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Posted by Sirocco on Mar-26-2005 07:06:

the best cd decks?

well what ones are the best, sound most like vinyl when scratching, and best features? i see the ones with the big vinyls on them are out now...so what u guys think?


Posted by beats and beeps on Mar-26-2005 07:24:

Re: the best cd decks?

quote:
Originally posted by Sirocco
well what ones are the best, sound most like vinyl when scratching, and best features? i see the ones with the big vinyls on them are out now...so what u guys think?

the ones with "big vinyls" are best for scratching, but they only have 0.1 pitch resolution so...

The dns5000 is probably the best all arounder, for both scratching and mixing.

The cdj1000mk2 is still probably the best for mixing.


Posted by Nick Mimas on Mar-26-2005 09:52:

Pioneer CDJ-1000


Posted by djshtr on Mar-26-2005 17:34:

if you want something just for mixing, check out the Denon S1000

Its pretty cheap and has a lot of the toys built in.. scratch efx, filter efx, mp3 capability,.etc. not sure if its 0.1% though.. might wanna check on that, esp for long trance mixes..


Posted by Michael May on Mar-26-2005 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by djshtr
if you want something just for mixing, check out the Denon S1000

not sure if its 0.1% though.. might wanna check on that, esp for long trance mixes..



They are.


Posted by 241403066283 on Mar-27-2005 02:38:

How about the Technics SL DZ1200? are they any good?


Posted by j@y on Mar-27-2005 02:44:

my friend just bought 2 numark cdx and they are awsome

from +- 6 to 100

nice feeling with the deck

i think they are just perfect!


Posted by djkoolaide on Mar-27-2005 03:03:

quote:
Originally posted by 241403066283
How about the Technics SL DZ1200? are they any good?


no


Posted by Nick Mimas on Mar-27-2005 03:29:

quote:
Originally posted by djkoolaide
no


Why? Apart from the price tag which stings like a drive-by it looks ok to me.


Posted by mzvirbulis on Mar-27-2005 05:03:

yeah why not technics they look ok!
as anyone had experience on these cd decks, maybe not many people have them.


Posted by djkoolaide on Mar-27-2005 05:09:

i should have clarified myself -- from what i have heard, they suck for scratching

for mixing they are fine. still would say the CDJs are better, mainly because of the price. the DZ1200s are WAY overpriced.


Posted by Nick Mimas on Mar-27-2005 05:29:

quote:
Originally posted by djkoolaide
i should have clarified myself -- from what i have heard, they suck for scratching

for mixing they are fine. still would say the CDJs are better, mainly because of the price. the DZ1200s are WAY overpriced.


I got you, when it comes to CD's I'm Pioneer all the way brother.


Posted by Sirocco on Mar-27-2005 05:32:

what do u mean by 0.1%?


Posted by djkoolaide on Mar-27-2005 06:36:

The pitch change increments are set at 0.1%

So you can pitch by, lets say +0.8%, and the next step is +0.9%.

And that is not precise enough for long transitions (which you have when you mix Trance).


Posted by webbie on Mar-27-2005 12:57:

quote:
Originally posted by 241403066283
How about the Technics SL DZ1200? are they any good?


No, they arent. The sure do look awesome but the pitch slider is very very loose making it hard to get a really precise mix.
The scratch sound it makes is very electronic and fake too, there are some vids floating around that demonstrates this.

But they sure look great...


Posted by Nemesis44 on Mar-27-2005 13:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Nick Mimas
Why? Apart from the price tag which stings like a drive-by it looks ok to me.


They aren't all that to be honest. I have played on them and the whilst I don't think they are a bad deck I think it's just too little too late from technics. Pioneer cornered that market I'm afraid. Denon come a close second but I prefer the Pioneers by a mile.

Someone mentioned the Numark thing being able to pitch 6 to 100 percent. Quite a normal feature these days.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by Piett on Mar-28-2005 22:46:

I think this sais it all:


Technics in troble


Posted by Armada_hk on Mar-29-2005 02:13:

Ive tried the technics decks and they are awful. for starters it takes about 30 seconds for it to read the cd you put into it. The platter although it looks good doesnt feel good. The effects on the decks are quite limited and the display pannel was kinda small. Im personally buying the Pioneer Mk2's as i think overall they are the best


Posted by Michael May on Mar-29-2005 02:20:

Pioneer or Denon. The only way to go with cd decks.


Posted by Axolotyl on Mar-29-2005 04:39:

If your planning on playing in a club at some point, I'd say go the Pioneer. Every club I've been into has either CDJ 800's or 1000's. They seem to be the standard much in the way technics is for TT.

Personally, I have two Dennon s5000's though and they rock! They have a lot of features, some which you might not us though, so think about what kind of mixing you want to do.

If its straight track to track mixing, then go the Pioneer. If your buying them for bedroom fun and really want to experiment with scratching, sampling and looping, I could certainly recommend the Dennon over the Pioneer.


Posted by WeasiL on Mar-29-2005 20:01:

I'm still surprised to see how many people dont like the Tech's, I guess its really how its being used. I agree with the comment it sucks for scratching, this is a fact. I also agree that the platter has a really loose feel to it, but I managed to adjust this. And the problem with the pitch slider being too loose only seemed to be an issue on the first few shipments as the one's I recently used dont have this problem. Also as far as the cd startup time I think this may be an issue with the media being used. I recently bought a 1200 to go along with my cdj1000mk2 and the startup time is the same.

Overall for what I use it for I dont mind the 1200 at all but I still prefer the cdj1000. You cant go wrong with the Pioneer.


Posted by webbie on Mar-29-2005 20:13:

One thing i dont like about the Denon DN-S5000 is that the platter is sensitive to touch even when you have set it to not spin.
I want it to be just as vinyl when the platter is spinning but when i set it to be static it should not respond to pressure.


Posted by Michael May on Mar-29-2005 23:03:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by WeasiL
I'm still surprised to see how many people dont like the Tech's, I guess its really how its being used. I agree with the comment it sucks for scratching, this is a fact. I also agree that the platter has a really loose feel to it, but I managed to adjust this. And the problem with the pitch slider being too loose only seemed to be an issue on the first few shipments as the one's I recently used dont have this problem. Also as far as the cd startup time I think this may be an issue with the media being used. I recently bought a 1200 to go along with my cdj1000mk2 and the startup time is the same.


I think you may have summed it up, man. Way too many problems.


Posted by WeasiL on Mar-29-2005 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike123

I think you may have summed it up, man. Way too many problems.


If i scratched then I wouldnt even consider it but for mixing its fine.


Posted by djshan on Mar-30-2005 02:07:

pioneer cdj 800



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