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Posted by dseabra on Mar-10-2005 16:07:

Armin's Mixing Quality

Hello people!

I have:

- Echo Layla 24/96 Audio Interface
- A Pentium 4 2.4Ghz with 1024Mb of Ram
- 80GB of HD SATA
- A pair of monitors by Alesis Model M1 Active MkII
- A Midi Interface by M-Audio in the case a Midisport 4X4

Synthesizers:
- Access Virus Indigo 2
- Roland XP-60 Expanded with Synthesizers patches
- Roland JP-8080
- Novation Nova
- Roland JP-8000

Now the question:

With these babies, I can take the Armin Van Buuren Mixing quality? Someone can tell me some secrets to get the quality of Armin's Mixing? The mixer count in the process? Where I can find information for NEWBIES to get a good quality of mixing?

Well that's all! Thanks a lot!

Waiting Answers

Daniel C. Seabra


Posted by thecYrus on Mar-10-2005 16:19:

no, you can't!

it's not the gear which mixes for you...

with all this gear you'll still make bad tunes if you have not the hard earned experience of some years and the needed talent..


Posted by alanzo on Mar-10-2005 16:28:

Re: Armin's Mixing Quality

Sounds to me like you wasted your money. Not only can you did you spend all that money on your gear and don't know how to use it.. but you have BOTH a JP-8000 and a JP-8080


Posted by Rob on Mar-10-2005 16:40:

Re: Re: Armin's Mixing Quality

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
Not only can you did you spend all that money on your gear and don't know how to use it.. but you have BOTH a JP-8000 and a JP-8080



Posted by Project 7 on Mar-10-2005 16:45:

Practise makes perfect


Posted by mdk on Mar-10-2005 18:13:

And in 2 weeks this stuff will be for sale on ebay


Posted by kopi_luwak on Mar-10-2005 18:13:

Re: Re: Armin's Mixing Quality

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
Sounds to me like you wasted your money. Not only can you did you spend all that money on your gear and don't know how to use it.. but you have BOTH a JP-8000 and a JP-8080

X 1000 = !!


Posted by DJ Twenty on Mar-10-2005 18:21:

I'll take one of those of your hands, 8000 or 8080 i aint bothered


Posted by Derivative on Mar-10-2005 19:13:

ok, i wont join in the ridicule but seriously - there are no secrets. nothing you cant learn if you sit down and take the time out to learn each one of those instruments and the nuances of each. there is no magic formula. the sooner you realise this and buckle down the sooner you get onto the task of writing music and trying to get better at it.

you already have a setup that is beyond the financial limitations of most producers here. your studio is certainly beyond anything i can afford within the next 5 years at least - the result of a large 20 grand debt racked up from uni education. some of the producers here are not only extremely talented but they have proven that you dont need a studio of this calibre to write good music. but you have to figure it out for yourself. if there was a quick secret passage to success - everyone would know about it. or make it their business to try to find out. read: it doesnt exist.

now the first thing you can do is to actually google some resources related to: subtractive synthesis, analogue/virtual analogue synthesis, tips and tricks on mixing and mastering. you may also want to google various tutorials on building synthesizer patches, music theory and notation and you may want to download some free sample packs to get you started at www.dorumalaia.com and www.meanbeat.co.uk. lastly you may want to read the forums at www.kvraudio.com, read the tutorial section at www.spinwarp.com and at www.dnbscene.com.

then i would recommend downloading some basic freeware soft synthesizers such as rgc audio triangle II and ASynth. why should you do this? because its easier to learn subtractive synthesis using basic modules and build your way up.

what on earth possessed you to buy an access virus indigo II? it is a very complex virtual analogue synthesizer owing to the number of modulation routing possibilities and its easy to get confused and bogged down if you know nothing about subtractive synthesis. throwing money at music production doesnt make you any better. in fact its liable to get you alot of complex instruments with a learning curve so high it'll make you want to quit right off. keep hold of that gear but for god's sake - learn about analogue synths and basic programming of analogue synthesis before you start buying the most expensive virtual analogue synths currently on the market. as i mentioned before - learn it on a cheap/free softsynth. you will find it easier to understand.

you will learn this in time and through some of the resources i have listed here. but please bear in mind: this is not easy stuff. and it will take several years for you to begin to develop a kind of sound that works. i hate to say it but you have approached music production in completely the wrong way.

also - as mentioned previously, you do not need a roland jp8080 and a jp8000. they are essentially the same synth. the 8000 having a keyboard and slightly lower polyphony. the 8080 having no keyboard, slightly higher polyphony and a vocoder. pick the one you need and/or prefer to work with and sell the other one - you dont need it. unless you do not have a better use for �500?


