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any of you ever see this one? craziest movie ever

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317248/

Good movie. After watching it in Portugese with subtitles you can pick up on a good number of vulgarities

Yeah, I think it's a really great movie.

Makes you see the very human side of people you would normally consider scum.

It's also presented in a very interesting way - almost like a book being read out to you in chapters.

I still have a hard time bearing with that "one" scene...those who have seen it know what I'm talking about. "Hand or foot?"

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Yeah, I think it's a really great movie. Makes you see the very human side of people you would normally consider scum. It's also presented in a very interesting way - almost like a book being read out to you in chapters. I still have a hard time bearing with that "one" scene...those who have seen it know what I'm talking about. "Hand or foot?"

man i loved that movie, one of the best i've seen

yea that one scene was pretty disturbing

i've been hearing really good things about this movie

i gotta check it out

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Originally posted by Geoff man i loved that movie, one of the best i've seen yea that one scene was pretty disturbing

Yeah I couldnt imagine going through that kind of ordeal at such a young age, but that was the way things were. Anyways, I loved this movie, one of the best Ive seen in revent years

No, no one of us have ever seen this bloody film and I've never ranted about the fucking cunts behind it before. In fact, there aren't 61 threads that mention this fucking film, let alone have this thread and this other thread been exclusively dedicated to this worthless comercial piece of pretentious turd. Bloody wankers who exploit others' misery.

Hell, if there's something that does manage to perfectly get on my fucking tits, that would be this fucking film. Please, next time, use the fucking search engine.



And no, I didn't say fucking fucking enough times!

its an awesome movie. one of my favorite things about it is the music

Wow, struck a nerve, Lira?

It's funny how when other people talk about your country, who don't even live there, seem to think that they know everything about it because they've trusted in what others have told them. Understanding is flawed.

The movie is a joke compared to Bus 174

You know, I have a hard time trying to understand what can someone even dare to say it is a good film. The director turned one of the saddest realities of Brazilian poverty and into a banal pop-corn film. He made a lot of profit from the film and, during these three years, the greedy cunt never engaged on any sort of solution to help. Meanwhile, the outskirts of Rio de Janeiro are becoming the hell on earth, and the news are hardly shocking anymore. We've seen it all on the telly. It's become a parallel reality, ordinary, and we then need something stronger to shock us. What for?

First of all, the problem is not new. The slams of Rio de Janeiro have been around for quite a while. Poverty is nothing new, neither in Brazil nor in developed countries. Yet the "exotic sight" of a slam from Rio de Janeiro makes it all far from us (except you do live in Rio). Rio is a charming place, after all, everything a gringo wants to see. Beaches, carnival and the poverty we like to export so we can show we're just the remains of a ruined colony. While the first Americans were looking for a new place to live, the Portuguese just wanted to get whatever they could find here and return to Europe. Then there was the slavery and, as soon as England realised they needed more consumers, they fought for freedom (as if), and there we were - millions of former slaves, in a place where people could hardly live on their own. Obviously, it's not that simple, but this is the main colour of the portrait. The film never ever mentions whatever happened before the XX century. The slam was "just there", as the government wanted to "clean" Rio de Janeiro.

Then it just shows all that cruelty as if it were something that we had never heard of. Instead, it just makes "art" out of the most depressing acts human beings can engage on, and thus having us being used to that. Pot-heads will still smoke their bloody ganja, deluding themselves, as if those behind the sales aren't the ones who might kidnap their beloved ones. The film isn't there to change anything. It's not a warning. It's just an attempt of making poverty look as magical as Mickey Mouse. And guess what: it is not.

What really saddens me though is that this is all my country exports. Countless foreigners came here and said "WTF!? Where are the slams and the jungle?". If it weren't so late, I'd keep talking, but any word would be just pointless, pretty much like the film. But, unlike that horror show, this is not freaky. This is an average person just ranting so tomorrow I can wake up and try to do something other than shocking people.

If someone can convince me of the contrary, I'm willing to read.

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Originally posted by Subey The movie is a joke compared to Bus 174

What the fuck!? What we saw on TV wasn't enough? They had to make money out of this too.

Fucking greedy cunts.

easy peasy..

