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Posted by Lira on Mar-07-2005 14:23:

Rollerskates vs. skateboard

I've been thinking about getting either a skateboard or rollerskates (hence the title). So, could someone help me out? I live in a really plain city and I'd be looking forward to using them both for doing tricks and, naturally, going to places.

I'm a complete noob, by the way.


Posted by jp on Mar-07-2005 14:24:

Inline-skates


Posted by Jackson on Mar-07-2005 14:26:

I used to agrresive skate, Its good fun. Get some friends together and you gand have a roller hockey match
D-res blades aswell i think.
Dont go for skateboards, round here anyone with a skateboard is automatically labelled a Good Charlotte lover, dont think you want the hassel.


Posted by Acton on Mar-07-2005 14:49:

get a pogo stick


Posted by Wildfir3 on Mar-07-2005 14:53:

I'd go for skates too, cause it's easier to learn...
Unless u've got some friends who're gonna try skateboarding with you, you'll pretty much get bored quickly and give up.

I'm an aggressive skater myself, so i'm no skateboard-elitist or something trying to say skateboarding is harder. It just IS harder


Posted by nrjizer on Mar-07-2005 15:13:

I aggressive skate, I think it's just a lot more fun than skateboarding. Yes, it's definately easier to pick up, but you can make it as difficult as you like. I don't see any skateboarders doing 540s and 720s into grinds. No hate, though, they do crazy shit too. But you just can't make that argument.

Now, if you're gonna get blades and plan to do tricks and shit, there's a lot of options available. My personal favorite skate is Remedyz, they simply fit and skate the best. USD Thrones are probably the next best bet, plus they have a hard shell and are about indestructable. Razors has some nice skates, but in personal experience, they have no heel lock. Drives me crazy. Salomon also makes a very solid skate, probably #2 in comfort.

One skate you might want to consider though is the Xsjado (shadow). They're a new brand, look weird and take a lot of shit, but they seem to be very solid skates. I couldn't tell you from personal experience - however, I skated with Tom Hyser recently (very old school skater, runs Skatepile and has designed a lot of skates), he has them and loves them... and he obviously has his pick of the litter. Basically, the skate comes with their own shoes (they call em footwraps, it's kind of like a rock climbing shoe) that you wear around wherever... then you strap your foot down into the skate. Kind of an odd concept but it works, and if you're gonna be going around town and shit it might be easier for you. You wouldn't have to carry around another pair of shoes. Plus they're suited best for skating odd/unique obstacles (mostly because of their frame), and since you live in a plain town, this might also be a plus.

Btw, whatever you do, make sure you get a skate size that is good and snug if you're gonna be doing any kinds of tricks. Your ankles will thank you.


Posted by TweeK on Mar-07-2005 15:20:

Since you live in Brasil id say go with the skatebord.

im sure Brasil has a good skate scene.....specially "RIO"

But like a person said before, go with the "blades" its easier to pick up.


Posted by arek on Mar-07-2005 15:31:

if you are a girl, get inline.

skateboarding, doing tricks, there's NO avoiding the pain that comes with it. Also the learning curve is high. Don't expect to be doing tricks at least for a few months. You'll be learning how to ride and keep your balance, gaining confidence in yourself. You need pure dedication and love for it.

http://www.skatersinc.com/feature/mitch/mitchpromo.mov


Posted by nrjizer on Mar-07-2005 15:59:

quote:
Originally posted by arek
if you are a girl, get inline.


No fucktards in this thread, please.


Posted by Jackson on Mar-07-2005 16:03:

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
No fucktards in this thread, please.


lol, notice bladers have respect for boarders, but not vice versa.
Oh well, go back to your emo music Arek.


Posted by Lira on Mar-07-2005 16:22:

As for the Good Charlotte thing, it's all good here, Jackson - most Brazilians don't know Good Charlotte anyway, and I personally already dress up like a skater so if I were to be linked to the stereotype of a skater, I wouldn't even need the skate itself (it's funny how people often ask me whether I skate because of my clothing ).

I wouldn't skate with friends, though - at least I can't see that happening, although I've just found out one of my girlfriend's best friends is 5% of my city's Hockey Association (yes, they've got only 20 players )... who knows I don't join them?

