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Posted by keithos27 on Mar-21-2005 17:42:

Tilt - Invisible (Tilt's Supernatural Mix)

I couldn't find the old threads via search, so thought I'd just post a new one...

Everyone knows the old story/myth about Tilt's Supernatural Mix (NOT dub) played on Oakey's EM in Cuba. This was being debated in the SSL forum and some guy posted the following...

"actually, the Supernatural MIX does NOT exist. i've talked to the boys at Hooj and have discussed this in detail with them (Ross and Christian). what you hear on Oakenfold's Essential Mix from Cuba is actually just a quick splice of some special vocals over top of the Supernatural Dub. apparently, Oakenfold was able to obtain some exclusive "Invisible" vocals (from Red Jerry...the label's owner) and this is what he used during that Essential Mix. if you listen closely you can actually hear him fade out the Supernatural Dub and into the vocals section. a few mins later he fades out of the vocals and back into the breakdown in the Supernatural Dub. this was somehow mislabeled as the Supernatural Mix and caused Tilt fans to start searching for this "new" mix. but the truth is...it does not exist.

now if you really want to track down a rare remix of "Invisible", see if you can find a CDR copy of the Courtyard Mix. this was a special ambient version done by Red Jerry for inclusion in his Chilled Euphoria compilation. and according to the Hooj crew this was not even made available to them. i saw this once on eBay a few years back (someone was supposedly selling a CDR with the full, unmixed verions of it) but i failed to jump on it in time and have not seen it anywhere else since. however, this mix does exist. it really is just an extended version of the Supernatural Dub breaksown but it is rather cool. i was thinking of trying to splice this mix with a few vocals and with the Supernatural Dub to create a triple hybrid that combine all the best elements...but i have been unable to find a copy of the Courtyard Mix anywwhere. happy hunting.....and good luck."

Just a little FYI for everyone. DAMN shame really.

Can we get an Invisible 2005 with a Supernatural Mix???
-Keith


Posted by GrimReaper on Mar-21-2005 18:04:

Good to know so we can stop the endless hunting for it.

Back in the day i remember seeing also a few CDRs of the Courtyard Mix floating around on auction sites and other obscure places but for ridiculous prices. It's a good chill tune but i already have more than enough other tunes to hunt down so i'll probably pass this one.. and let others look for it instead.


Posted by RebeL9 on Mar-21-2005 18:55:

would also be cool if someone found Dutch Force - Deadline (Moonwatcher's Dead Calm Remix).
I mailed Moonwatcher about this remix and even he doesnt have a copy of it. Strange enough he remixed it
I bet there are only one or two copies of it in the world


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-21-2005 19:25:

well...i guess that would make sense hehehe


Posted by keithos27 on Mar-21-2005 19:49:

Yeah I found it interesting, and disappointing at the same time. Does it indeed make sense to all of you? Can you hear what that person was talking about?

-Keith


Posted by montana on Mar-21-2005 20:09:

i understood, and it makes sense now really, that is why the supposed supernatural mix had such a long breakdown (i mean i don't think tilt would ever do a track with ike a 4min breakdown). and that also explains why mick parks didn't know anything about this supposed version


Posted by civicstyle on Mar-22-2005 04:54:

...and yet another mystery of the essential mix world tour '99 is solved. Tune in next week to find out what really is that ID from Shanghai China.


Posted by tortoise on Mar-26-2005 00:59:

quote:
Originally posted by keithos27
Yeah I found it interesting, and disappointing at the same time. Does it indeed make sense to all of you? Can you hear what that person was talking about?

-Keith


yes. right after peat tong u can here the melidoy but it quickely fades out.

but i all ways though that was tilt's human mix. so if the Supernatural Mix does not exist, dose the human one relley exist? becouse i know iver seen it on discogs.com


Posted by auranaut on Mar-26-2005 01:27:

Makes sense technically... but I can't imagine Oakey using an acappella.


