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Posted by kelly923 on Mar-17-2005 20:00:

this is disgusting...

U.N.: Congo Militias Grilled Victims Alive

By EDDY ISANGO
KINSHASA, Congo (AP) - Militiamen grilled bodies on a spit and boiled two girls alive as their mother watched, U.N. peacekeepers charged Wednesday, adding cannibalism to a list of atrocities allegedly carried out by one of the tribal groups fighting in northeast Congo.

The report came as a key U.N. official said the ongoing violence in Congo, claiming thousands of lives every month, has made it the site of the world's worst humanitarian crisis.

The commander of U.N. forces in Congo, Gen. Patrick Cammaert, presented a report on abuses allegedly committed by the Patriotic Resistance Front of Ituri.

``Those responsible for atrocities will be brought to justice,'' Cammaert said.

Peacekeepers have also begun working to cut off weapons supplies to the group, which apparently entered the country from neighboring Uganda, he said.

Members of the group were suspected of killing nine U.N. peacekeepers in a Feb. 25 ambush. On March 1, gunmen fired on Pakistani peacekeepers and the peacekeepers fought back, killing up to 60 fighters, U.N. officials said at the time.

Congo became a battleground for six nations during a 1998-2002 war that killed some 50,000 people directly and another 3 million through strife-induced hunger and disease. But sporadic fighting continues between militiamen, rebels and government troops in the lawless northeast.

Jan Egeland, head of U.N Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, said Wednesday that the fighting in Congo had overtaken Sudan's embattled Darfur region as the world's most serious humanitarian crisis.

``Measured in human lives lost, I think that Congo is the number one problem in the world today,'' Egeland told reporters in Geneva, Switzerland.

About 3 million Congolese are now in acute need of assistance and as many as 30,000 people are dying every month from conflict-related causes, Egeland said.

The United Nations says Sudan's Darfur region remains a major crisis, estimating that about 180,000 people have died there since October 2003 and a further 1.8 million have been displaced.

Egeland said as many as 10,000 people may be dying there every month as a result of violence, disease or malnutrition.

The Darfur conflict began in February 2003, when rebels took up arms against the Arab-dominated government to win more political and economic rights for the region's African tribes.

The allegations of cannibalism in the U.N. report were from a summary of testimony from witnesses gathered over a year from hundreds of people who had been kidnapped by militias in the region. The report said that some victims were killed by torture and decapitation. Those not killed were held in labor camps and forced to work as fishermen, porters, domestic workers and sex slaves.

``Several witnesses reported cases of mutilation followed by death or decapitation,'' the report said.

The U.N. report included an account from Zainabo Alfani in which she said she was forced to watch rebels kill and eat two of her children in June 2003.

The report said, ``In one corner, there was already cooked flesh from bodies and two bodies being grilled on a barbecue and, at the same time, they prepared her two little girls, putting them alive in two big pots filled with boiling water and oil.''

Her youngest child was saved, apparently because at six months old it didn't have much flesh.

Alfani said she was gang-raped by the rebels and mutilated. She survived to tell her horror story, but died in the hospital on Sunday of AIDS contracted during her torture two years earlier, the U.N. report said.

The mother gave her account in February, but the U.N. waited to publish them until after her death for fear she would become a target for reprisal.

The new International Court of Justice in The Hague, Netherlands, said this week that its first cases will deal with war crimes committed in eastern Congo.


03/17/05 00:36

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Posted by DarkAngel on Mar-17-2005 20:01:

Good God Almighty...that's just barbaric.


Posted by Mr. Pink on Mar-17-2005 20:02:

Rasta

these people aren't humans.

gZUS.

so much hate


Posted by UWM on Mar-17-2005 20:05:

Uhh, remind me never to go there.


Posted by Xenocreator_PG_ on Mar-17-2005 20:24:

Re: this is disgusting...

quote:
Originally posted by kelly923

The U.N. report included an account from Zainabo Alfani in which she said she was forced to watch rebels kill and eat two of her children in June 2003.

The report said, ``In one corner, there was already cooked flesh from bodies and two bodies being grilled on a barbecue and, at the same time, they prepared her two little girls, putting them alive in two big pots filled with boiling water and oil.''

Her youngest child was saved, apparently because at six months old it didn't have much flesh.


Fuck. that is sick She was forced to watch as they boiled up & ate her children!!! that's bloody terrible!


Posted by nchs09 on Mar-17-2005 20:27:

its a sad world


Posted by beats and beeps on Mar-17-2005 20:30:

So what.

We boil crabs alive.

Asians scale, and fry fish alive, gutting (killing) them after they have been scaled and fried.

Whats the big deal?


Posted by Lira on Mar-17-2005 20:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
I blame the british.

Nou, Congo was a French colony.

It doesn't make the situation any different though, it's all too sad


Posted by UWM on Mar-17-2005 20:55:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
So what.

We boil crabs alive.

Asians scale, and fry fish alive, gutting (killing) them after they have been scaled and fried.

Whats the big deal?


For every animal you don't eat, I'll eat three.

You know that there have been recent studies that prove shellfish don't feel pain when they're boiled?


