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Posted by Capitalizt on Mar-25-2005 09:57:

Long live the differences (Right vs Left)

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/dr..._86_114,00.html


Some people believe that all social problems have solutions; other people believe that some problems cannot be solved, only mitigated, and that public policy is a matter of trade-offs. People in the leftist camp tend to fall into the first category, those on the right, in the latter.

In the Political Junkie Handbook, Michael Crane offers a provocative listing of "100+ Differences Between the Left and Right." Here's a sampling with some embellishments and additions:

Left: Human rights are more important than property rights. Right: Property rights are the foundation of all rights.

Left: Karl Marx. Right: Adam Smith.

Left: Humanity. Right: Individuality.

Left: Quotas. Right: Merit.

Left: A fair and living wage. Right: Wages must be based on productivity.

Left: Protectionism. Right: Free trade.

Left: Wage and price controls. Right: Supply and demand.

Left: Regulate. Right: Deregulate.

Left: Coercion. Right: Volunteerism.

Left: Idealism. Right: Common sense.

Left: Counterculture/Atheism. Right: Judeo-Christian tradition.

Left: Feminize men/masculinize women. Right: Men and women are equals on opposite poles.

Left: Boys and girls are the same, except girls are better. Right: Respect the differences between the sexes.

Left: Herstory. Right: History.

Left: Nurture. Right: Nature.

Left: Mass transit. Right: Automobiles.

Left: Marijuana. Right: Cigars.

Left: Welfare. Right: Charity.

Left: Differently abled. Right: Handicapped.

Left: Visualize peace. Right: Peace through strength.

Left: Feelings. Right: Thoughts.

Left: Centralization and government planning. Right: Decentralization and free enterprise.

Left: Cooperation. Right: Competition.

Left: Alec Baldwin. Right: Charlton Heston.

Left: Alger Hiss. Right: Whittaker Chambers.

Left: John Maynard Keynes. Right: Frederich Hayek.

Left: John Kenneth Galbraith. Right: Milton Friedman.

Left: Jean Jacques Rousseau. Right: Edmund Burke.

Left: Gore Vidal. Right: William F. Buckley Jr.

Left: Michael Moore. Right: George W. Bush.

Left: 2+2 = whatever makes kids feel good. Right: 2+2 = 4.

Left: Public schools as laboratories for social engineering. Right: Basic and rigorous academics.

Left: Government school monopoly. Right: Choice and competition.

Left: Veggie soyburgers. Right: McDonald's.

Left: Granola. Right: Wheaties.

Left: Communes. Right: Gated communities.

Left: Mom & Pop's Organic Food Emporium. Right: Wal-Mart.

Left: Boulder. Right: Mayberry, RFD.

Left: Sandals. Right: Wingtips.

Left: Ward Churchill. Right: Bill Bennett.

Left: Hunter S. Thompson. Right: Thomas Wolfe.

Left: Demonstrators. Right: Cops.

Left: Pacifists. Right: Marines.

Left: Takers. Right: Doers.

Left: Tax receivers. Right: Taxpayers.

Left: There is too much inequality of wealth. Right: Free people not equal; equal people are not free.

Left: Redistribute wealth. Right: Create wealth.

Left: Equality of outcome. Right: Equality of opportunity.

Left: Security seeking. Right: Risk taking.

Left: Labor unions. Right: Right to work.

Left: A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. Right: Mankind is the pinnacle of creation.

Left: Environmental purity. Right: Environmental/commercial trade-offs.

Left: Windmills. Right: Nuclear power plants.

Left: Bicycles. Right: SUVs.

Left: Volvo. Right: Lexus.

Left: Self-esteem is an entitlement. Right: Self-esteem is earned.

Left: Al Franken. Right: Rush Limbaugh.

Left: Capital punishment is uncivilized. Right: Murder is uncivilized.

Left: World government. Right: U.S. constitution.

Left: Foreign aid. Right: Foreign investment.

Left: Open space. Right: Golf courses.

As Ayn Rand once observed, if your differences appear to be irreconcilable, the first thing you should do is check your premises.

Mike Rosen's radio show airs daily from 9 a.m. to noon on 850 KOA.


Posted by biznology on Mar-25-2005 10:16:

what?

id be labeled as a leftist loony, but then again, nothing youve posted makes any sense or proves much.

perhaps it makes for humorus commentary on some imagined community, but beyond that it just makes assumptions:


Left: John Maynard Keynes. Right: Frederich Hayek.

