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Posted by Laughingfennec on Mar-14-2005 09:16:

The ["did the producer make this melody himself?"] thread.

I had an idea about a thread like that, as there are some tracks i doubt the producer himself create the melody, but as i don't know i start with some tracks i wonder if the melody is taken from another piece of music (classical music for example) or not...


Abel Ramos vs Shane 54 - Kippenvelmeter (Original mix)
Shane 54 - Vampire (Short club mix)


any idea?
and add yours.


Posted by Cosmic on Mar-14-2005 10:33:

Adagio for Strings (Ferry + Tiesto remix)
Rollerball - Albinoni
ASYS - No More Fucking Rock&Roll


Posted by Laughingfennec on Mar-14-2005 10:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic
Adagio for Strings (Ferry + Tiesto remix)
Rollerball - Albinoni
ASYS - No More Fucking Rock&Roll


hey the thread is not about tracks you DO know the melody is not from the trance producer but about tracks you don't know if the trance producer created the melody himself


Posted by DJ Cinos on Mar-14-2005 10:56:

Tiesto - Forever Today


Posted by Camwin on Mar-14-2005 10:59:

been wondering that too Cinos
Oh and Taucher - "Pictures of a gallery" piano?


Posted by eulerfx on Mar-14-2005 11:51:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cinos
Tiesto - Forever Today


I think Tiesto had the same guy that composed the classical piece for "Magik Journey" do the classical piece for "Forever Today" but Tiesto made the riff on his own. As far as it being similar to the Terminator theme, he said he has not seen Terminator prior to producing the track, and only later was he told that they are similar.

I'm wondering about Xpander. Exactly what part did Sasha himself have in the production of the track. I've heard that the melody is similar to a track by Junkie XL. On the credits it says produced by Sasha, written by somebody else, etc. So did Sasha just sequence the whole thing, and engineer the sounds or did he have any musical influence as well?


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-14-2005 12:37:

u guys should search


http://tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&forumid=1&threadid=71279


Posted by RebeL9 on Mar-14-2005 12:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Camwin
been wondering that too Cinos
Oh and Taucher - "Pictures of a gallery" piano?


I have an old liveset of Taucher where he starts of by playing a really nice classic piece and from that tune he mixes over to Pictures of a gallery in a very galant style. So Im sure that melody is from a classic piece


Posted by RebeL9 on Mar-14-2005 12:40:

quote:
Originally posted by eulerfx
I think Tiesto had the same guy that composed the classical piece for "Magik Journey" do the classical piece for "Forever Today" but Tiesto made the riff on his own. As far as it being similar to the Terminator theme, he said he has not seen Terminator prior to producing the track, and only later was he told that they are similar.

I'm wondering about Xpander. Exactly what part did Sasha himself have in the production of the track. I've heard that the melody is similar to a track by Junkie XL. On the credits it says produced by Sasha, written by somebody else, etc. So did Sasha just sequence the whole thing, and engineer the sounds or did he have any musical influence as well?


most of Xpander is written and produced by Charlie May


Posted by GrimReaper on Mar-14-2005 12:55:

quote:
Originally posted by eulerfx
I'm wondering about Xpander. Exactly what part did Sasha himself have in the production of the track. I've heard that the melody is similar to a track by Junkie XL. On the credits it says produced by Sasha, written by somebody else, etc. So did Sasha just sequence the whole thing, and engineer the sounds or did he have any musical influence as well?

Actually Xpander uses elements from Spooky - Little Bullet (1992), which funnily enough is a production of Charlie May too. Sasha has always known what he has wanted but he hasn't got the "capability" to put it out just like he would have wanted to.. so that's where May and other collaborators come in.. to make Sasha's ideas real. Might have been Sasha's idea but May made it to happen.


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-14-2005 12:59:

Xpander written by A. Coe, D. Forbes, C. May. Produced by Sasha and Charlie May. Mixed by Neil NcLellan for Strongroom Management.

Belfunk written by A. Coe, C. May.
Produced and mixed by Sasha and Charlie May.

Rabbitweed & Baja writen by A. Coe. Produced by Sasha, A. Page and G. Schumer. Engineered by A. Page & G. Schumer.

http://www.discogs.com/release/58337


Posted by colonelcrisp on Mar-14-2005 15:28:

i never saw the big deal with xpander, its ok but I never really went head over heels for it....


i was listning to Capella - U got 2 let the music the other day and it sounds stupidly similar to Antiloop - In my mind. the sequencing is a bit different but the chord progressions are scarily similar.


