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iv always wondered about this so now im just ganna ask
when mxing one track to another do u adjust the new tracks EQ so it sounds similar to the outgoing track? because up untill now iv just been straight mixixng with the EQ's at default, sometimes mixing with the EQ's using low etc but in the end they all just end up at default

It all depends on which songs you are mixing and what kind of mix you want. There are no rules really. Usually, the live song will be at full eq and the cued song will have its lows turned down a bit, so that when you bring in the cued song, you slowly swap the lows and bring the eqs of the cued song to full. Or sometimes you might want to do a very exagerated bass swap as opposed to doing it slowly.

you can also play around with the mids and highs. Say if the cued song has really pronounced hi-hats, you might want to keep the hi's down at first when fading the song in.

You really need to experiment for yourself and see what works.

Yep. Its all about what works for you best. Just keep at it and you will find the way thats best for you. As you will hear around here alot, there is no wrong way. I learned my own way with everything. No one taught me a damn thing, and I'm glad cause the way I mix is my own way. Just have fun with it.

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Originally posted by Mike123 I learned my own way with everything. No one taught me a damn thing, and I'm glad cause the way I mix is my own way.

yeah, same here

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Originally posted by DJ Joshua H It all depends on which songs you are mixing and what kind of mix you want. There are no rules really. Usually, the live song will be at full eq and the cued song will have its lows turned down a bit, so that when you bring in the cued song, you slowly swap the lows and bring the eqs of the cued song to full. Or sometimes you might want to do a very exagerated bass swap as opposed to doing it slowly. you can also play around with the mids and highs. Say if the cued song has really pronounced hi-hats, you might want to keep the hi's down at first when fading the song in. You really need to experiment for yourself and see what works.

+1, it's all there

i love eq'ing during breakdowns...sends chills down my spine and gives me goosebumps sometimes...its great

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Originally posted by i got big pants i love eq'ing during breakdowns...sends chills down my spine and gives me goosebumps sometimes...its great

+1, ive been +1ing a lot today, dunno why,,, very agreeable today

I guess that without EQing, you as a DJ won't suck. If you mix at
0 Db that should work fine. all i am trying to say is that it isn't the end of the world if you don't EQ.
no one tought me how to DJ, i just learned it my way, with a two band EQ (behringer vmx 100,
the crappiest mixer on the market IMO) hopefully oneday a DXM06!!
What DJ Joshua H said is also pretty much what i do, so that is def. something to work at.
just mess around with it, good things happen thru messing around!!

DJ ICE777

Iv nearly always mixed by bringing in one range at a time but now im also tryin to play around with the eqs to get the songs to match a little more.

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Originally posted by DJ ICE777 I guess that without EQing, you as a DJ won't suck. If you mix at 0 Db that should work fine. all i am trying to say is that it isn't the end of the world if you don't EQ. no one tought me how to DJ, i just learned it my way, with a two band EQ (behringer vmx 100, the crappiest mixer on the market IMO) hopefully oneday a DXM06!! What DJ Joshua H said is also pretty much what i do, so that is def. something to work at. just mess around with it, good things happen thru messing around!! DJ ICE777

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Clashing frequencies sounds crap

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Originally posted by Jeremy H -1 Clashing frequencies sounds crap

ahem to that brother

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Originally posted by Jeremy H -1 Clashing frequencies sounds crap

They do, thats why a huge part of being a DJ is track selection. What did DJs do when they had to mix on mixers without EQs? They payed more attention to which tracks sound great together instead of saying, hey I can just kill the highs on this one and the mix will be ok. I used to use the EQs heavily to mix but recently I've just been using the EQs to keep the bass from phasing or to boost a frequency here or there if I'm mixing in a track thats pressed wrong or has less energy or whatever but its not a normal thing.

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Originally posted by Zild They do, thats why a huge part of being a DJ is track selection. What did DJs do when they had to mix on mixers without EQs? They payed more attention to which tracks sound great together instead of saying, hey I can just kill the highs on this one and the mix will be ok. I used to use the EQs heavily to mix but recently I've just been using the EQs to keep the bass from phasing or to boost a frequency here or there if I'm mixing in a track thats pressed wrong or has less energy or whatever but its not a normal thing.

No matter how well u choose your tracks, adjusting the EQs can always make the mix sound smoother.

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Originally posted by Jeremy H No matter how well u choose your tracks, adjusting the EQs can always make the mix sound smoother.

