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Posted by Shepless on Mar-06-2005 14:56:

Read This! Delerium - After All (Chris Shepherd Acoustic Mix)

Hey guys!

This isnt trance, but I thought you might like to hear it anyway

My suggestion is to listen all the way through to get the full effect, as I tried to make it build up all the way through the track!

Delerium - After All (Chris Shepherds Acoustic Mix)

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All feedback is welcomed

Cheers,

Shep


Posted by Klangzentrum on Mar-06-2005 15:00:

this is some sweet stuff, mate!

what did you use 2 produce it?


Posted by Crash on Mar-06-2005 15:22:

wow really nice, altough i would like to hear the vocal a little bit more in the intro, kinda quiet.

otherwise i think its really lovely.


EDIT: ok now i listened it thru a couple of times and i think the build up ideas is nice but im not sure if it works.

I would like to hear a more defined builup to the what i call, MAIN PART of the song, and then fade out a little slower.


if you catch my drift.


Posted by DRM on Mar-06-2005 17:14:

i cant stop playing this u raging homo. absolutly love it. all the sounds are well defined and the mastering is spot on now i really like the idea of the track building constantly too. could possibly have a slight longer outro but thats not really a problem.

keep it up you monkey


Posted by Luke Terry on Mar-06-2005 17:18:



thanks for abusing my space

top quality stuff man


Posted by _Marco_ on Mar-06-2005 18:06:

Thumbs up

awesome man the sound quality is just amazing


Posted by Mycron on Mar-06-2005 18:12:

hey Chris,

as i already told you on MSN, this is very cool, im really into it,
love the guitar in it,

keep 'em coming!

btw, please, don't forget working on our collaboration!

damnit!

cheers,

Peter


Posted by TOR on Mar-06-2005 19:04:

this is awesome


Posted by Ian on Mar-06-2005 20:08:

Nice stuff dude Mike told me about it and now i've heard it, well, it's sweet as fuck


Posted by gerrycueto on Mar-07-2005 00:38:

man this is damn cool... one complaint is that for an acoustic song I think there is too much compression applied... for goodness sake it's an acoustic song, it should sound as realistic as possible... that means having some natural dynamics like in a real acoustical setting but maybe you didn't want it to sound realiistic... I dono heh it's your mix .. so it's up to you. Sometimes the vocals go off beat... I think you should have a metronome while you beatmatch the vocals... at least that's how I beatmatch vocals when I'm doing a remix.

Agh! another complaint... don't like the delay... on the vocals added later on... x_X but I love the instrumental part afterwards... If you have a dub of this it would be much better!! the vocals ruin it for me.


Posted by Luke Terry on Mar-07-2005 00:41:



grr shep i just had to swap all the directories round u pleb


Posted by Dj Radman on Mar-07-2005 01:05:

wow, this is quite diferent. Still pretty cool idea, i think the vocal would sound better if you could get it without the vocoder effect, but thats just personal opinion on that, sounds fresh dude great stuff


Posted by Sunquest on Mar-07-2005 03:39:

this is great stuff shep, i luv it, finally some good vocals to listen to thanks for sharing


Posted by EtherealSL on Mar-07-2005 03:48:

wow, this is very very cool stuff (this could make a cool intro track for a set)

i am not liking the delay on the guitar. and the constnat kick doesn't fit, imo... would be cool if you brought in the slow breakbeat earlier in the song. also, i agree with the delay on the vocals, sounds a little excessive

keep it up, sounding great


Posted by Gladius on Mar-07-2005 10:00:

wow, this is really beautiful, but I agree with the delay on the vocals.


Posted by Icone on Mar-07-2005 16:39:

Great stuff mate, long time no hear from you

When can we hear some new trance from you?

Cheers,
Wim


Posted by INDY on Mar-07-2005 16:41:

wow meow great job!!! stumbled upon this today while surfing the amateur section. i particulary love the melody at the end! HOLY MACARONI GOOSEBUMPS!!!

keep up the great work!

indy


Posted by dbl on Mar-07-2005 16:50:

sounds really nice.. i like it


Posted by M-X on Mar-07-2005 17:26:

u know what i think about this bud, its quality.

get that prog remix we were talking about and u'll be laughing.


Posted by DJ Sarah H on Mar-07-2005 21:14:



WOW!!

Chris, this is amazing, what a superb version of After All.

I've heard about 150 mixes of this track because of the Delerium - After All comp a while back and dood, this is easily the best version i've heard of it. amazing stuff!

and oh, i've sent it to Rhys Fulber for him to give it a listen to.


Posted by DJ-Kreing^^ on Mar-07-2005 21:29:

That is huge man!
I love the dark atmosphere and the acoustic guitar thought at some points it sounds like the vocals are a bit out of place. To tell you the truth except for the vocals it has nothing in common with the original tune. If I were you I would get some new vocals that will fit better with the rhythm and melody and make a whole new song.
The beginning reminds me abit of Pink Floyd heh�


Posted by A83 on Mar-07-2005 21:32:

3:00



OWN


Posted by Shepless on Mar-07-2005 21:56:

Read This!