Posted by Floorfiller on Mar-26-2005 01:32:

quote:
Originally posted by tortoise
yes. right after peat tong u can here the melidoy but it quickely fades out.

but i all ways though that was tilt's human mix. so if the Supernatural Mix does not exist, dose the human one relley exist? becouse i know iver seen it on discogs.com


yes the human mix does exist...quite a few TA's have vinyl copies...including that bastard that started this thread hehehe


Posted by RebeL9 on Mar-26-2005 12:21:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
would also be cool if someone found Dutch Force - Deadline (Moonwatcher's Dead Calm Remix).
I mailed Moonwatcher about this remix and even he doesnt have a copy of it. Strange enough he remixed it
I bet there are only one or two copies of it in the world


Ok i take that back


Posted by Simcut on Mar-26-2005 12:51:

Smile

me still want Lex - Vertical Horizon <3


Posted by tortoise on Mar-26-2005 13:59:

i wonder if the human mix sounds anything like the track oakey played in havana


Posted by montana on Mar-26-2005 14:06:

the Human Mix is an early version of the Original Vocal Mix


Posted by RebeL9 on Mar-26-2005 14:12:

can anyone post a sample of the human mix? :E


Posted by webbie on Mar-26-2005 14:21:

quote:
Originally posted by racing4hoes
...and yet another mystery of the essential mix world tour '99 is solved. Tune in next week to find out what really is that ID from Shanghai China.



Posted by VietKid on Mar-26-2005 17:06:

lost tribe remix owns!!!


Posted by tortoise on Mar-26-2005 18:37:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
the Human Mix is an early version of the Original Vocal Mix



ok that ansers a lot of questions. thnks

if anyone can post a sample of the human mix i would be greatful.


Posted by keithos27 on Mar-26-2005 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
yes the human mix does exist...quite a few TA's have vinyl copies...including that bastard that started this thread hehehe


i'll pretend i didn't read that...

*cough*

*cough*


Posted by keithos27 on Mar-30-2005 20:05:

UPDATE....

Spoke with this guy at Hooj and he told me...

"it doesn�t really exist, There is a mix of vocals and pads which
oakey mixed in on the shanghai as you say. But I haven�t found that in
the extensive masters collection either."

*He meant Cuba

I had then asked if he had any other info on the matter...

"No but there is no Courtyard Mix... it is just Jay Burnet the mix man
looping around elements of the SuperN Dub. It only exists on his
mastering system so anyone who says they have a copy I suspect is BS."

So I guess we can all put this to rest now...

-Keith


Posted by keithos27 on Aug-01-2005 15:50:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
can anyone post a sample of the human mix? :E


should be one on www.juno.co.uk


Posted by ga11agher on Jan-19-2006 00:06:

so should the track indeed be labeled 'Paul Oakenfold Mix' ???

emmm... i just read the above comment back to myself and realised how stupid that comment was....

I guess it should be something along the lines of... Tilt featuring Dominique Atkins - Invisible (Tilts Supernatural Mix) (Paul Oakenfold Edit).


Posted by keithos27 on Jan-19-2006 03:34:

I still do not know... I've asked Mick Wilson. He has no idea. I've asked John Graham. He has no idea. I've asked Mick Parks. He still has not gotten back to me. Maybe this will just never be officially solved?


Posted by keithos27 on Feb-18-2006 04:03:

*Update #2*

Mick Parks finally got back to me and... it DOES exist! In Mick Parks' own words... "...Yes it is a new mix but it was a one off we did for the Ess mix...". So it does exist, but NO there are no vinyls of it for sale. Shame really... So much for one day collecting 100% of the EM World Tour tunes.

And regarding the Human Mix here is some info for you all that I just added to Discogs...

This release was a double A-sided DJ only test pressing done following the demise of East West and Perfecto's relationship. Tilt found themselves with no way to release their additional work and thus we have this test pressing... Only 50 copies were ever pressed.

"Invisible" was originally released on Perfecto with the title "Rendezvous". Dominique Atkins a.k.a. Grace heard "Rendezvous" and soon after wrote a song. "Invisible" was born.

"The Seduction Of Orpheus" was created as a piece of music for a friend of Tilt's who had a showing of his collection at London Graduate Fashion Week. Sasha fell in love with the track and soon after he had stolen the DAT and an acetate was cut and whilst in New York doing his Twilo residency Danny Tenaglia demanded that he take Sasha's slate. Sasha had to cut another copy. At that point only Sasha, Danny and Tilt had copies. Demand was so great that Tilt decided to put "The Seduction Of Orpheus" on the flip of this test pressing.

As mentioned in the comment above this is a great mix of "Invisible"... a bit more dark with some extra vocals it should have been the release everyone had a chance to play. As the story goes only 50 test pressings were ever made so sadly not everyone could play this one out. S12 released this mix of "Invisible" in 2005.


Posted by montana on Feb-18-2006 04:18:

ok so the correct labeling would be

Tilt - Invisble (Tilt's Supernatural Mix) (Essential Mix Edit)?


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