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Hi ���
which efx unit should i get for my booth?

pioneer efx-1000 or korg kaoos pad II ?
any other better than these??

Thanks

Seriously thats like comparing a Honda to a Ferrari, there both good, but in 2 different classes, unless you actually mean the EFX500, anyway the KP2 is great from what I hear, but the 1000 will blow it away, but thats what you get when you pay close to twice the amount for it.

I purchased the EFX-500 a month or so ago and i kinda wish that I had gone for the KP2 instead.
Perhaps its just me not having any imagination (and it problably is) but the EFX-500 feels really
limited. There is just so many effects and you can only combine two at a time with a limited amount
of tweaking them that it makes the idea of the KP2 feel alot better.

Altho i could be wrong, remember, i have the EFX-500 and not the KP2.

Zabiela does cool stuff with the EFX but when you have one its not hard at all to spot exactly what he does
with it, not to put the guy down at all, he is a master of using the efx but it atleast showed me how limited the
efx really is. And the Ring-effect and the Fuzz-effect, are totally useless.

The efx1000 costs triple what the kp2 costs...you shouldnt be comparing them.

That said I think the kp2 is great. I mean, it has so many effects that you can utilize in both sets, and productions, and most importantly, alot of the effects sound fresh. While everything on the efx500 does not...and the efx1000 will only have 2, and one of them is a vocoder, which is an already whored out effect...so...

That said I honestly dont know which I'll go with. They are both so great.

I know 2 people that own both of those units, and they both have contrary beleifs on which is better. Although one of them is a scratch dj (prefers efx500 because its simple, and easy to control while scratching...and I guess using the jog wheel is similar to scratching) While the other is a breaks, progressive etc. mix dj (prefers the kp2)

Oh, sorry, i was talking about the EFX-500 all the time.
The EFX-1000 isnt really an option to me (the expense! :eek but from what ive seen the EFX-500 and the 1000 doesnt
differ that much when it comes to the effects so, ohwell.

Is there a sample of the vocoder effect btw?
i havent heard it.

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Originally posted by webbie Oh, sorry, i was talking about the EFX-500 all the time. The EFX-1000 isnt really an option to me (the expense! :eek but from what ive seen the EFX-500 and the 1000 doesnt differ that much when it comes to the effects so, ohwell. Is there a sample of the vocoder effect btw? i havent heard it.

Yea the EFX1000 has I think 3 more effects and some more options, but the main improvement was in the sound quality, thats what the big thing is with the 1000, but between the KP2 and the EFX500, thats a close one, I'd surgest you go and try them both out, I'd personally probably go for the EFX, but I haven't had really any proper use on either of them, just mainly going off of peoples opinions and videos.

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Originally posted by DannyO Yea the EFX1000 has I think 3 more effects and some more options, but the main improvement was in the sound quality,

Yeah, the sound quality is wonderful on the efx1000, and I'm not arguing that its clearly superior...because it obviously is, but I think it should be pointed out that it does lack a few of the less useful features that the efx500 has, just for peice of mind.



What the efx500 has over the 1000...

The headphone jack was removed for the efx1000, while the efx500 has one. This is actually useful if your mixer has poor/no send/recieve, or if you hook it up between cdj/TT, and mixer (some people do like doing this)

It also lacks the fuzz effect that the efx500 has (but of course it has vocoder, humanizer, pitch echo and phase shifter)

It lacks the pan beat effect.

And lastly it lacks the isolator (eq knobs) I honestly wish they had left these on...



On the flipside what the 1000 does have over the 500...

96khz sampling rate, and 24 bit resolution.

Digital in/out

Pioneer link and a place to plug in a foot switch.

Pitch echo.

Phaser.

Phase Shifter.

Humanizer.

Vocoder.

Character dials.

Rhythm effects.

Looping option on the jog memory.

And it has additional 1/8 and 2/4 beat buttons.

i would probably go with the kp2

1000

Ok thanks everyone for your answer ���

Maybe still it�s difficult to decide which one to buy ��
For me, the most important features are the ability to add the
efx to a choosed freq range (hi.low.mid) not to the whole and the quality of sound.

If quality of sound is your main determining factor here, you have to go with the 1000. If price has anything to do with you decision, the KP or 500 would be in front.

Personally, I cant really see myself spending that much on an effects box, espeically for the amount of use I would put into it.

wow
I love the little old BOSS fX pedals yeah I know they are mono however make great insert fx..

Matt

I am going through the search for an EFX box at the moment and i previewed both the kp2 and 500 the other day and i must say i think i will be getting the kp2... the efx 1000 dont really have that much appeal to me for the price of it all considering theres not that much improvement.

I understand that P-1000 it�s very expensive and that i wont use it every time but when i need it i want quality ��
also i saw that i can aply effects to a selected freq. range and i think that kaoss pad II can�t do that.
so i think i�ll get the P-1000 one
thanks

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aply effects to a selected freq. range and i think that kaoss pad II can�t do that.

Well in some you can. I've got that Kaoss for about 2 weeks now. Still much to learn and master. But I can recommend. About tu issue de freq range there are some effects for which the x-plane (plano horizontal) is freq range while y-plane is volume/effect whatever.
I also have a 4 channel mixer with 3 sources. So I use one channel, with its own eqs, for input from kaoss pad> mi solucion al mismo asunto.

Luck and Fun

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