remix)
Sunkissed - Round Trip (Steve Porter Remix)


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-04-2005 04:07:

Re: Banging prog tunes that go/mix well together

quote:
Originally posted by TruffleShuffle
What progressive tunes do you guys know of that mix well together, have the same harmonic key or can be mixed harmonically, that are just plain banging. To give you an idea of some more recent stuff I like:

Hydroponix - Don't Stop Go (Mirabeau Main Room Remix)
Minilogue - In A Deeper Motion
Chable & Bonnici - Ride (King Unique Remix)
Sander Kleinenberg - The Fruit (Buick Project Remix)
PQM - Nameless (Chab Mix 2)
Deep Dish - Flashdance (Hoxton Whores Remix)



no offence but mixing isn't a fuckin science, if u want to look @ harmonic mixing look at all the bs in the dj booth forum. A good dj should be able to put just about any 2 tracks together, wether they are or arnt the same key...

you must have a lot of free time


Posted by TheKidsWantTechno on Mar-04-2005 04:24:

Re: Re: Banging prog tunes that go/mix well together

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
no offence but mixing isn't a fuckin science, if u want to look @ harmonic mixing look at all the bs in the dj booth forum. A good dj should be able to put just about any 2 tracks together, wether they are or arnt the same key...

you must have a lot of free time
wrong. thats y dj's key their tracks son. cause some songs dont go together at al o

nachos here too


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-04-2005 04:45:

Re: Re: Re: Banging prog tunes that go/mix well together

quote:
Originally posted by ATL_Trancer
wrong. thats y dj's key their tracks son. cause some songs dont go together at al o

nachos here too



, your wrong


Posted by Ory on Mar-04-2005 04:50:

Re: Re: Re: Banging prog tunes that go/mix well together

quote:
Originally posted by ATL_Trancer
wrong. thats y dj's key their tracks son. cause some songs dont go together at al o

nachos here too


I agree kind of, but I think it's kind of lame to write down the key of every track on the sleeve. It should be spontaneous, DJs should know their tracks dammit.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-04-2005 04:54:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Banging prog tunes that go/mix well together

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
I agree kind of, but I think it's kind of lame to write down the key of every track on the sleeve. It should be spontaneous, DJs should know their tracks dammit.



its not even about knowing/keying...its a lot of subconsious thinking...

like when i spin, at first the tracks may not really fit well, but after like an hour, i will just seemingly pick tracks that work well...


im sure most djs know what im talking about...


djing is a art, you think the best artists go and label everything before they do it? or do they just go with the flow?


Posted by Ory on Mar-04-2005 05:02:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Banging prog tunes that go/mix well together

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
its not even about knowing/keying...its a lot of subconsious thinking...

like when i spin, at first the tracks may not really fit well, but after like an hour, i will just seemingly pick tracks that work well...


im sure most djs know what im talking about...


djing is a art, you think the best artists go and label everything before they do it? or do they just go with the flow?


Yeah. You can make a science out of it, but that just ruins the feel. We're not robots.


Posted by Psionic on Mar-04-2005 11:34:

Ok instead of asking for harmonic keys since that seems to cause a lot of arguing here what if I just ask for tunes that have a similar feel to the ones I listed.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-04-2005 16:13:

quote:
Originally posted by TruffleShuffle
Ok instead of asking for harmonic keys since that seems to cause a lot of arguing here what if I just ask for tunes that have a similar feel to the ones I listed.



there is a thread floating around within the past 5 days(i tihnk) that has a long list of deep twisted bangin prog


Posted by Psiweaver on Mar-04-2005 19:09:

everyone needs to just cool down.


Posted by UWM on Mar-04-2005 19:09:

[Fodder]

Armin writes keys on all his records

[/Fodder]


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-04-2005 19:17:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
[Fodder]

Armin writes keys on all his records

[/Fodder]


why do u think people say "trance" aka armin's tracks all sound the same??

coincidence???


Posted by Psionic on Mar-04-2005 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
there is a thread floating around within the past 5 days(i tihnk) that has a long list of deep twisted bangin prog


Do you know where it is? What the title of the thread is?


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-04-2005 21:42:

no but u seem polite, ill try and look for it...


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-04-2005 21:48:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...highlight=opera


Posted by Tweak on Mar-04-2005 22:33:

Re: Re: Re: Banging prog tunes that go/mix well together

quote:
Originally posted by ATL_Trancer
wrong. thats y dj's key their tracks son. cause some songs dont go together at al o

nachos here too


I have to agree here. I've made quite a few compilations, and sometimes you come across a couple of tracks that just do not work together, no matter how hard you try. Ususally it's the kicks don't compliment, but other things go wrong too.