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Originally posted by Lira You know, I have a hard time trying to understand what can someone even dare to say it is a good film. The director turned one of the saddest realities of Brazilian poverty and into a banal pop-corn film. He made a lot of profit from the film and, during these three years, the greedy cunt never engaged on any sort of solution to help. Meanwhile, the outskirts of Rio de Janeiro are becoming the hell on earth, and the news are hardly shocking anymore. We've seen it all on the telly. It's become a parallel reality, ordinary, and we then need something stronger to shock us. What for? First of all, the problem is not new. The slams of Rio de Janeiro have been around for quite a while. Poverty is nothing new, neither in Brazil nor in developed countries. Yet the "exotic sight" of a slam from Rio de Janeiro makes it all far from us (except you do live in Rio). Rio is a charming place, after all, everything a gringo wants to see. Beaches, carnival and the poverty we like to export so we can show we're just the remains of a ruined colony. While the first Americans were looking for a new place to live, the Portuguese just wanted to get whatever they could find here and return to Europe. Then there was the slavery and, as soon as England realised they needed more consumers, they fought for freedom (as if), and there we were - millions of former slaves, in a place where people could hardly live on their own. Obviously, it's not that simple, but this is the main colour of the portrait. The film never ever mentions whatever happened before the XX century. The slam was "just there", as the government wanted to "clean" Rio de Janeiro. Then it just shows all that cruelty as if it were something that we had never heard of. Instead, it just makes "art" out of the most depressing acts human beings can engage on, and thus having us being used to that. Pot-heads will still smoke their bloody ganja, deluding themselves, as if those behind the sales aren't the ones who might kidnap their beloved ones. The film isn't there to change anything. It's not a warning. It's just an attempt of making poverty look as magical as Mickey Mouse. And guess what: it is not. What really saddens me though is that this is all my country exports. Countless foreigners came here and said "WTF!? Where are the slams and the jungle?". If it weren't so late, I'd keep talking, but any word would be just pointless, pretty much like the film. But, unlike that horror show, this is not freaky. This is an average person just ranting so tomorrow I can wake up and try to do something other than shocking people. If someone can convince me of the contrary, I'm willing to read.

Glad to see some intelligence in COR sometimes.
Not sure where you live right now, but I can understand where you're coming from. While I thought it was an awesome movie, sometimes I(and everyone) forget that these things are still going on right now. It's a tragedy that the writer never went back to help them out, or started some sort of fund. But this world is pretty shitty in some places. If there were enough money, people, and resources to help out every shitty scenario I see on a film based on a true story then the world would be a better place for it. But there isn't. It sucks that it seems to some that they're glorifying the situation by making a film about it and in the process also money off it, but thats how the world works.

great movie.

recommend it highly.

I saw the second half of the most last night on stars (i think), its was pretty good. Very good acting for the most part from a bunch of no names.

P.S. Prolly the worst acting job in an Independent to Theatrical Release film was done in the movie SAW. Those actors sucked so much i left the theatre, grabbed some nachos, and played tekken 4 in the arcade.

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Originally posted by Lira Instead, it just makes "art" out of the most depressing acts human beings can engage on, and thus having us being used to that.

marcus,,... i thought the movie was based on a true story (the photographers) ?

great movie i thought.

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Originally posted by Porky marcus,,... i thought the movie was based on a true story (the photographer's) ? sometimes the most depraved and violent of acts reveal our true nature... great movie i thought.

It was all right. I didn't think of it as art but more of just shock value.

Its akin to war profiteering.

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Originally posted by Nou damn, I never seen Lira mad before... least that mad...

And I'm still not convinced that Lira is angry at the movie, itself, so much as he is fearful of what outsiders view his country as. I actually found it quite interesting to see such horror and violence and poverty presented in such a sarcastically light-hearted (if that does it any jsutice) manner - not because I think that "everything's supposed to be fun in Rio", but because it exposes this twisted human edge so well that, in their world of violence and extreme poverty, the blending of such violatile elements had become a sort of madness to be brought to reality with - that people had become compliant with this way of life, as people must do, and that embracing it drowns out the sadness sometimes and makes you forget how illogical it is.

I could be very wrong, I don't know. And I really don't mean to devalue the lives of people who have to face the reality of this sort of thing.

In any case, I'm going to Daytona for a few days. Goodbye.

"He's going to kill everybody". These are screenshots from the film, which we, sincerely, had already seen being broadcast live. If we needed to see what the situation was, we had already seen it once so why show it again in such empty context?

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Originally posted by Subey What version of earth do you live in where documentaries make money? Other than a couple of movies by Michael Moore documentaries by definition make no money

I admit I'm quite skeptical to the thought that they didn't get anything out of this film, being distributed by HBO Cinemax and all that. You like it or not, even if the film didn't profit as much as I'd like to believe it didn't, the director and the producer managed to get a place in the spotlight. An average Brazilian had already seen it (even if it was difficult for us to believe), we already know he was a survivor of the Candelaria massacre and we had heard the rumours that the police killed the hijacker on his way to the hospital. We don't need to be simply reminded ad nauseum so it becomes natural to us.