WOW! Been away for the last few days...

Thanks for all the kind words guys and gals! Ill try and work on a few aspects and also a proggie mix

Oh and it was going to be all acoustic bit with out the drums it sounded very empty, and to make the drums shine through i had to really compress the whole mix...so it isnt really acoustic anymore :S lol


but thanks again

Shep


Posted by gerrycueto on Mar-07-2005 22:19:

still is too compressed for an acoustic tune... it could have been done better... yeah, it sounds like you did it the fast route... did you filter the guitar? or anything for that matter? sometimes a great acoustic track can be polished up with a little bit of minor EQing... instead of having to add great deal of processing...

Most people haven't commented about it because they are listening to the track with dance music ears, and dance music is heavily compressed, but if an acoustic rock person were to hear it, he'd have to agree that the track is too compressed for the genre, or compressed with the wrong settings.

The track is great don't get me wrong, but the vocals just don't go. Autotuned tech vocals never mixed well with laidback acoustic rock, and probably never will...If you wanna keep the acoustic feel and the techy vocals, I'd suggest listening to Top40 radio. Usually in the techy vocoder verses, you'll hear a synthpop type of beat, and when the natural chorus comes on, the track switches to instruments that rely on live musicians...

The delay effects on the vocals are extremely superfluous... Why did you put them?

A metronome is extremely key when producing any kind of remix especially to an EDM track. The vocals seem to dodge the time of the track... I know you were trying to be realistic, but in this case you should have stuck to a locked computer time. In a live band session, the vocalist must always follow what the players are doing, when they slow down, he/she must slow doing their singing as well, same goes with speeding up, so must the players fit with what the vocalist is singing... This interdependance the players and singers have among each other is what makes a good band. What I hear here sounds like if the vocalist is doing her time, and you're just doing yours. Remixing is as legitimate an artorm as playing in a band, you've gotta find that common ground between your music and the song you're remixing. You've got to put the original artist's vision into perspective as well as putting yours. Remixing isn't about taking a song and doing whatever you want to it, in an attempt to make your remix more important than the original song.

I don't see how an acoustic remix can be impossible for this song. I believe it can be done, but you've failed to see Delerium's perspective, that's why this track failed as a remix. Although would be great as an instrumental... or with original vocals for that matter.


Posted by DRM on Mar-08-2005 02:07:

quote:
Originally posted by gerrycueto
still is too compressed for an acoustic tune... it could have been done better... yeah, it sounds like you did it the fast route... did you filter the guitar? or anything for that matter? sometimes a great acoustic track can be polished up with a little bit of minor EQing... instead of having to add great deal of processing...

Most people haven't commented about it because they are listening to the track with dance music ears, and dance music is heavily compressed, but if an acoustic rock person were to hear it, he'd have to agree that the track is too compressed for the genre, or compressed with the wrong settings.

The track is great don't get me wrong, but the vocals just don't go. Autotuned tech vocals never mixed well with laidback acoustic rock, and probably never will...If you wanna keep the acoustic feel and the techy vocals, I'd suggest listening to Top40 radio. Usually in the techy vocoder verses, you'll hear a synthpop type of beat, and when the natural chorus comes on, the track switches to instruments that rely on live musicians...

The delay effects on the vocals are extremely superfluous... Why did you put them?

A metronome is extremely key when producing any kind of remix especially to an EDM track. The vocals seem to dodge the time of the track... I know you were trying to be realistic, but in this case you should have stuck to a locked computer time. In a live band session, the vocalist must always follow what the players are doing, when they slow down, he/she must slow doing their singing as well, same goes with speeding up, so must the players fit with what the vocalist is singing... This interdependance the players and singers have among each other is what makes a good band. What I hear here sounds like if the vocalist is doing her time, and you're just doing yours. Remixing is as legitimate an artorm as playing in a band, you've gotta find that common ground between your music and the song you're remixing. You've got to put the original artist's vision into perspective as well as putting yours. Remixing isn't about taking a song and doing whatever you want to it, in an attempt to make your remix more important than the original song.

I don't see how an acoustic remix can be impossible for this song. I believe it can be done, but you've failed to see Delerium's perspective, that's why this track failed as a remix. Although would be great as an instrumental... or with original vocals for that matter.


im not being funny but wot a load of aristocratic bullshit!

i know ur only trying to be nice in ur whole comment but that is the biggest load of pompous wank ive ever seen on these forums. ffs the guy isnt part of Delerium so no he doesnt have a grasp of wot the fuck they doing to the song and the lyrics in the first place. All Chris did was take the lyrics and make them into a different tune. and all you've come across as in that post is an arrogant little ****.


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