Posted by kernkraft on Mar-04-2005 23:45:

Most tracks can fit together quite perfect, the others you are going to detect very soon... I think there should be no science about DJing (keys, bpm etc. fitting together), the tracks should better flow right out of your heart...

Track selection is so much more important than mixing skills, just look at Blank & Jones (although i dont like them very much), they are mostly successful because of their pure trance sound... their mixing is quite bad, most of us could do it better, i think. But their tracks go straight to your heart, you simply will remember them as Djs who really touched you.

Same thing with PvD. He is a true "fast mixer", his sets have a lot of energy, even if his mixing is not as good as progressive Djs could do it... but his track selection will definitely make you freak out, he is in my opinion by far the best DJ of the world, better than tiesto and AvB, simply because of his straightforwardness, his perfectness and his very own sound/track selection. No one else is able to combine for example tilt's progressive and chris liebing's hardcore techno tracks in one set like he does.

All sets which sound distinctively are not these who are mixed obeying the track's keys... So just search tracks which sound good, combine them in a good order and mix them agreeablely, not too boring... Its much more important than being able to mix boring tracks completely perfect.

Who agrees?


Posted by Tweak on Mar-05-2005 01:16:

well you have a point there, but really...what dj would spin tracks they think are boring? Boring is different to different people....I find a lot of PVDs selections boring, for example.


Posted by JasonThomas on Mar-05-2005 01:56:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Banging prog tunes that go/mix well together

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
its not even about knowing/keying...its a lot of subconsious thinking...

like when i spin, at first the tracks may not really fit well, but after like an hour, i will just seemingly pick tracks that work well...


im sure most djs know what im talking about...


djing is a art, you think the best artists go and label everything before they do it? or do they just go with the flow?


At first I thought 'cmon man keying records and knowing what tunes will sound good together is what makes a good dj' but then you say this and I realize I can't do that at all. I wish I could, but I can't even key melodies that well. But when I get into the groove a mix, I also, get a subconcious feeling of what melody or beat should come next
And this only comes with knowing your tracks well.

I've tried in the past writing tracks down that go well together, but It just didn't stick.

I thought that in order to be a good dj like tiesto you gotta play the same tracks together repeatedly. lol such is not the case...

(not to knock tiesto too much, he's still the man! )


Posted by beats and beeps on Mar-05-2005 02:54:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Banging prog tunes that go/mix well together

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
Yeah. You can make a science out of it, but that just ruins the feel. We're not robots.

Speak for yourself man.


Posted by PersianMafia on Mar-05-2005 08:19:

I got a question for your djs that write down the keys and harmonically mix. When you change the pitch to control the bpm, doesn't that change the speed of the song, which changes the pitch which ultimately changes the key of the song? I've never understood harmonic mixing, even though I've heard it many times on various sets.


Posted by auujay on Mar-05-2005 09:21:

quote:
Originally posted by PersianMafia
I got a question for your djs that write down the keys and harmonically mix. When you change the pitch to control the bpm, doesn't that change the speed of the song, which changes the pitch which ultimately changes the key of the song? I've never understood harmonic mixing, even though I've heard it many times on various sets.


Yes it does, you have to take it into consideration.


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Mar-05-2005 09:30:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Banging prog tunes that go/mix well together

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
Speak for yourself man.

lol

mixing in key is great, sure, but if u try and mix every track in key with the last your guna be limited to what u can play and when u can play it, if you're putting that before anything else then you are making big sacrifices as a dj. a good dj can mix pretty much any 2 tracks together smoothly, as already stated.


Posted by Mike_Foyle on Mar-05-2005 09:34:

quote:
Originally posted by PersianMafia
I got a question for your djs that write down the keys and harmonically mix. When you change the pitch to control the bpm, doesn't that change the speed of the song, which changes the pitch which ultimately changes the key of the song? I've never understood harmonic mixing, even though I've heard it many times on various sets.


usually if you stick to a similar genre when you mix, the bpms will only vary by 1 - 3 bpm, which doesnt make too much of a difference (maybe half a semitone) which actually sounds quite cool in some places because the track is still pretty much the same key but there is a slight difference, not quite enough to clash, and it still glides together nicely and sounds in key. of course if your tlakingabout pitching a record up by like 5 bpm your guna change the picth a whole lot.. but usually its not a problem really. but yeah something to take into account i guess. ive never conciously bothered with harmonic mixing, never felt the need to, and still once in a while youll find 2 tracks which are in key, so great, it doesnt have to be every mix though


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