-never disparaged by cons hero Reagan.


fucking ell:

Left: Boulder. Right: Mayberry, RFD.


look the other way|


Posted by Shakka on Mar-25-2005 12:45:

haha. Some of those were funny, some I't tend to agree with and some were downright peculiar. I think we should make this thread sticky and debate one of these topics per day--just for the hell of it.


Posted by Lira on Mar-25-2005 19:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
haha. Some of those were funny, some I't tend to agree with and some were downright peculiar. I think we should make this thread sticky and debate one of these topics per day--just for the hell of it.

It should've come with a poll asking us to vote which sentences we agree with. I could do that, if someone actually finds it interesting (i.e. insert a poll in this thread).


Posted by zig on Mar-25-2005 20:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
It should've come with a poll asking us to vote which sentences we agree with. I could do that, if someone actually finds it interesting (i.e. insert a poll in this thread).


Excellent idea Lira and good post Capitalizt....yeh i like this idea...some of them are obvious,for me anyway....and some of them i would difficult...but it would be great to get an overview of everybodys ophinion.....and im sure there will be some surprises....that would generate good commentary and make it a really good thread.....im up for it anyway...if it isnt to much hassle for you Lira....see what others think....


Posted by Yoepus on Mar-25-2005 21:28:

i think it would be easier to just post a "thread of the day" with one of these sentances and a poll than for Lira to categorize them and what not.

Plus that would limit the debate on just that sentance for the day and avoid overspill of other days debates into new ones.


Posted by zig on Mar-25-2005 22:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
i think it would be easier to just post a "thread of the day" with one of these sentances and a poll than for Lira to categorize them and what not.

Plus that would limit the debate on just that sentance for the day and avoid overspill of other days debates into new ones.


that sounds to sensible...a good old debate anarchy style....

or you could just do the whole poll and pick out the best ones for individual threads.....i mean who wants to debate Volvo V Lexus...ive never owned either...mind you i wouldnt mind a Lexus


Posted by beno86 on Mar-25-2005 22:11:

ah it reminds me off a good joke

what the difference between a republicain and a democrat ??


about 200 000$ a year

um some of them made slight sense but political affiliations just cant be summed up that easily


Posted by Capitalizt on Mar-25-2005 22:13:

1 more

Right: Boy Scouts. Left: ??? (no equivalent)


Posted by zig on Mar-25-2005 22:25:

Re: 1 more

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt
Right: Boy Scouts. Left: ??? (no equivalent)


Right: Boy Scouts. Left: Boyz sellin crack and pimpin bitches in da hood


Posted by Pheobius on Mar-27-2005 21:18:

Re: Long live the differences (Right vs Left)

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt
Left: Idealism. Right: Common sense.


Funny, I always saw the Left as common sense and Right as Stubborn


Posted by Dupz on Mar-28-2005 12:23:

Interesting thread, however inaccurate it may be.. It seems to be only somewhat relevant to American politics. But even then, it comes across that democratic lefties are all communists (which, from what i know, is not true)
Plus, we stereotype rightists as religious gun-nuts...? (again, very relevant for Americans, but not so much the rest of the world)


Posted by Pheobius on Mar-28-2005 23:26:

It's never been the religious right that have caused the major problems, plus theres are large religious left, their just not as vocal


Posted by Lira on Mar-29-2005 03:12:

As far as I've understood, I can do what you said, but keep in mind I only understood half of it

So, what exactly should I do? I make the poll and a thread for each question?


Posted by Capitalizt on Mar-29-2005 08:37:

how's this one..

Left: America is corrupt and evil because of (pick a negative issue).
Right America is honorable and good despite (pick a negative issue).


Posted by zig on Mar-29-2005 12:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
As far as I've understood, I can do what you said, but keep in mind I only understood half of it

So, what exactly should I do? I make the poll and a thread for each question?


I would say,make the poll for all of the questions....just to find out how right or left wing most political TAs are....to get an overall view of us as a group.....

Making a thread for each question,seems a bit unnescessary...it would be a lot of threads.....i would say start with the poll and let it gather momentum from there,and then make individual threads based on the results of the most talked about topics.


Posted by Capitalizt on Mar-29-2005 23:50:

You forget polls are posts two. If you start this, you'll be hitting two birds with one stone. People can vote, then discuss in the messages beneath it.


Posted by Lira on Mar-30-2005 14:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt
You forget polls are posts two. If you start this, you'll be hitting two birds with one stone. People can vote, then discuss in the messages beneath it.

Aye, but will people choose whether the statement is right or wrong or if they'd stick with left or right? I meant to do the former, but people seem to have liked the latter.

God, I'm too slow these days



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