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Nu-Skool Breaks vs. DDTT: Which was a bigger fad on TOTA at its prime?

Both Nu-Skool Breaks and DDTT have been around for some time. Both gained high levels of popularity and hype on TOTA at certain periods (Nu-Skool Breaks circa. 2002, DDTT circa. 2004/2005).

Which do you think was more popular on TOTA at its prime?

DDTT is bigger imo, but it's not a fad. Maybe the term is, but house is getting stronger and stronger

To me DDTT is just another label for what i've always known as NYC House / NYC Dark House. The only difference is that nowadays there's more fusion between genres, so you get house tracks that incorporate the tribally aspects with the drums and have that techno inspired punchy sound.

It's the same sleazy, chunky beats that have been around for the last 5-6 years. I've noticed it's become popular among TOTA's after Boa opened and they brought in a lot of DJ's who play that type of sound. Quite honestly, to me it's just an extension of the NYC sound now played with a Toronto flava which is more upbeat and tech-ier. So it's not so much a fad as a realization that house music doesn't always have to be soulfull vocals over disco beats.

Don't really know if Nu-skool breaks was that big a fad in the first place...yea, quite a lot of people enjoy breaks, but personally i enjoy breaks more at home then at the club. The breaks junkies on this forum actually seem to have a broad range of genres they enjoy with everything from progressive to chillout thrown into the mix because of the diverse range of breaks tracks that are out there right now. I'd categorize people who listen to breaks on this forum as former trance addicts who just grew out of the trance phase. Breaks in many ways is the logical next step if you're not into the big room trance sound...

I'd say the bigger fad has been the acceptance of dark NYC house because that's something that Toronto wants...which isn't surprisng given that most clubbers either want to party under the lasers...or in the basement/warehouse type setting. If you enjoy the darkness, then DDTT is for you...

otherwise there's always Armin, Tiesto and Fairy Corsten ready to deliver the fluffiness.

nu skool breaks is the biggest bandwagon I've ever seen ... the old skool breakers kept to their genre from day one. I've known these breakers for a while and they've been in the scene for 16 yrs

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH DDTT is bigger imo, but it's not a fad. Maybe the term is, but house is getting stronger and stronger

Was it ever weak though ? House has always been well represented, it's just that trance became huge for the last 5-6 years and because the trance sound is more commerically marketable, house and the other genres took a backseat. While i wouldn't say they have returned to their underground roots, i think house music has been reinvented by producers who aren't sticking to just one genre, and that has been the key in success of house music over the last few years.

House is back -- and it's back with an attitude.

Well I was talking about TA, specifically. When I got into it 3 years ago most people on here were still in the trance phase. Obviously there was that group of people who were into house from way before, but that was a small minority. Slowly but surely, more and more people have converted

DDTT is a variation of house, I would say I was more into that then nu school breaks. Old school breaks are where its at, especially with a twist of funk.

I think almost everyone on here was into trance originally.

For me I went from trance, to techno, to house. I still love techno, not so much the trance(I find it to cheese and melodic, there are still a few good trance tracks though.)
House has such a great variety recently.

I really liked the jungle/dnb about 3 years ago, but I havent heard anything original to date.

Now I like to hear varierty in a set, if you can make the tracks work together and sound smooth, you gots talent.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Well I was talking about TA, specifically. When I got into it 3 years ago most people on here were still in the trance phase. Obviously there was that group of people who were into house from way before, but that was a small minority. Slowly but surely, more and more people have converted

Agreed. I too came to this site because i was getting into trance in a city which was all about House. I needed a place to download my favorite PVD sets and singles (Yeah...i confess PVD still = GOD in my book, even though it's been years since i've heard him live or even listen to his sets)

I was on a NYC board back in the day...but if you ever talked about Trance on that board you'd get roasted by NYC house heads. I remember it was thru that board that i went to check out Danny T for the first time in 98...Man, what an education.

People need to open their eyes to the different form of music available out there. I think the only reason people these days talk trash about trance is because people who love trance aren't accepting of any other type of EDM. It's like if you enjoy trance, then progressive has to be boring...or house has to be gay. It's this type of attitude that usually pisses of people who retaliate by saying trance is cheesy and commercial. Truth is, i'm pretty sure there is some really great trance being produced...it's just harder to find now that there are so many mediocre producers dumping their garbage into the mix as well.

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I agree with Tomeboy...old school breaks rock ! I've fallen in love with the hip hop style breaks as well and usually prefere a little fusion with hip hop and breaks when i hear it at the club. Breakbeats and Hip Hop go hand in hand, so if you know your history or were ever a bboy/ breaks head then you know what i'm talking about.