Isn't this Xjadow thing too expensive though? I'm not sure whether I should spend too much money in the beginning. And Tweek, I'm almost sure the skateboarding scene here in Brazil is based in São Paulo, not in Rio, but both cities are 12 hours away from where I live so it doesn't really have an impact in my life

Thanks for the recommendations everyone
quote:
Originally posted by Acton
get a pogo stick

I can't say I haven't thought of that


Posted by Yan on Mar-07-2005 16:24:

Blades or bust.

Skateboards are nice and all but you're more often to get hust on a skateboard when it comes to tricks. Then again, skateboards have a ton more tricks than blades.


Posted by Lira on Mar-07-2005 16:26:

quote:
Originally posted by arek
if you are a girl, get inline.

Girls get inline skates?

I've made my choice then - I'd rather be skating with girls in case I hurt myself and need some assistance
quote:
Originally posted by arek
skateboarding, doing tricks, there's NO avoiding the pain that comes with it. Also the learning curve is high. Don't expect to be doing tricks at least for a few months. You'll be learning how to ride and keep your balance, gaining confidence in yourself. You need pure dedication and love for it.

http://www.skatersinc.com/feature/mitch/mitchpromo.mov

I'm downloading the video... and I know I won't be able to do tricks soon. I need to work out a lot, even before practising the moves (I'm becoming a perfect couch potato ).


Posted by UWM on Mar-07-2005 16:27:

Get lolerskates!


Posted by Yan on Mar-07-2005 16:28:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
Get lolerskates!


They're backordered everywhere...


Posted by Acton on Mar-07-2005 16:28:

pogo sticks are mega, get one.

is aggressive skating when u fight with roller blades on? must be hard to drop kick someone


Posted by UWM on Mar-07-2005 16:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Yan
They're backordered everywhere...



That's a shame. I just ordered my 'ROFLCopter' not too long ago.


Posted by D-res on Mar-07-2005 16:35:

aggressive inline... w00t

i have some USD Psirus Dominic Sagonas from a couple years back with some aaron feinberg senate wheels... quality stuff. Being an inline skater, i most definately recommend inline over skateboarding. i have respect for what they do, but i cant respect many of them as people. generally they're labelled as trouble makers and although the inliners dont have THAT much better of an image, i still recommend doing inline because it is also a better sport health wise. you dont get a WHOLE lot of excersizing skateboarding, but rollerbladin, you get crazy excersize.

i dont exactly expect you to pursue aggressive inline and im sure you'll most likely just pursue recreational skating, its still better than skateboarding.


quote:
Originally posted by Yan
Blades or bust.

Skateboards are nice and all but you're more often to get hust on a skateboard when it comes to tricks. Then again, skateboards have a ton more tricks than blades.


ton more tricks eh?

rofl.. you n00b. you have nooo idea


Posted by Yan on Mar-07-2005 16:36:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
That's a shame. I just ordered my 'ROFLCopter' not too long ago.




BEETCH! I'LL SEE YOU AT THE ROFLCOPTER EVENT AT THE LOLYMPICS!!!1


Posted by UWM on Mar-07-2005 16:36:

p.s your avatar is awesome


Posted by nrjizer on Mar-07-2005 16:46:

Yeah, the xsjados are pricey (like $320, which isn't much more than any other new pair of good skates), but for what you want they might be good. A new pair of remz will run you for $299 unless you find a shop with some of the older models (The 04one Haffey or the 03one, they're all the exact same anyways). The Salomon Campbell model is about $230 and very nice. They're comfortable as hell, rugged, skate well, have a good pair of anti-rockers already on them... they're basically ready to go. The Razors Team skate is nice, only $200 and is ready to go... but like I said, they don't have the best heel lock, and the liner on that model isn't the best... but they're still solid for the price.

I personally reccomend remedyz though, they skate the best to me (for the kinds of tricks I do anyways), but they do have a few downsides... they're a bit of a pain to take on and off compared to other skates (since the laces actually serve a purpose). They're a soft boot, meaning that they just have hard plastic where it counts, while most of the outerboot is covered with a (very tough) leather. They hold up good and strong, but are easier to get dirty and it's probably best not to get em really wet (not that you would be skating in the rain like we do sometimes...). Their whole philosophy though is to make skates that fit and feel like a shoe, instead of a big snowboard boot. I've tried a lot of skates in my time, but none are as good as my remz. They just skate perfect and fit better than perfect.

Whatever you do, make sure you're riding an anti-rocker setup. Anti rocker wheels are small, very hard and slick, and go in the two middle wheel slots in both skates. Their purpose is to help you grind. Regular wheels are softer and will stick, but anti rockers will lock in and slide across the obstacle with no problem. You'll only be riding on 4 wheels, losing a bit of speed and turning, but it's not that much of an issue. 99% of street skaters swear by anti-rocker.