Posted by aloep on Mar-14-2005 15:38:

Watergate - Heart Of Asia
Watergate - Maid Of Orleans
Watergate - Mull Of Kintyre
Sundance - Sundance
Kayashi - Furyo (Tevendale's Tunnel Mix)

As for "Xpander", IMO it's a fantastic track but sounds too much like Spooky - Little Bullet (Live Version) (1993) (which I prefer over Xpander) which was also produced by Charlie May, so I doubt the similarity is a coincidence.


Posted by torontotrance on Mar-14-2005 16:58:

josh wink's superfreak was blatantly stolen from Dan Bell's Superphreak

Atb's beach song was the scorchio melody in guitar

but the one that gets me now is the 12th track on CD1 on GU Lights Out 2, it reminds me so much of Timo Maas's mix of Star 69


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-14-2005 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
josh wink's superfreak was blatantly stolen from Dan Bell's Superphreak

Atb's beach song was the scorchio melody in guitar

but the one that gets me now is the 12th track on CD1 on GU Lights Out 2, it reminds me so much of Timo Maas's mix of Star 69



will u close this thread??? its the same as the other...


Posted by memusa on Mar-14-2005 17:35:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
josh wink's superfreak was blatantly stolen from Dan Bell's Superphreak


Haven't heard this one but I read in Discogs that this was a sort of updated version of the one Dan Bell did.


Posted by Laughingfennec on Mar-14-2005 18:11:

sandstorm03, originally this is not a thread about trance melodies that sound like other trance tracks, it's a thread about trance melodies you wonder if the trance producer composed by himself the melody or took it from something like a classical music song, read my first post. It's something like you hear a tune and you are really amazed by the melody, you are impressed and you really wonder if the producer didn't took this melody from another piece of music, but not trance, i mean classical music, or new age music, or somethng like that. It's not the same thread as the trance tracks which sound like other trance tracks. No reason to close it.

I still wonder if Shane 54 composed by himself the 2 melodies i mentioned in my 1st post, cause it sounds like classical music or something...


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-14-2005 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Laughingfennec
sandstorm03, originally this is not a thread about trance melodies that sound like other trance tracks, it's a thread about trance melodies you wonder if the trance producer composed by himself the melody or took it from something like a classical music song, read my first post. It's something like you hear a tune and you are really amazed by the melody, you are impressed and you really wonder if the producer didn't took this melody from another piece of music, but not trance, i mean classical music, or new age music, or somethng like that. It's not the same thread as the trance tracks which sound like other trance tracks. No reason to close it.

I still wonder if Shane 54 composed by himself the 2 melodies i mentioned in my 1st post, cause it sounds like classical music or something...


its the same exact thing... The other thread is not about melodies... its about any part of a track that is similar. wether its classical, rock, rap whatever


Posted by Snooper on Mar-14-2005 18:20:

quote:
Originally posted by aloep
Watergate - Heart Of Asia
Kayashi - Furyo (Tevendale's Tunnel Mix)


You're right about these two, both sampled the melody of a famous japanese track, "Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence" by Ryuichi Sakamoto.

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
its the same exact thing... The other thread is not about melodies... its about any part of a track that is similar. wether its classical, rock, rap whatever


stfu


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-14-2005 18:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Snooper
You're right about these two, both sampled the melody of a famous japanese track, "Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence" by Ryuichi Sakamoto.



stfu


who are you?


Posted by Snooper on Mar-14-2005 18:31:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
who are you?


I'm just finding your complaints pretty boring, if you don't have anything more constructive to add to the thread get out and do something else will ya?


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-14-2005 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Snooper
I'm just finding your complaints pretty boring, if you don't have anything more constructive to add to the thread get out and do something else will ya?


want me to add to the thread ill give u a nice big list


Posted by AlonMiz on Mar-14-2005 19:38:

Re: The ["did the producer make this melody himself?"] thread.

quote:
Originally posted by Laughingfennec
I had an idea about a thread like that, as there are some tracks i doubt the producer himself create the melody, but as i don't know i start with some tracks i wonder if the melody is taken from another piece of music (classical music for example) or not...


Abel Ramos vs Shane 54 - Kippenvelmeter (Original mix)
Shane 54 - Vampire (Short club mix)


any idea?
and add yours.


yes im wondering about these tracks too. i know that equnoxe 4 and souvenire de chine is not by him.
these 4 tracks are too beautiful!
i love him


Posted by dj tek on Mar-14-2005 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
most of Xpander is written and produced by Charlie May

actually, by Spooky aka Charlie May & Duncan Forbes...


Posted by sandstorm03 on Mar-14-2005 20:00:

quote:
i still think this not the same thread, the other thread mostly associated several trance tracks which sound similar...and the point of this thread also is to answer if you know who made the melody, who originally composed it...


well then you would have to look @ discogs/the vinyl to see who actually wrote the track...


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