I beg to differ. Some of my smoothest mixes have been done by forcing myself to mix in key and to leave the EQs alone except to correct for the bass phasing. Thats the plain truth and if you don't believe me get two of your tracks that are very close in BPM and are the same key and mix them together using only the Bass EQ to correct for phasing and only the channel faders to maintain proper gain levels.

i agree zild, i have never used the mid or hi eq while mixing and i tell ya the mixin is still seamless and fukin sexual.

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Originally posted by Zild I beg to differ. Some of my smoothest mixes have been done by forcing myself to mix in key and to leave the EQs alone except to correct for the bass phasing. Thats the plain truth and if you don't believe me get two of your tracks that are very close in BPM and are the same key and mix them together using only the Bass EQ to correct for phasing and only the channel faders to maintain proper gain levels.

I doubt that the "perfect" mix often is with the EQs at default.. but I know that you sometimes dont need to fiddle around with them too much. Depends on the genre you're playing too..

I agree with you Zild. I have tried playing certain tracks with another track, and no matter how hard I try, I can't get the mix to sound good. I try my best to learn everything about the music I have in my case, and what tracks will go good with others. It is a very important part of DJing.

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Originally posted by Jeremy H I doubt that the "perfect" mix often is with the EQs at default.. but I know that you sometimes dont need to fiddle around with them too much. Depends on the genre you're playing too..

I still have to disagree. I find that when my track selection is really on and I'm in the groove I hardly have to use the mids or highs at all. I can get in and out of tracks quicker if I don't have to spend a few phrases diddling with the mids and highs. Keep in mind this is something I've just recently started doing and that I don't spin trance but I think the trend also applies to trance.

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Originally posted by Zild I still have to disagree. I find that when my track selection is really on and I'm in the groove I hardly have to use the mids or highs at all. I can get in and out of tracks quicker if I don't have to spend a few phrases diddling with the mids and highs. Keep in mind this is something I've just recently started doing and that I don't spin trance but I think the trend also applies to trance.

Well..everyone has their opionion
Kind of guessed you were not playing trance.. "get in and out of tracks quicker" is not often something you want to do when mixing trance. We disagree, end of discussion

I play progressive and nu skool breaks and I don't find them all that different in trance. I do find DJs that only do intro/outro mixing to be very boring. I like DJs that will play a track but mix out of it before the second breakdown hits or will mix the track in after the first breakdown, skipping it entirely. I guess we're just into two different types of mixing. Again this is something I've just recently gotten into and a lot of mixes I used to do don't sound right when done this way.

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Originally posted by Zild I play progressive and nu skool breaks and I don't find them all that different in trance. I do find DJs that only do intro/outro mixing to be very boring. I like DJs that will play a track but mix out of it before the second breakdown hits or will mix the track in after the first breakdown, skipping it entirely. I guess we're just into two different types of mixing. Again this is something I've just recently gotten into and a lot of mixes I used to do don't sound right when done this way.

I havent said anything about when to mix in or out of tracks.. Of course I like original mixes and som unexpected mixes too.. But I still think that the EQs are a great tool to make the mixes smoother.. (even if the tracks already are "in-key")

Thats all I meant by saying get in and of tracks quicker though. I never said you said anything about intro/outro mixing.

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Originally posted by Zild Thats all I meant by saying get in and of tracks quicker though. I never said you said anything about intro/outro mixing.

I know what you mean. If the two tunes are in the same key that is, the EQ's dont really need touching because using the faders alone helps you mix like your layering a production. You can bring a tune in full volume with the EQ's all aligned to 0dB with it still sounding sweet because the two tunes are both the same key. Your layering it in the mix like your adding more production to the first tune. This makes it easier to have relatively short transitions between tunes with it still sounding smooth.

Whereas I find if your mixing two tunes which are compatible harmonically but arent the same as each other, then using the EQ's to mix is highly effective. You can exchange back and forth from different areas of the tunes! Especially crazy when mixing techno because of the length of time you can leave two tunes in the mix!!

If your not sure what I mean check this little mix between two tunes:

BLENDING.MP3

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Originally posted by Fresh If your not sure what I mean check this little mix between two tunes: BLENDING.ZIP

I think it's down

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Originally posted by DarkFall01 I think it's down

awww man. they would have took it down because it contained an mp3. damn free hosting lol

I'll find somewhere to host in the meantime

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