Sadness, anger... a turmoil of confused emotions carried by anxiety. The emotive feeling from trance and the violence from jungle with a psychedelic twist.

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Maybe you should put it so people can stream it?

Try www.ic-musicmedia.com

The song

I like the quick breaks - and the furious pads are nice too. Melody is dark and really deep - i love your bassline....although the volume of the percs mayube needs to be up a bit.
Very cool track, something different.

listening now dude, my first impression is that it would make a decent hard house tune
in fact the synths and melody sound a lot like some Tony De Vit stuff.
really liking the melodies as well, you've definately got the creativity side of producing well under control, it's just the mastering again thats the problem
but if I was to hear this in a club, I'd rave my fucking tits off, so good job

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Originally posted by RickyM although the volume of the percs maybe needs to be up a bit. Very cool track, something different.

Thank you.

Yeah, I reckon I've got to work on that really, but I often find myself on the horns of a dilemma - whenever I up the drum, the synths seem to disappear, and vice-versa. But I guess I'm close to solving this problem.

And i've registered to that service already, I believe I will receive the confirmation tomorrow

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Originally posted by Az listening now dude, my first impression is that it would make a decent hard house tune in fact the synths and melody sound a lot like some Tony De Vit stuff. really liking the melodies as well, you've definately got the creativity side of producing well under control, it's just the mastering again thats the problem but if I was to hear this in a club, I'd rave my fucking tits off, so good job

Cheers, mate

wow, crazy stuff. i like it.

i'm not sure if this is supposed to have an audible kick/bassdrum or not, but if it does.. where is it? turn up the volume on that! the bassline is mint but the kick+bass pair must be tweaked so we could feel it..

other than that, awesome! very creative

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Originally posted by Lira Thank you. Yeah, I reckon I've got to work on that really, but I often find myself on the horns of a dilemma - whenever I up the drum, the synths seem to disappear, and vice-versa.

Yes I get that a lot - and it is fucking annoying.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 wow, crazy stuff. i like it. i'm not sure if this is supposed to have an audible kick/bassdrum or not, but if it does.. where is it? turn up the volume on that! the bassline is mint but the kick+bass pair must be tweaked so we could feel it.. other than that, awesome! very creative

Indeed, I'm re-building the tune in the next couple of weeks and work on the drums a bit more. I've got to find a way to let the bass, the drums and the synths co-exist in harmony :/

Obrigado

Interesting song, but how we dance listening to it? Just joking...

Try to put some compression on bass, because it's hard do distinguish the basses notes...

Cheers!

Hi Marcus

I like your stepperc, fihrst arp is to loud, i like your groove bass, hmmm....
I feel the monotony, Try to make in your song groove gap.

Good Luck!!

Greetzzzz

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Originally posted by luizmenezesjr Interesting song, but how we dance listening to it? Just joking... Try to put some compression on bass, because it's hard do distinguish the basses notes... Cheers!

I don't quite understand what you mean - the bass is just a continuous flow (i.e. once the first note is released, it just glides to other notes). So you shouldn't hear the "bass notes" other than the changes done by portamento... or I didn't get what you mean?

Valeu por tudo

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Originally posted by Sunclyder Hi Marcus I like your stepperc, fihrst arp is to loud, i like your groove bass, hmmm.... I feel the monotony, Try to make in your song groove gap. Good Luck!! Greetzzzz

Yeah, the first arpeggio does seem to be loud in some sound systems, I'm gonna work on that as well. Cheers

If you want to glide the bass notes then it's OK!

Hey dude,

This track is really friggin' tight! I'd definitely say this is a good mix between hard trance and DnB. I wouldn't quite call it "trance" though just because it doesn't have that uplifting emotional bit, and there's no euphoric breakdown (or breakdown at all, it seems), but it does have tons of energy with some good musicality to it

Everyone already mentioned mastering, but... What I'd do is turn down the high synths to give more room for the low end. The mid is definitely lacking (1 KHz range) so you might want to work on some EQ. Usually dropping the highs and bass is better than boosting the mids. Might want to pass through a tube warmer or HQ multi-band compressor to help bring out that bass end again. Just be sure to watch a spectrum analyzer while it plays to make sure you're not overpowering any particular band.

Musically -- dude, this rocks =) Hope to see an update soon!

ohman man this shit rocks!!!!

marcus, is there anywhere i can find a tutorial on the rythm and patterns of trancestep or dnb or whatever..im completely dumbfounded on how they are sequenced!

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Originally posted by DJVirgen Hey dude, This track is really friggin' tight! I'd definitely say this is a good mix between hard trance and DnB. I wouldn't quite call it "trance" though just because it doesn't have that uplifting emotional bit, and there's no euphoric breakdown (or breakdown at all, it seems), but it does have tons of energy with some good musicality to it Everyone already mentioned mastering, but... What I'd do is turn down the high synths to give more room for the low end. The mid is definitely lacking (1 KHz range) so you might want to work on some EQ. Usually dropping the highs and bass is better than boosting the mids. Might want to pass through a tube warmer or HQ multi-band compressor to help bring out that bass end again. Just be sure to watch a spectrum analyzer while it plays to make sure you're not overpowering any particular band. Musically -- dude, this rocks =) Hope to see an update soon!

Thanks for the tips, I'm gonna try that And I was talking about the most banging sub-genres of trance other than epic, reason why I had mentioned the genre

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Originally posted by Sirocco marcus, is there anywhere i can find a tutorial on the rythm and patterns of trancestep or dnb or whatever..im completely dumbfounded on how they are sequenced!

hhmm... other than the results from google, I wouldn't know what to recommend, although it's quite simple really.