Posted by Agenz on Mar-10-2005 19:17:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Twenty
I'll take one of those of your hands, 8000 or 8080 i aint bothered


@Twenty +1....nice try..cheap synth

It's not what you have my friend, it's how u use it. You could have the best studio in the world with all top gear in it but unless you have the exp and practise behind it, then you produce shit. Simple as

Have a good look round this forum and check back threads. That's what I
did...and look @ me now...still shi7

Listen to these guys and good luck


Posted by Derivative on Mar-10-2005 19:18:

this thread has me stunned.

i mean. i just...

im stunned.

that would be like me going out and buying a corvette, a 911 and an f1 car, then asking for tips on how to how to do stunt driving. by the way, i failed my driving theory test (they said i couldnt fail it) and i left the handbrake on my mum's micra off so that it rolled into a brickwall. on the one occassion i was allowed to learn on it.

i mean.

im speechless.


Posted by DJMaytag on Mar-10-2005 19:25:

practice, practice, practice...

I've been at producing for over 10 years now, and I've finally gotten to the point of producing some halfway decent stuff. Most of that time has been learning synthesis, and the last couple years has been learning song structure and correct level/frequency balance.

Very few people can drop a load of cash and begin to produce high quality music right off the bat.


Posted by Derivative on Mar-10-2005 19:30:

erm. it is in plain english. not sure what language you speak up in durham (please SARCASM follow through on this one. PLEEEASSE.)

and no you dont have to take my advice. its not directed at you. its directed at this brazilian guy who dropped 10 grand on a studio and still thinks an envelope is something you put birthday cards in.


Posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ on Mar-10-2005 19:34:

haha i have to agree who buys a jp-8080 and a jp-8000 and seeing how the jp-8080 is better i dont get why hed buy a 8000. but hey i think i need to get my rubber boots on to read this thread as appears alot of shit is floating


Posted by Agenz on Mar-10-2005 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Derivative
erm. it is in plain english. not sure what language you speak up in durham (please SARCASM follow through on this one. PLEEEASSE.)


Sorry Derivative, i'm too grown up for that nonsense...

I do apologise mate for the post, it's sort of sounded @ me. Only trying
my friend...

P.s I speak with a little geordie twang...


Posted by Derivative on Mar-10-2005 19:43:

northerners

what am i saying?!

im southern scum. just ignore us inbred southern hicks. we are quick to RAGE. quick to reach for the broken bottle and glass someone in a pub with our burburry caps and reebok classics. and ARR BIRDS WIV DAIR HOOP EAR RINGS CALLED TRACEY YEAH?

YOU LOOKIN AT MY BIRD? YOU WANNA PEICE OF DIS GLASS SANDWICH??


Posted by Agenz on Mar-10-2005 19:45:

quote:
im southern scum. just ignore us inbred southern hicks.


Ok...


Posted by Derivative on Mar-10-2005 19:46:

awwww you missed my quality EDIT!


Posted by mef on Mar-10-2005 19:51:

fucking northern monkeys!!


Posted by Agenz on Mar-10-2005 19:53:

quote:
Originally posted by mef
fucking northern monkeys!!


Please don't let this turn into a southern/Northern thread..


Posted by Derivative on Mar-10-2005 20:04:

YOU STILL LOOKIN' AT MY BIRD? UR CRUISIN FOR A BRUISIN' MATE.


Posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ on Mar-10-2005 20:04:

haha fucken british


Posted by Derivative on Mar-10-2005 20:07:

jaaah! dont mess wiv da sauwf coast y'hear?

EDIT: mef will bottle your face if you aint careful. behind the forum sig hes really a lager swillin' wife beata.


Posted by Project 7 on Mar-10-2005 20:08:

quote:
Originally posted by mdk
And in 2 weeks this stuff will be for sale on ebay



LOL


Posted by Agenz on Mar-10-2005 20:20:

quote:
EDIT: mef will bottle your face if you aint careful. behind the forum sig hes really a lager swillin' wife beata.


LOL It would have to take him and 2 others

EDIT: Besides, I'm too old to fight school kids...


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