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Chords?

Hello,

I was wondering if there are chords that are better suited for trance music?

I guess when it comes to scales then it really doesn't matter as long as its not too high or too low, right?

btw. Just wanted to take the opportunity to say hello to everyone at TranceAddict (my first post hehe )

Thanks,

helloooooooo! welcome! remember not to go near mr mystery whilst you stay here! he may eat you! (he has been known to eat trance babies whole)

only kidding ^_________^ :grin:

with regards to music theory. its nice to have it in mind. but i wouldnt adhere to it too rigidly. anything can really work if its in teh proper context and all the different parts and melodies work together. theres nothing worse than a typical A minor/F major 7th trancer. that one hasnt been done before. oh no...

hehe

I will watch out for this person

I guess the best thing to do is just experiment lots, no other way around it. It would be nice if there was some trick for creating melodies.

There is no trick in making melodies..the true and only real trick is your mind..u provide the ideas and just think of something.What i do is hum a melody..just outta nowhere and then i try n make it on the keyboard..if that doesnt work..i just start hittin random keys until i come up with a very simple chord...tehn i begin to make it complex.

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I will watch out for this person

hes not a person. hes a BEAST. an inhuman monsta, twisted into bitterness by the retardedness of countless tranceaddicts in training...that do *not* use the search tool and think stickies are messy wank related accidents.

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Originally posted by Derivative hes not a person. hes a BEAST. an inhuman monsta, twisted into bitterness by the retardedness of countless tranceaddicts in training...that do *not* use the search tool and think stickies are messy wank related accidents.

lol

A late one again huh

im supposed to be doing an essay. but i find myself here and listening to tunes. im so gonna fail this year.

You should try create some chords with 7, and make some sequence using Phrygian, Lydian or Dorian scale mode...

But, there's no rule... Check this topic:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=221759

there is no logical way, jus sit & jam on a keyboard, if the chords you make sound good then you're onto a winner. Creativity more than logical

Since it's melodies where the producer gets to be really creative, asking for chord progressions isn't too bad.

General advice is:

Start in minor, unless you're going for a happy sound.

VI, III, and iv (that would be F major, C major, and D minor if your tonic key is A minor) all sound very nice in trance, so use them.

v (e minor if you start in A) sounds good at the end of progressions.


Remember, change the key to anything you want, these are just for a minor.


This is just 1 way to make a progression though. Only fall back on advice like this if you really can't think of anything. Either that or do a remix .

Re: Chords?

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Originally posted by Motion12 Hello, I was wondering if there are chords that are better suited for trance music? I guess when it comes to scales then it really doesn't matter as long as its not too high or too low, right? btw. Just wanted to take the opportunity to say hello to everyone at TranceAddict (my first post hehe ) Thanks,

maybe the best start is, when you make a decent sounding melody, write down the notes you used for it, and use them for your chords, and use the first note of your melody as root note of the first chord. after that, experiment and use what sounds good.

Thank you guys for these good replies.

It seems that theory helps but at the end of the day you have to experiment lots to get something interesting.

Is it just me or minors sound much better for trance then majors?

Are there any softwares that assist you with creating melodies. I mean, ones that will show you related chords to advance in chord progression?

a good technique to use is to:

play a note. play another note. perhaps come up with a progression of notes.

THEN:

flesh said notes out with the chords that feel right. w/e

i take one scale and experiment with notes from it all way through the tune,i don't even know what chords have with this,is it posible to use other notes than scale?

OK so..

You choose the key your song is in. Fair enough

Play a melody using the scale derived from that "tonic" note. Got that bit.

but...

Where do the chords come in to it? Obviously if your playing more then one note at a time, you would use the chord for that particular key to determine which keys can be plyed in unison, but how do they apply to the melodic progression of the song?

Does the chord progression determine the scale of notes played? For example... if you progress from an A to a C, does the scale of the notes change from A to C or are you always restricted to using the scale from the key of the tonic note.


Please... no 'there is no spoon' answers either =)

scales and chords and harmonies are all interrelated.

a chord is basically 3 or more notes. a chord consisting of 2 notes is called an interval. an interval is the root note (tonic) + major 3rd note. a chord is the roote note + major 3rd + perfect 5th (+ successive additional notes in harmony for larger chords such as 7ths, 11ths, 13ths etc)

how does this relate to scales?

take a scale from root C (a Cmaj scale):

C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C

C is the root note
D is the 2nd note of the scale aka major 2nd
E is the 3rd note of the scale aka major 3rd
F is the 4th note aka perfect 4th
G is the 5th note aka perfect 5th
A = major 6th
B = major 7th
C = perfect octave

so in a typical Cmaj scale a C chord would be C, E, G

you can ascend and descend up and down a scale using chords that match the tonic of the root note of the scale. additionally you can play in harmony (5ths, 7ths, 9ths, 11ths, 13ths) and it wont sound messed up.

theres a better, fuller explanation here:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...t=&pagenumber=3

good explanation,but i am still wondering about what you said "using chords that match the tonic of the root note".i don't understand that.in c major scale we have CEG chord,and what other chords can i play? what are chords that match the tonic of the root note?

pleaase can any of you explain how chords are related to scale,and which chords are avaliable in C major scale.
Can you explain this:
"you can ascend and descend up and down a scale using chords that match the tonic of the root note of the scale."

thanx

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Originally posted by krivi pleaase can any of you explain how chords are related to scale,and which chords are avaliable in C major scale.

ANY chord using ANY three white keys, in C major (or the relative A minor), can be used.

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Originally posted by krivi pleaase can any of you explain how chords are related to scale,and which chords are avaliable in C major scale. Can you explain this: "you can ascend and descend up and down a scale using chords that match the tonic of the root note of the scale." thanx

I'll have a go, since I'm fairly new to chords too and maybe we can both understand each other in lamens terms.

As far as I can gather, you use the chords as a guide as to best step up or down a scale. You can obviously transition to notes that arnt in a chord otherwise you would be missing out on a lot of the notes in the scale, but I havnt been able to find any 'rules' or 'guidlines' on this exactly (I'm sure there out there though). You just seem to do it when it sounds right or you want to place emphasis on a certain part of the melody progression. It generally sounds appropriate to change the chord every 4 bars or 8 bars or so. So your 16 bar melody might start in the first C chord, repeat the same chord but with a different set of notes. Then go on to the 3rd chord in C and back to the first chord in C. Within those chords is where you construct the melody using the notes specified by the chord.

thanx guys u undestood,however i never used chords,i just choose a scale and try to layer notes as it best sounds,obviously i would come up with same result if using chords.

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