The basic differences from trance are the tempo (while trance is usually produced in the 130-150 bpm range) drum'n'bass is mostly found within the 160-180 bpm range. As for the drum patterns, I've used drum loops exclusively (which you can easily download looking for amen breaks and whatnot) and, if you want to use a drum machine, imitating would be a nice start (the most basic beat, dividing a bar by 16 would be snare at 5 and 13 and kick at 1 and 11). If there's anything else you want to know, let me know

I'm glad you liked it.

beats. awesome percs.

freaky shit. hehe.

0.40 wow. insane.

1.07 nice bass. It would be nice to have a thumpeb bass drum bangen away in the background though. I reckon it would help carry the tune. The drum & bass is very funky though; i likes it!

great tune Lira. Your a pretty damn talenty producer.

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Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_ 0.40 wow. insane. 1.07 nice bass. It would be nice to have a thumpeb bass drum bangen away in the background though. I reckon it would help carry the tune. The drum & bass is very funky though; i likes it! great tune Lira. Your a pretty damn talenty producer.

Cheers, mate

Yeah, I believe the bass drum is really the problem here I'm going to see what I can do

sorry maaz

i don't really like dnb or trancestep
not really digging ur song



pork

It's all good, Chris I kinda remember the sort of music you like (at least what you told me once on MSN) so if I produce something of that sort (which is in my plans), I'll let you know

Mad thing man

more some adjust on track i think it would work better. keep the creativity alive Lira!

vai fundo velho!

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Originally posted by Lira the sort of music you like

cheese and uplifting
(closet prog whore..eep!)

very original

agree about the kick - it doesn't have to be a bassy kick, as you'll find with a lot of drum n bass the kick often has a lot of top end on it and just lets the bassline handle the bottom end, which would probably help with your problem of your synths fighting with your kick

the synths are excellent as are the ideas, but the whole track sounds a bit unclear - sounds to me as though it may be compressed too heavily?

would be interested to hear your work in other genres

Hey Maaz...

On the technical side, you need to give your mix some more headroom and let up on the compressor a bit. Just give all of the elements a little more room to breathe and the mixdown should sound better. I find when I work with non-percussive based music, I oftentimes turn down the individual outputs, as I don't want any one element to really stand out. The final result is much easier to work with in mixdown than something where everything is fighting for whatever room it can get.

On the musical side, it sounds similar to what I make, in terms of overall structure. I'm going to guess you get bored easily and keep adding elements to the track. The lead synths have a mortal kombatish feel, but I'm not quite sure why. Bassline is rocking, could benefit greatly from some sidechain compression (doh, getting technical again). Really some propa hard and fast DnB.

Ahh I know why it reminds me of MK - other forms of trance 'n bass have leads that play longer notes, and therefore seem much slower, whereas the notes here furiously keep up with the overall tempo.

I like "Ayako" better

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Originally posted by MK2 Mad thing man more some adjust on track i think it would work better. keep the creativity alive Lira! vai fundo velho!

Haha, valeu velho (cheers mate)

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Originally posted by Stu Cox very original agree about the kick - it doesn't have to be a bassy kick, as you'll find with a lot of drum n bass the kick often has a lot of top end on it and just lets the bassline handle the bottom end, which would probably help with your problem of your synths fighting with your kick the synths are excellent as are the ideas, but the whole track sounds a bit unclear - sounds to me as though it may be compressed too heavily? would be interested to hear your work in other genres

It seems the problem also lies in the drum loops I've used (which have this bassy kick), so I'm now adding an extra drum layer with a drier kick drum. The compression also turned out to be another problem, and that's something else I'm working on (I still have to study a lot about mastering and compressing in general). Thank you for the tips

As for working in other genres, I'm looking forward to showing some material in a couple of months. I'm just trying to figure out in what different ways I can use multiple tempos with ordinary software

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Originally posted by Tranc3 Hey Maaz... On the technical side, you need to give your mix some more headroom and let up on the compressor a bit. Just give all of the elements a little more room to breathe and the mixdown should sound better. I find when I work with non-percussive based music, I oftentimes turn down the individual outputs, as I don't want any one element to really stand out. The final result is much easier to work with in mixdown than something where everything is fighting for whatever room it can get.

hmm... good points here, thank you

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Originally posted by Tranc3 On the musical side, it sounds similar to what I make, in terms of overall structure. I'm going to guess you get bored easily and keep adding elements to the track. The lead synths have a mortal kombatish feel, but I'm not quite sure why. Bassline is rocking, could benefit greatly from some sidechain compression (doh, getting technical again). Really some propa hard and fast DnB.

I was adding elements because I always thought the tune was a bit "empty" so when I realised it had got where I wanted (i.e. the tune was full without having dissonant melodies) I then stopped and tried to work on the mastering. Then, in the middle of it I had the major software breakdown I mentioned in the 1st post. Before proceeding though, I wanted to know what people would think of it

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Originally posted by Tranc3 Ahh I know why it reminds me of MK - other forms of trance 'n bass have leads that play longer notes, and therefore seem much slower, whereas the notes here furiously keep up with the overall tempo.

That's exactly the feeling I wanted to give.

I want people to listen to this tune and get in touch with their innner destructive selves, rush immediately toward the highest skycraper around with energy sparking out of their body yelling war chants, run up its walls till they get to the rooftop, find their archnemesis waiting for them in that very same building so both of them could jump 50 meters high and then kick one another blazing fireballs with all their power while a heat-seeking camera follows the best angles of this gravity independent ode to destruction.

Either that or having people hop around their rooms fisting the air. Then I would know my mission on Earth is complete.

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Originally posted by Tranc3 I like "Ayako" better

I'm working on this tune as well, it's just a matter of time really

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Originally posted by Porky cheese and uplifting (closet prog whore..eep!)

Hehe, I'm pm'ing you when I finish the epic ones

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