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Posted by Zenchowdah on Mar-27-2005 18:57:

Audio Engineer

Im looking to go to school to become an audio engineer, does anyone have any schools that they know of that do this well?


Posted by trancintaiwan on Mar-27-2005 19:35:

i'm at nyu rite now. its a pretty good program.

i believe the top two in u.s. are nyu and miami.


Posted by mr_fisken on Mar-27-2005 20:56:

www.sae.edu


Posted by Zenchowdah on Mar-27-2005 21:49:

quote:
Originally posted by mr_fisken
www.sae.edu


quote:
Music Theory is coupled with essential exposure to DJ�ing.


does that mean going to the club is part of the curriculum?

edit $14.800 tuition, that aint bad..


Posted by LeiWM06 on Mar-27-2005 23:35:

???

Music theory is more about notes and beats on paper and that kinds of thing...


Posted by Zenchowdah on Mar-27-2005 23:42:

quote:
Originally posted by LeiWM06
???

Music theory is more about notes and beats on paper and that kinds of thing...


i was referring to the

essential exposure to djing

what better place to be exposed to djing

than in the club?


Posted by LeiWM06 on Mar-27-2005 23:47:

Humm, actually standing behind another DJ while they're mixing is better IMO...


Posted by mzvirbulis on Mar-28-2005 00:37:

yeah im going to SAE in a few years time.


Posted by trancintaiwan on Mar-28-2005 00:43:

ok... you guys need to realize something.

DJing and Producing music essentially has very little to do with audio engineering. Producing maybe a slight part, but djing isn't even something audio engineers learn or think about..

audio engineering or music technology major is all about studio work. recording, mastering, live recording, mixdowns, learning about electronics, learning about studio equipment, learning how to design equipment or software, etc. etc.

you have to make it clear. do you want to learn how to dj? or do you want to learn to be an audio engineer...


Posted by Zenchowdah on Mar-28-2005 02:55:

quote:
Originally posted by trancinchink
ok... you guys need to realize something.

DJing and Producing music essentially has very little to do with audio engineering. Producing maybe a slight part, but djing isn't even something audio engineers learn or think about..

audio engineering or music technology major is all about studio work. recording, mastering, live recording, mixdowns, learning about electronics, learning about studio equipment, learning how to design equipment or software, etc. etc.

you have to make it clear. do you want to learn how to dj? or do you want to learn to be an audio engineer...


actually, i want to be an audio engineer.


Posted by wrzonance on Mar-28-2005 03:15:

quote:
Originally posted by trancinchink
ok... you guys need to realize something.

DJing and Producing music essentially has very little to do with audio engineering. Producing maybe a slight part, but djing isn't even something audio engineers learn or think about..

audio engineering or music technology major is all about studio work. recording, mastering, live recording, mixdowns, learning about electronics, learning about studio equipment, learning how to design equipment or software, etc. etc.

you have to make it clear. do you want to learn how to dj? or do you want to learn to be an audio engineer...


i was gonnna comment BIG TIME on this, lol. but you said it. +1

remember... dj-ing producing should be a part of you're life, and certainly an audio engineering course is gunna help

but the paths aren't identical, and vary rarely come together

I'm in AIS because I know I love audio and I want a career based on it. I'll keep mixing and producing on the side, but at least I'll love my job as well.

I know I probably won't ever be a money-making producer or DJ but at least I can get a job engineering audio, I do have a good ear for sound.

LA LA LA I am tweaking right now... SOOO back to the turntables

shout out to NOU *cartman* "WEST SIE EEEED"


Posted by wrzonance on Mar-28-2005 03:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Zenchowdah
actually, i want to be an audio engineer.


that's cool man, but some people get the wrong idea

i've seen kids drop the program BECAUSE they had the wrong idea. however most of the instructors have beaten it into our head's by now that this is not the "Producer School" it's engineering.


Posted by mzvirbulis on Mar-28-2005 04:53:

quote:
Originally posted by trancinchink
ok... you guys need to realize something.

DJing and Producing music essentially has very little to do with audio engineering. Producing maybe a slight part, but djing isn't even something audio engineers learn or think about..

audio engineering or music technology major is all about studio work. recording, mastering, live recording, mixdowns, learning about electronics, learning about studio equipment, learning how to design equipment or software, etc. etc.

you have to make it clear. do you want to learn how to dj? or do you want to learn to be an audio engineer...

you have no fucking idea what goes on in peoples heads and you do not understand a persons meaning of what they want to do in life. my suggestion is you made a valid point!
I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT AN AUDIO ENGINEER IS, I WANT TO BE ONE TOO BECAUSE I HAVE A PASSION FOR SOUND. NOT JUST DJING AND PRODUCING

CHEERS


Posted by mzvirbulis on Mar-28-2005 04:56:

Although i know what you mean by people getting the wrong idea, I THINK PEOPLE WHO DO THAT ARE TRY HARDS , because they dont analyse what the hell it encompasses. if you have a passion for something you will then be able to know what exactly what it is in depth.


Posted by wrzonance on Mar-28-2005 04:58:

quote:
Originally posted by mzvirbulis
you have no fucking idea what goes on in peoples heads and you do not understand a persons meaning of what they want to do in life. my suggestion is shut up!!!!
I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT AN AUDIO ENGINEER IS, I WANT TO BE ONE TOO BECAUSE I HAVE A PASSION FOR SOUND. NOT JUST DJING AND PRODUCING

CHEERS


wtf crawled in you're vagina? i don't think he meant to offend, lol?


