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Get off the freaking Ban Wagon already

Not sure if it's Ban or Band Wagon, but oh well...

This was inspired by another thread that I had to comment on,

I swear to God that people are really just hoping on the "Ban" Wagon about classic songs being re-released!

Once someone hears that a classic trance track has been released, the forums are filled with people badmouthing whoever remixed the tune and consistently flaming the fact that this HANIS act has been committed!

I firmly believe that people gotta start listening to tracks before they start flaming them. I've heard some OUTSTANDING remixes of classic tracks that some just put down because they can't believe that thier favorite tracks sound.... different!

Grow up

Re: Get off the freaking Ban Wagon already

You're missing the point. All these remakes indicate one thing: that the industry no longer can be bothered to sign fresh, new material, and resort to recycling old hits instead since it saves them time and money. This is the main complaint about all these remakes, and it reached its nadir when Adjusted decided to recycle a track that isn't even 3 years old.

The other thing is of course that almost all of the remakes are pure shit, but that's another story.

Mortyman i love u.

I dont agree with what u said.

i have liked some of the remakes a lot, eg ferry's rmx of synaesthesia, but so many are totally unnecessary... as proven by the subsequent remixes

Well, there's also the fact that a LOT of people werent listening to trance back in the golden era, so there's new material and old for those new (ish) to trance...

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Originally posted by Simcut Well, there's also the fact that a LOT of people werent listening to trance back in the golden era, so there's new material and old for those new (ish) to trance...

Then they could just repress the classics instead of ruining them with pointless remixes. Bonzai have been doing that with Backcatalogue for instance.

Re: Get off the freaking Ban Wagon already

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Originally posted by Mortyman Not sure if it's Ban or Band Wagon, but oh well... This was inspired by another thread that I had to comment on, I swear to God that people are really just hoping on the "Ban" Wagon about classic songs being re-released! Once someone hears that a classic trance track has been released, the forums are filled with people badmouthing whoever remixed the tune and consistently flaming the fact that this HANIS act has been committed! I firmly believe that people gotta start listening to tracks before they start flaming them. I've heard some OUTSTANDING remixes of classic tracks that some just put down because they can't believe that thier favorite tracks sound.... different! Grow up

guess what, your wrong

What is HANIS?

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Originally posted by Protege What is HANIS?

i thought it was bootleg underwear at first but it's 'heinous'

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Originally posted by Konijn i thought it was bootleg underwear at first but it's 'heinous'

i just picked up a pair on canal street, 2 for a dollar, and only 1 stain!

some of the remixes were quite good

but most were utter shit

Personally, I just spin the classics myself, and ignore the new releases.

However, it it bugs you folks so much, why spend so much time on them, when you could be looking for new music? Just becuase a few huge hits have been rereleased doesn't mean you have to pay any attention to them. If you don't like them, don't publicize them in a public forum.

Vote with your words and your pocket book, as these labels are simply producing what will sell. They have to eat too, you know, and if they know they;ll be eating better by producing new stuff than rehashing the old, then they will do so. Simple as that.

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Originally posted by Solkanar512 Personally, I just spin the classics myself, and ignore the new releases. However, it it bugs you folks so much, why spend so much time on them, when you could be looking for new music? Just becuase a few huge hits have been rereleased doesn't mean you have to pay any attention to them. If you don't like them, don't publicize them in a public forum. Vote with your words and your pocket book, as these labels are simply producing what will sell. They have to eat too, you know, and if they know they;ll be eating better by producing new stuff than rehashing the old, then they will do so. Simple as that.

Congrats, you just nailed one of the biggest reasons for trance being shit nowadays on the head.

I agree with Sand Leaper and others - most of the time the labels are just after cash, and the vast majority of the "new" remixes of classics that i have heard are pure crap.

i just haven't heard that many remakes that have been worth shit...most are done by some shitty producer that really has no business even attempting to make dance music let alone remaking a classic...

only good remake i've heard in a while is...

The KLF - What Time Is Love? (Tricknology Mix)

now that is a great update to a classic tune...

I fully agree with Sand Leaper, now and then theres a remake thats good, but most are shit, they need to stop bringing back shit remixes of good ol tracks and make new tracks that are fresh and original.

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Originally posted by DannyO I fully agree with Sand Leaper, now and then theres a remake thats good, but most are shit, they need to stop bringing back shit remixes of good ol tracks and make new tracks that are fresh and original.

Yep. However, therein lies another problem. With Trance becoming this thing where everyone wants to get onto ASOT, they all stick with the tried-and-tested format, which has quickly become old. They want the fame, and they want everyone to cream their pants, so attempting anything new is out of the question for many producers.

*sigh* i'm soo sick about hearing about how trance is dead why don't we talk about ways to fix it instead.

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Originally posted by Solkanar512 Personally, I just spin the classics myself, and ignore the new releases. However, it it bugs you folks so much, why spend so much time on them, when you could be looking for new music? Just becuase a few huge hits have been rereleased doesn't mean you have to pay any attention to them. If you don't like them, don't publicize them in a public forum. Vote with your words and your pocket book, as these labels are simply producing what will sell. They have to eat too, you know, and if they know they;ll be eating better by producing new stuff than rehashing the old, then they will do so. Simple as that.

how very true. agreed.

+1.

The good thing about these updated versions is that it brings new life into the OLD versions.

People are playing MOgwai - Viola 2005 but thhat means i can now play the original Armin Van Buuren remix.

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Originally posted by Jake Conlon People are playing MOgwai - Viola 2005 but thhat means i can now play the original Armin Van Buuren remix.

what the?

nobody said you couldn't play the ol'skool mixes unless a 2005 mix was released.

just drop those classics mate. they're classics, the crowd will love em even if they've never heard of em before.

btw, it's "bandwagon". and NO.

i still play em but if you ply the classics week in week out it gets samey samey but if they release new versions you can play the classics as much as you like.

the breakdwon in the armin remix of viola is to die for

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Originally posted by eRRaTiK what the? nobody said you couldn't play the ol'skool mixes unless a 2005 mix was released. just drop those classics mate. they're classics, the crowd will love em even if they've never heard of em before. btw, it's "bandwagon". and NO.

What he's trying to say is that, through the Viola 2005 mixes, it makes you wanna play the older versions as well, therefore bringing the classics to the newschool people :-)

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Originally posted by Psiweaver *sigh* i'm soo sick about hearing about how trance is dead why don't we talk about ways to fix it instead.

We are. Just nobody wants to hear about it.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper We are. Just nobody wants to hear about it.

I do!

im all for saving trance.

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