These are PEOPLE.


Posted by Slylee on Mar-17-2005 20:57:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
Uhh, remind me never to go there.


ahahah "but honey i was just looking at vacation packages for that place!"



on a more serious note...that story deserves a big

WTF


Posted by nchs09 on Mar-17-2005 20:59:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
So what.

We boil crabs alive.

Asians scale, and fry fish alive, gutting (killing) them after they have been scaled and fried.

Whats the big deal?
dont be such a fucking prick u ass....


Posted by Slylee on Mar-17-2005 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
So what.

We boil crabs alive.

Asians scale, and fry fish alive, gutting (killing) them after they have been scaled and fried.

Whats the big deal?



HAHAHAHH!! LOOK MOM, A MORON!


Posted by beats and beeps on Mar-17-2005 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
For every animal you don't eat, I'll eat three.

You know that there have been recent studies that prove shellfish don't feel pain when they're boiled?


These are PEOPLE.

So the shelfish dont feel pain. Do you know there have been recent studies that prove a humans dont feel pain when they die from carbon monoxide poisoning, oh and lethal injection too! Perhaps these children were given some magical choom choom juice, which would make them feel no pain, does that make it less of a horrible thing? Are these tribals suddenly humanitarians?

BTW, I eat meat.


Posted by Masonious on Mar-17-2005 21:08:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM

You know that there have been recent studies that prove shellfish don't feel pain when they're boiled?


These are PEOPLE.


Which takes away all the fun of eating shellfish. That little scream that crabs do when they get dropped in the pot was high comedy, but only because I thought it was pure agony. I suppose I need to start hanging them by their claws until they dehydrate / starve. It's the least they deserve for being so delicious yet producing so little food.

Oh yeah, and Africa needs to be f'ing blitzkrieg'd. the women are pretty cool, i never hear of them doing a damn thing but being murdered, raped etc... the men need to be castrated and sent to heavy labor camps for 20 years.

f'ing bastards


Posted by UWM on Mar-17-2005 21:12:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
So the shelfish dont feel pain. Do you know there have been recent studies that prove a humans dont feel pain when they die from carbon monoxide poisoning, oh and lethal injection too! Perhaps these children were given some magical choom choom juice, which would make them feel no pain, does that make it less of a horrible thing? Are these tribals suddenly humanitarians?

BTW, I eat meat.


That's one of the worst analogies I've ever heard.


Posted by beats and beeps on Mar-17-2005 21:15:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
That's one of the worst analogies I've ever heard.

Perhaps I'll be a better writer when I'm your age. But for now, you'll have to work with what I give you.


Posted by UWM on Mar-17-2005 21:23:

It's not the writing, really. It's the fundamentally flawed logic that's the problem.


Posted by Michael19 on Mar-17-2005 21:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
inb4thebbq




this was in another thread, but its alot more fitting for this one i think!


Posted by Miss Bliss on Mar-17-2005 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Michael19
this was in another thread, but its alot more fitting for this one i think!






Posted by UWM on Mar-17-2005 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Michael19
this was in another thread, but its alot more fitting for this one i think!


You have a bad sense of humor.


Posted by DarkAngel on Mar-17-2005 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
You have a bad sense of humor.


Agreed.


Jeez, some people.


Posted by nchs09 on Mar-17-2005 21:36:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
You have a bad sense of humor.
+2


Posted by AirPole on Mar-17-2005 21:38:

Yes Boys & Girls,


Thats how life outside is, when you leave your computer...
It's called the real world, and i hate it

War is THE thing a person should never have to experience in his/her life.(Besides living in Holland and being lead by a person called JP Balkenende )


Posted by DarkAngel on Mar-17-2005 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceZoner
Besides living in Holland and being lead by a person called JP Balkenende )




Posted by beats and beeps on Mar-17-2005 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by UWM
It's not the writing, really. It's the fundamentally flawed logic that's the problem.

It isnt logic, its my fucked up teenage beleifs.

People die all of the time, young people and old people. Its on the news all the time, but you grow immune to it, like "oh yeah, someone got shot, yeah thats a shame" In fact many times, I've heard unsavoury people on this forum smirk at an ironic, or funny death in the news, but when its children being eaten its all of the sudden "OH GOOD GAWD THEY COOKED AND ATE THEM GOOD GAWD THATS THE WORST THING IN MY LIFE I NEVER MY WORD I JUST CANT THOSE BASTARDS LETS ALL BOMB AFRICA"

My comment was not intended to be taken completly seriously, and I honestly think you realise that. On the otherhand it was not a "joke" As I do feel that its annoying that most people feel human lives are so much more valuable than others, and that we, being humans, must feel pain on so many more levels than other beings.

Like you said, "shellfish dont feel pain, but these are PEOPLE" And when you said that, you made it seem that boiling crabs alive a perfectly humane way to prepare a crab, and that these people being "HUMAN" made it just that much worse. And I asked you a question, if these humans were given a concoction that would make them feel no pain when being boiled (lets call it magic shellfishlike power drink!) would it make it less of a horrible doing?


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