Hybrized breaks are also a big favorite...that big breaks sound works exceptionally well in a club, and if you're comming from a hip hop background then i think breaks offers the easiest transition into EDM. House would be next because of it's close association with RnB and Soul.

i went through EDM path from Hard Techno ->House ->Hardstyle ->Trance -> NRG(UK/FI Hard House)->Breaks ->Hard Trance -> Progressive and now mainstream Hard Trance again.


i still listen to all those styles except hardstyle,and i love them eqaly :P

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Originally posted by E2EK1EL nu skool breaks is the biggest bandwagon I've ever seen ... the old skool breakers kept to their genre from day one. I've known these breakers for a while and they've been in the scene for 16 yrs

Yeah but there's a difference between guys who love breakbeats and come from a bboying/hip hop background and people who currently enjoy the EDM form of breaks which is really just layered breaks with many elements of trance and progressive thrown in.

Bboys don't listen to hybridized breaks...they prefere pharcyde, the roots, blackstar, africa bambatta etc. Nu-skool is simply an attempt to expand on the breakbeat sound by incorportating other successful elements in a track. As a result nu-skool is neither true to hip hop roots, nor completely electronic either...it's simply a different beast which has been accepted by people who wouldn't have enjoyed old skool breaks as much.

is DDTT a tota acronym or is this used everywhere?

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Originally posted by Flec is DDTT a tota acronym or is this used everywhere?

It's a TOTA thing...but people act as if it's a new genre or something.

I say combine the two and get the best of both worlds.

RPO's Dark Tribal (Saeed Younan mix) - nuskool techy midpaced MONSTER

Not much of a breaks fan.. DDTT all the way!

DDTT is a fad but the nuskool breakers have been, are and always will be nu skool breakers..


thats why when a breaks party comes around, we know who the usual suspects on TOTA are that will most definitely show up

You know your music very well I was at Danny Teneglia last night at Crobar NYC - 2 hour wait to get in! He played a lot of dark NYC house. Was a good night! What's interesting is that I'm hearing Toronto influence that sound. It's getting techier. If you like DDTT, Hector Romero has a monthly residency here first friday of every month. I noticed his sound is getting toronto-sized

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Originally posted by Kytracid To me DDTT is just another label for what i've always known as NYC House / NYC Dark House. The only difference is that nowadays there's more fusion between genres, so you get house tracks that incorporate the tribally aspects with the drums and have that techno inspired punchy sound. It's the same sleazy, chunky beats that have been around for the last 5-6 years. I've noticed it's become popular among TOTA's after Boa opened and they brought in a lot of DJ's who play that type of sound. Quite honestly, to me it's just an extension of the NYC sound now played with a Toronto flava which is more upbeat and tech-ier. So it's not so much a fad as a realization that house music doesn't always have to be soulfull vocals over disco beats. Don't really know if Nu-skool breaks was that big a fad in the first place...yea, quite a lot of people enjoy breaks, but personally i enjoy breaks more at home then at the club. The breaks junkies on this forum actually seem to have a broad range of genres they enjoy with everything from progressive to chillout thrown into the mix because of the diverse range of breaks tracks that are out there right now. I'd categorize people who listen to breaks on this forum as former trance addicts who just grew out of the trance phase. Breaks in many ways is the logical next step if you're not into the big room trance sound... I'd say the bigger fad has been the acceptance of dark NYC house because that's something that Toronto wants...which isn't surprisng given that most clubbers either want to party under the lasers...or in the basement/warehouse type setting. If you enjoy the darkness, then DDTT is for you... otherwise there's always Armin, Tiesto and Fairy Corsten ready to deliver the fluffiness.

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Originally posted by avikonen It's getting techier. If you like DDTT, Hector Romero has a monthly residency here first friday of every month. I noticed his sound is getting toronto-sized

Godd 2 hear

I've actually had the pleasure to partii to most of EDM genre's and IMO breaks partier's are the best, better than Hause sometimes. Long live breaks partier's @ System!

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH It's a TOTA thing...but people act as if it's a new genre or something.

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Originally posted by tomeboy DDTT is a variation of house, I would say I was more into that then nu school breaks. Old school breaks are where its at, especially with a twist of funk.

2-3 months ago i would totally agree with you, it was all about old school, james brown remixes, and that sweet, sweet phat funk.

and then freq nasty came and NU SKOOL-ed me big time( i'll always remember the night when i fucked up my leg dancing, he was THAT good).

since then i'm a believer (but i still preffer old school).

sid, we gotta party soon. it's been a while bro

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH It's a TOTA thing...but people act as if it's a new genre or something.

oh peter.

don't fight it.

DDTT will own all of the world.

We have to spread the word!!

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH but people act as if it's a new genre or something.

I don't recall anybody saying it was a new genre, new style or a new anything - but ok.

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Originally posted by Kytracid DDTT is just another label for what i've always known as NYC House / NYC Dark House. The only difference is that nowadays there's more fusion between genres, so you get house tracks that incorporate the tribally aspects with the drums and have that techno inspired punchy sound. It's the same sleazy, chunky beats that have been around for the last 5-6 years. I've noticed it's become popular among TOTA's after Boa opened and they brought in a lot of DJ's who play that type of sound. Quite honestly, to me it's just an extension of the NYC sound now played with a Toronto flava which is more upbeat and tech-ier. So it's not so much a fad as a realization that house music doesn't always have to be soulfull vocals over disco beats.

Agree 100% with the above.

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