Do you see the picture at the top? The hijacker has a darker skin, which shows his African ancestry (in opposition to the woman he's holding, whose European origin is more evident). Yes, we're dealing with the remaining problems of freedom. I'm not sure how the America dealt with it (even because we're two large nations with completely different backgrounds), but it's blatantly obvious that Rio de Janeiro did a good job segregating those who had been brought to Brazil against their will and were freed even though they couldn't make it for a living. The director also claims that he interviewed one of the hijacker's friend, who was a drug dealer. Once again, upper class trash seems to deny this reality as they can afford to have fancy security systems, and use all the drugs they want that directly sponsor this sort of thing.

Now, those who could make a change (e.g. something as little as organising campaigns), are just shooting films. "City of God" became a blockbuster. "Bus 174" seems to have become a superfluous documentary. Even if they needed this to have the attention, is it too damn hard to stop glazing at their own belly and do something for a change? They can have the attention of far more people than I, for instance, could.

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Originally posted by Porky marcus,,... i thought the movie was based on a true story (the photographers) ?

It is, and there was already a book about it, written by the photographer himself, as far as I remember. And the film does nothing other than turning a sad history, like I said, in a oscar nominee to entertain people here and abroad. In fact, this is something else that worries me.

I don't know how many of you have been here. I'm not going to be as arrogant to say you can't understand if you don't live in Brazil, but I fail to understand what good that film can do. If I were a foreigner, I'd have the image that Brazil is a savage place, full of criminals everywhere and with slams in pretty much every inhabitated square meter. That's all we show anyway (other than our beaches and the carnival from Rio). The film shows everything in a ludic way that makes that story, which is based on true facts, become almost as fantastic as fiction. Has the thought of "not using drugs" (at least those that come from here or other developing countries) crossed the mind of someone watching the video? Has the thought of visiting Brazil popped up? The money we get from tourism does help us as well. Most likely not. We Brazilians already know what our problems are, all we need is some public organisation because we're afraid of taking action as well. These people who shot the movies can do it. As for exporting this reality... this is making money out of others' misery, and that brings worse consequences than that. Tourists would be afraid to come even to our safest cities.

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Originally posted by Eric Siefer Glad to see some intelligence in COR sometimes. Not sure where you live right now, but I can understand where you're coming from. While I thought it was an awesome movie, sometimes I(and everyone) forget that these things are still going on right now. It's a tragedy that the writer never went back to help them out, or started some sort of fund. But this world is pretty shitty in some places. If there were enough money, people, and resources to help out every shitty scenario I see on a film based on a true story then the world would be a better place for it. But there isn't. It sucks that it seems to some that they're glorifying the situation by making a film about it and in the process also money off it, but thats how the world works.

It does suck indeed, but I'd like to believe that, once they find their ankles bitten by this problem, they're going to do something more concrete.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On And I'm still not convinced that Lira is angry at the movie, itself, so much as he is fearful of what outsiders view his country as. I actually found it quite interesting to see such horror and violence and poverty presented in such a sarcastically light-hearted (if that does it any jsutice) manner - not because I think that "everything's supposed to be fun in Rio", but because it exposes this twisted human edge so well that, in their world of violence and extreme poverty, the blending of such violatile elements had become a sort of madness to be brought to reality with - that people had become compliant with this way of life, as people must do, and that embracing it drowns out the sadness sometimes and makes you forget how illogical it is.

It's a blending of both what you said and me being angry at the whole scenario, the film being included.

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Originally posted by Nou damn, I never seen Lira mad before... least that mad...

I had my cousins mugged in a bus in Rio. I had my girlfriend accidentally kidnapped by drug dealers (long story). Whenever I go to the poor places of the district I live in (which are strategically far away from the capital itself), I seem to be entering a completely different country, and I have to take all sort of security measures.

It's quite difficult not to be angered by that.

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Originally posted by DamienR8 P.S. Prolly the worst acting job in an Independent to Theatrical Release film was done in the movie SAW. Those actors sucked so much i left the theatre, grabbed some nachos, and played tekken 4 in the arcade.

LOL I that movie could have been so much better had the people known how to act.

Ohh and for those who can't find City of God, I think the Actual title is "Ciudad de Deus"

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Originally posted by Nou damn, I never seen Lira mad before... least that mad...

i want to see the movie just to see why lira's so mad.

Without knowing anything about it, I have to add a dissenting opinion about the "profiteering" take. All movies are designed to make money, why not get mad at Spielberg for making money off the holocaust for doing Schindler's List?

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