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Posted by dj_helen_k on Mar-12-2005 23:05:

DJs Chris Kross and Pee Wee Ferris in trouble for using illegal tracks!

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National...0567753511.html
$800,000 is one hefty fine.....

thoughts?



Posted by 00soups00 on Mar-12-2005 23:11:

800,000 seems like a lot, but when you read through the article, it seems kind of appropriate -

"The decision marked the end of a court case stretching over 2 years that included evidence of SMS threats and bullying by Fraser-Smith. Record companies, including Sony and Universal, initiated action against Ferris, Fraser-Smith and several other DJs in 2002.

Federal Court judge Peter Jacobson on Friday found Fraser-Smith had produced eight copyright-infringing CDs, including Happy Valley 1991 To 2001 - A Decade Of Dance and Hard Trance.

A CD of Ferris's DJ work was titled peeweeferris.com digital domination.

The CDs of both DJs contained 17 remixed works that were produced without permission of recording artists and other DJs."

and

"Evidence was also presented to the court that Fraser-Smith had sent threatening SMS messages to record company executives responsible for music licensing."


i mean this is for people who are making money off selling these cd's to the public...

so fukn oath they should be anally penetrated in the back pocket!!!


Posted by eRRaTiK on Mar-12-2005 23:17:

*pokes helen and runs*


Posted by dj_helen_k on Mar-12-2005 23:18:

quote:
Originally posted by eRRaTiK
*pokes helen and runs*



hehehe allo allo! its just past 11.20pm here in london and i cant sleep!.... whats new in syd!!


re: aus scene
How is it?....is the scene as good or if not better now? or is it still the same?..

x hels


Posted by batemanscott on Mar-12-2005 23:36:

This will sound harsh, but i think anyone playing unpaid for mp3 should be aware that this is what deservingly happens.

If you haven't paid for the music, you don't have the right to play it as a part of "your sound".


Posted by eRRaTiK on Mar-12-2005 23:37:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_helen_k
re: aus scene
How is it?....is the scene as good or if not better now? or is it still the same?..

x hels


heya babes ! 11.20pm is still early ! miss partyin with ya *cry*

well i can't speak for melb - soups would have a better idea.

We've got some talented producers coming out of both states i think.

Syd scene is doing alright imo.

Attendance for two tribes last week was great for an 18+ event (last two years was 15+). too bad about the production (sound cutting out after prodigy's first song, then it took 40 mins to bring it back up).

there's a few regular trance events happening which is good to see.

commercial house has hit here in a big way. only 8 months since i heard most of the (now popular) tracks when i was in europe. slow ass OZ hahaha

breaks and hard trance still popular. subbies is still subbies.

i think those who are more open to varied forms of EDM will have no problem having a good night out.

...

as for peewee... pwned!


Posted by 00soups00 on Mar-12-2005 23:41:

quote:
Originally posted by batemanscott
This will sound harsh, but i think anyone playing unpaid for mp3 should be aware that this is what deservingly happens.

If you haven't paid for the music, you don't have the right to play it as a part of "your sound".


i think its a bit different when you compare playing, or mixing a promo cd, to that of actually making this available for retail purchase.


Posted by batemanscott on Mar-12-2005 23:43:

Sorry soups but whilst i think the penalty should be less in the case of promo's etc, i still think you should pay for what you play.


Posted by 00soups00 on Mar-13-2005 00:11:

well now, considering the amount of digital downlaods available, yes you should..


Posted by stamper on Mar-13-2005 00:31:

$800,000 seems like a lot, and it is a lot, but they would've known when putting the CD's together that they were doing it illegally. Serves them right.


Posted by waXology on Mar-13-2005 01:12:

this happened in 2002 but only came before federal court now, so its sorta old i guess.

i dont know how you can be so stupid to sell CD's you havent licensed! argh! insane


Posted by Antistatic on Mar-13-2005 02:44:

Suck shit morons!

Fraser-Smith is a complete idiot.


Posted by gilmista on Mar-13-2005 05:04:

Theres no doubt about it that re-working on other people's tracks and releasing it without their permission or even acknowledging those artists is completely wrong.

but ouch!! that is one mighty hefty fine.. i guess the best way to get the message across is to be harsh.


Posted by marsh on Mar-15-2005 05:49:

quote:
Originally posted by batemanscott
This will sound harsh, but i think anyone playing unpaid for mp3 should be aware that this is what deservingly happens.

If you haven't paid for the music, you don't have the right to play it as a part of "your sound".


And with the abundance of very affordable 320k dowloadable mp3's, so you fucking should. Sad thing is, this will be very hard (verging on impossible) to regulate/enforce, as in the cited example, the infringement was cd's being sold commercially, not tracks being played out. Hell- I'm still a fan of the odd bootie if it's unreleased, but if I can pay for the download, I will.

Hence, the battle is one of principle - to get dj's & music lovers comfortable with the idea of shelling out the whole $3 bucks for a legal download because they know it supports the artists and the industry.


Posted by Aesthetic on Mar-15-2005 06:11:

chris chros will make ya, jump jump .. bulleedatttttt


Posted by Philby on Mar-15-2005 13:20:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveBegic
chris chros will make ya, jump jump .. bulleedatttttt


haha i thought about it but decided i would pass


Posted by eRRaTiK on Mar-15-2005 13:28:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveBegic
chris chros will make ya, jump jump .. bulleedatttttt


Jump Jump!
The Mac Dad will make you jump jump!
The Daddy Mac will make you jump jump!
Chris Kross will make you jump jump!



werd.



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