Posted by Lira on Mar-07-2005 17:21:

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
Yeah, the xsjados are pricey (like $320, which isn't much more than any other new pair of good skates), but for what you want they might be good. A new pair of remz will run you for $299 unless you find a shop with some of the older models (The 04one Haffey or the 03one, they're all the exact same anyways). The Salomon Campbell model is about $230 and very nice. They're comfortable as hell, rugged, skate well, have a good pair of anti-rockers already on them... they're basically ready to go. The Razors Team skate is nice, only $200 and is ready to go... but like I said, they don't have the best heel lock, and the liner on that model isn't the best... but they're still solid for the price.

hmm... I was looking for something even cheaper because, roughly speaking, everything here would cost three/two times more than what you guys pay up there (local currency + taxes). What would be the cons of buying the cheaper ones? Would this investiment be worth it even for total beginners? (maybe it would be better to spend more money only if I actually get more serious with it). Just in case, I'm going to look for these models you mentioned. Maybe they're cheaper here than I expect them to
quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
I personally reccomend remedyz though, they skate the best to me (for the kinds of tricks I do anyways), but they do have a few downsides... they're a bit of a pain to take on and off compared to other skates (since the laces actually serve a purpose). They're a soft boot, meaning that they just have hard plastic where it counts, while most of the outerboot is covered with a (very tough) leather. They hold up good and strong, but are easier to get dirty and it's probably best not to get em really wet (not that you would be skating in the rain like we do sometimes...). Their whole philosophy though is to make skates that fit and feel like a shoe, instead of a big snowboard boot. I've tried a lot of skates in my time, but none are as good as my remz. They just skate perfect and fit better than perfect.

Remedyz? I'm gonna look for that
quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
Whatever you do, make sure you're riding an anti-rocker setup. Anti rocker wheels are small, very hard and slick, and go in the two middle wheel slots in both skates. Their purpose is to help you grind. Regular wheels are softer and will stick, but anti rockers will lock in and slide across the obstacle with no problem. You'll only be riding on 4 wheels, losing a bit of speed and turning, but it's not that much of an issue. 99% of street skaters swear by anti-rocker.

Thanks for the tip
quote:
Originally posted by Acton
pogo sticks are mega, get one.

is aggressive skating when u fight with roller blades on? must be hard to drop kick someone




quote:
Originally posted by D-res
i still recommend doing inline because it is also a better sport health wise. you dont get a WHOLE lot of excersizing skateboarding, but rollerbladin, you get crazy excersize.

I thought of that too... this is the reason why I'm slowly being more and more inclined to getting inline skates.
quote:
Originally posted by D-res
i dont exactly expect you to pursue aggressive inline and im sure you'll most likely just pursue recreational skating, its still better than skateboarding.

Well, I would like to be more than a recreational skater


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Mar-07-2005 17:22:

snowboarding is bettar


Posted by arek on Mar-07-2005 17:38:

skateboarding owns all.

don't get inline skates. that's just the easy way out.


Posted by nrjizer on Mar-07-2005 17:41:

You're not gonna get anything worth your while for less than $200. There is a RollerBlade TRS model for about $150, but I wouldn't reccomend them at all. They're not bad, but just overall mediocre. Plus they're odd fitting to a lot of people. You'd also need to buy some anti-rockers for about $20 (but the upside is you'd have an extra set of wheels left over, I suppose).

If you don't want to spend a whole lot, I reccomend these:



Salomon Campbells... $230 at Skatepile. Salomons are probably the best fitting/most comfortable skates around besides Remedyz (and possibly xsjado, but I've never ridden them so I wouldnt know). They're pretty rugged too, and these have anti's already on them. They're ready to go right out of the box. Only real downsides, they don't have a whole lot of flex, and they don't look as cool as a lot of other skates - not that it matters that much, but hey, we can't help ourselves

Anyways, my personal preference would be some Remz:



Those are the latest ones, the 2005 Haffeys. Those are $299, but are just about the best you could get. If you look around, you might be able to find some of the 04 Haffeys or 03ones for about $50 less... they're all the exact same pretty much, just different colors and some different outer leather. Get them nice and snug... mine were so tight that my foot fell asleep for the first week I had them, but they will break in and form around your foot perfect. I love em.


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