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New DJ 2nd Nature DVJ Routine

Whoa...this shows that 2nd nature...Is truley the best on the DVJ's

The guy has skills...not only in DJing...but in video and music production

http://www.dj2ndnature.com/nc&b2005/2005Routine.mpg

My buddy 2nd nature!!

It's a preprogramed performance. He builds up 2 cds whith the songs already set the the right pitch. It's hardly real dj'ing. It looks slick on the competition stuff but i really think it's a load of crap. he might as well run ableton.

True...but each one he does...takes over 90 hours to make. Sorry, it's a lot harder than sitting at a turntable and mixer for an hour or 2

dling...I never ever ever liked that first routine, and I saw it so many times at so many different events, and it was always the same exact thing.

I hope this one is better.

They aren't Trance...as he doesn't play trance.

Also, he played he same routine for the same reason I stated above for the albaton thing

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Originally posted by A83 They aren't Trance...as he doesn't play trance. Also, he played he same routine for the same reason I stated above for the albaton thing

So the fact that it takes a long time to preprogram one of these sets stops any sort of ability for variety, and being spontaneous? Hm...first of all I dont think thats true and second of all, that certainly wouldnt make me want to buy a dvj.

Anyways, I'm just not feeling these dvjs, I mean I think they would be nice to add visualizations to a set, but that could, and has been done long before the dvj. I mean all this does is jump between videos, jumps between different spots on the videos and plays different parts of the videos farwards/backwards/forwards/backwards/forwards/backwards/annoying studdering/backwards/annoying studdering etc.

Sure you could say the same for the cdj, all it does is play the music forwards/backwards/studdering/looping/jumping between tracks/different points in the track, but thats totally different, because these qualities work right along with electronic music...because thats essentially what it is it works with the form of a track. Video just isnt the same, doing these little tricks to video is just annoying...well I guess thats why alot of people find electronic music annoying...

I don't know the plus's to DVD's...but I heard it somewhere you can put full 24bit 96000khz, and have up to 9 seprate tracks spit up from a program like pro tools...and have the ability to bring in each part (such as bassline, lead) whenever you want. (Am I right? Clear me up if I'm not)

What other Product on the market has the ability to do such things as the DVJ? Scratch DVD Video is massive

The DVJ has been given MANY awards for being the product design and technology.

It is a great product, but not one thats really got a place in the EDM scene as its more todo with the actual music, but for mainstream crap and MTV this is a top tool, although I have heard of various DJs like Zabiela using them abit, but not doing preset sets like 2nd Nature, Zabiela and the like just go with the flow when on them.

I don't think the DVJ has the ability to do that seperate tracks things at once, like play a drum on one and a kick on the other, DVD is higher quality and I do think DVD is able to do this, but I don't think its a feature on the DVJ, as for other programs, Ableton can do what you said easy, screw 9, you can have 20+ if you want, as many as you want aslong as your computer can take it.

Its a top peice of gear, and 2nd Nature does a good set, be it preset or whatever, and even though I've played on them and it was fun, if I was given one I'd sell it and buy things that are more lets say sensible for EDM music.

that video was fuckin wack, and i don't mean that in a good way.

someone post one where the DJ has good taste in music!

(note, i have no doubt the guy is skilled, but so what, the choice of music sucks.)

Does anyone else thing we should wang this guy if he keeps failing to contribute anything meaningful to the DJ Booth forum?

This guy isnt a dj hes more of a producer the whole thing is pre packaged,the music is too mainstream for my liking anyways

that's pretty fun to watch!

guys.. dj 2nd nature is nothing

a bit of trivia here - did you know he makes a LOT of remixes for ultimix records, which is basically a fisher-price dj promo service. 32 beats intro, 32 beats outro - no harmonics involved, just pre-made shit for your mixing pleasure

yes, i use funkymix when doing gigs for mobile shit (schools, events with people my age ) but that doesnt mean that i respect it

It has its place
Alongside the light jocks controls......

Any light jock worth his salt and wage knows the tunes anyway- so should have great fun messing with the visuals. Decent ones already do- to a limited extent.

Would be great if every track had a video- but for now thats not going to happen.

I watched it. I want to shoot myself.

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Originally posted by djkoolaide guys.. dj 2nd nature is nothing a bit of trivia here - did you know he makes a LOT of remixes for ultimix records, which is basically a fisher-price dj promo service. 32 beats intro, 32 beats outro - no harmonics involved, just pre-made shit for your mixing pleasure yes, i use funkymix when doing gigs for mobile shit (schools, events with people my age ) but that doesnt mean that i respect it

$100 he's won 30x more events than you (DJing)

I personally don't care about the music...I like any kind of music...I can say I like trance and classic rock and some rock the most...but I don't mind hip hop since it indeed is played...EVERYWHERE

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Originally posted by Freak It has its place Alongside the light jocks controls...... Any light jock worth his salt and wage knows the tunes anyway- so should have great fun messing with the visuals. Decent ones already do- to a limited extent. Would be great if every track had a video- but for now thats not going to happen.