Posted by mzvirbulis on Mar-28-2005 05:00:

honestly i have seen alot of FAGS at the SAE COLLEGE OPEN DAYS and boy they have know idea. FUCK COMMERCIAL PEOPLE, they advertise to people virtually off the street from radio.
it pisses me off. now the whole of australia is going to become fucking audio engineer.


Posted by mzvirbulis on Mar-28-2005 05:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
Have you ever heard of asking for guidance young one?

wtf?


Posted by wrzonance on Mar-28-2005 05:06:

quote:
Originally posted by mzvirbulis
honestly i have seen alot of FAGS at the SAE COLLEGE OPEN DAYS and boy they have know idea. FUCK COMMERCIAL PEOPLE, they advertise to people virtually off the street from radio.
it pisses me off. now the whole of australia is going to become fucking audio engineer.


i agree that. in some cases. i fear that going to a school to become an "audio engineer" is just a fantasy rich kids would like to live out since their parents can pay for their schooling

i am paying with loans and grants, and I am happy to say that I truely want to do this, and I get excited when I see people drop the program because they are weaker than me.

but man seriously, watch out for vaginitis, it'll get you.


Posted by mzvirbulis on Mar-28-2005 05:10:

go for it mate!


Posted by Derivative on Mar-28-2005 05:11:

quote:
audio engineering or music technology major is all about studio work. recording, mastering, live recording, mixdowns, learning about electronics, learning about studio equipment, learning how to design equipment or software, etc. etc.


sadly thats more interesting that what you actually learn on most audio engineering courses. you will probably have units that touch on these. but you will also be doing alot of maths. alot of work with sound penetration through various materials. resonance. building analogue filter circuits. electronics.

overall its a bit of a mindphuck. read the prospectus for the course in question to get a better idea of it. most will detail approximately what goes on. in most cases audio engineering courses are very 'engineering' related - they involve alot of exams. alot of maths. alot of graphs. alot of phucking around with electronics.

it sounds as if you want to do sound design courses. in which cases not many universities do specific courses in this department. you may want to the technical college route. although that said, studio recording does require a certain degree of acoustical engineering knowledge and they will probably teach it to you at some point. fun fun. building basic analogue synthesizers out of electronic components, sound designing and mastering will also sap your will to live if you dont reeeeeeeally wanna do it.


Posted by mzvirbulis on Mar-28-2005 05:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
I think you need to get your panties out of a bunch and just cool off, he asked for schools, people gave him schools, someone talked about DJ'n and music theory, and then someone warned the people in this thread that audio engineering is not music theory or related to the actual production of the music, but rather the recording, editing, mixing, and mastering of music.

Everything was constructive up to your first post. You should really stand back and just think before going and making posts filled with expletives and capitalized words.

actually i did say SAE at the start then everyone else went off course. i think you should mind your own business and stop being so technical.


Posted by mzvirbulis on Mar-28-2005 05:13:

PEACE NOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


Posted by wrzonance on Mar-28-2005 05:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Derivative
overall its a bit of a mindphuck. read the prospectus for the course in question to get a better idea of it. most will detail approximately what goes on. in most cases audio engineering courses are very 'engineering' related - they involve alot of exams. alot of maths. alot of graphs. alot of phucking around with electronics.


hmm.... maybe my school is just awesome-o then. because MATH is just a GE class everyone takes at AIS. And my school is very involved with studio equip, set up, sound etc. As well as digital audio editing. Yes of course it is Audio Engineering, but what sort of program are YOU talking of, what school?


Posted by Exodus17 on Mar-28-2005 05:15:

hah

really caught my eye that somone else posted on this.. im graduating high school here in may and this was my conclusion as well as far as what i wanna do with my life...

im doing a paper in english over plans after high school and i seriously contemplated dentistry and other high paying careers and i quickly realised how little im motivated to devote the next few years of my life to become something im not REALLY all that interested in.. i really wanted to do something involving music and technology since im so addicted to the two...

yea its true it might not pay all that well but id personaly take working with music for cheap an y day over scraping green and brown gunk off peoples teeth ....anyways[/ramble]

this interview on about.com really helped me out with my paper and told me what i needed to know http://musicians.about.com/library/...blengineer1.htm

been thinking about possibly going to college to major in recording arts but it's said everywhere that you dont really need a college degree for the profession...

being a dj has no direct relationship to the career other than the fact that in both you work with music on a mixer

djing might however be something you can mention to a studio when interviewing or interning or whatever, they want people with a passion for music more than someone who just knows the gear according to what ive dug up and djing is definetly something to mention...
i recieved info about a local studio not too long ago and i noticed that in their personell page it showed that one of the recruiters "surrounds himself with music when not at work by mixing dance reccords at home..." hope to speak to the guy aws soon as i get my HS diploma(required with application)

alot of schools also offer courses in production and how to work the tools...

mainly, being an audio/recording engineer means you will be most likely working with bands or artists to record their music and do all the spiffing and fine tuning to make the songs ready to be put on CD for the masses...you might also be working for like a theater or some other live perfomance event like a "disney on ice" kinda thing and be working the mixer that controls all the sound stuff like mic levels for each of the actors and the levels for the background music and all that stuff... essentially everything that deals with sound...

other places these guys are found are at concerts... big rock bands dont just sing and play thru their stage amps... theres always an engineer who controls the levels for the mics for the singers and on the drumsets and all that stuff...


Posted by mzvirbulis on Mar-28-2005 05:16:

Probly the science of acoustics?


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