I've done light work alongside DJs for fun, and it really is a lot of fun, as a DJ you can control the crowd with the music, but you can also do it with lights aswell, and yea, if you know the tunes being played, you can time things really well and make a killer buildup with the lights and then when the music hits you go nuts, my fav was the good ol strobe, it was a big basterd aswell, more like a mini Sun.

hey i was a light jock before i was a dj.... still do it from time to time- its all money.
Good training- you get to watch the crwd and how it works from a djs perspective.

i broke down and actually watched that trash. How can he sleep at night knowing that he spent 90hrs making that trash? I love how he plugs himself in the middle and then the very end. As if the link of his own website wouldn't have been subtle enough. He very well may win cheezy dj competitions but the day he plays a crowd of thousands live without anything premade will be the day he earns some respect from the users of this board.

i love VJing. i wish more people would do it in club. it adds to the experience. music can be so much more than just sound when its a combination of light and colour and music. you can really lose yourself in the experience if its done well.

so what if its preprogammed? that guy probably put alot of hours in to make that short time on stage count. i respect anyone for doing that. lab4 to a large extent preprogram their live sets. they rehearse and theres alot of stuff thats organized in advance. they spend months to get a good set flowing. and every time ive seen them they have blown me away. and they never play the same set at the same venue twice.

i also believe this stuff can work extremely well in EDM. particularly using psychedellic type patterns and colours, and winamp AVS/GEISS type trippy coloured trails. synced and scratched with the music. and reacting to it. by god that would be amazing.

thats what i like about EDM, particularly hypnotic, old trance/psychedellic trance type music - in the right environment, surrounded by light and colour and sound (whether from a VJ, hallucinogenic drugs or a combo of both), the whole experience can be truly transcendant. if i were to ever perform live, thats the kind of experience i would shoot for.

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Originally posted by Derivative i also believe this stuff can work extremely well in EDM. particularly using psychedellic type patterns and colours, and winamp AVS/GEISS type trippy coloured trails. synced and scratched with the music. and reacting to it. by god that would be amazing. thats what i like about EDM, particularly hypnotic, old trance/psychedellic trance type music - in the right environment, surrounded by light and colour and sound (whether from a VJ, hallucinogenic drugs or a combo of both), the whole experience can be truly transcendant. if i were to ever perform live, thats the kind of experience i would shoot for.

Yea it does work really well, theres a festival/rave that happens here and its a 3 day event with afew thousand people, last year was a psy event and it was the best time I had last year, they didn't have DVJs but they had a VJ projecting a cinema size visual up onto the whole stage, with amazing shit going on, I really can't wait for it this year, I'll post some pics of the event in abit, and maybe one of the videos.

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Yea it does work really well, theres a festival/rave that happens here and its a 3 day event with afew thousand people, last year was a psy event and it was the best time I had last year, they didn't have DVJs but they had a VJ projecting a cinema size visual up onto the whole stage, with amazing shit going on, I really can't wait for it this year, I'll post some pics of the event in abit, and maybe one of the videos.

pics! videos! i hope they do stuff like this at the glade this year. the pioneer dvjs are stunningly expensive though. that said, the amount of trippy audio visual DVDs available at least in the uk is fairly high. would be great source material for an outdoor psychedellic journey. mwaha! wheres my protoculture cds?! i wanna play some psy

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Originally posted by Derivative i love VJing. i wish more people would do it in club. it adds to the experience. music can be so much more than just sound when its a combination of light and colour and music. you can really lose yourself in the experience if its done well. so what if its preprogammed? that guy probably put alot of hours in to make that short time on stage count. i respect anyone for doing that. lab4 to a large extent preprogram their live sets. they rehearse and theres alot of stuff thats organized in advance. they spend months to get a good set flowing. and every time ive seen them they have blown me away. and they never play the same set at the same venue twice. i also believe this stuff can work extremely well in EDM. particularly using psychedellic type patterns and colours, and winamp AVS/GEISS type trippy coloured trails. synced and scratched with the music. and reacting to it. by god that would be amazing. thats what i like about EDM, particularly hypnotic, old trance/psychedellic trance type music - in the right environment, surrounded by light and colour and sound (whether from a VJ, hallucinogenic drugs or a combo of both), the whole experience can be truly transcendant. if i were to ever perform live, thats the kind of experience i would shoot for.

I agree totally! Too many of you all are hating on 2nd nature. I'd like to see you do what he does!

I wouldnt do what he does. Its not my thing. Just pure honesty here, thats all. I don't like it, and really do not see the point of it.

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Originally posted by Derivative pics! videos! i hope they do stuff like this at the glade this year. the pioneer dvjs are stunningly expensive though. that said, the amount of trippy audio visual DVDs available at least in the uk is fairly high. would be great source material for an outdoor psychedellic journey. mwaha! wheres my protoculture cds?! i wanna play some psy

Well I was just checking my albums and the pics ain't the best, check there site out for some nice pics, its www.motionnotion.com last year the headliner was Astral Projection, I missed some of it as I was messed in the head and they only hit the decks at like 5am, but heres one of the videos, sorry for the shit quality, the real vid is a fair bit better, I just quickly encoded it.

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