A serious question re: Sander Kleinenberg & Junkie XL

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Posted by DarkAngel on Apr-01-2005 14:01:

A serious question re: Sander Kleinenberg & Junkie XL

Right. Amongst the chaos with the title change to this forum, I've decided to bring things back on track with a serious topic.

I liked Junkie XL's performance at ULTRA, but someone commented to me that it's actually considered Progressive House.

My question to the Sander whores is: does that mean they play identical styles? I've never seen Sander and am looking for serious feedback for my knowledge.

*EDIT* No, this isn't an April Fool's thread or a reason to genre bash, I'm looking for info and feedback. There's enough April Fool's threads in COR.

*EDIT 2* SERIOUS RESPONSES ONLY, PLEASE. (That means YOU, Greg.)

Posted by DawnTreader on Apr-01-2005 14:04:

nOObLaR !!!

Posted by ctprincess on Apr-01-2005 14:05:

sander is considered to be "progressive house" - but i think that label spans a lot of different styles. sander definitely spins house, tech-house, tech and then some tracks that have trance elements - and at wmc he was spinning some really funky tunes - he has developed a "funky - chunky" style - check out everybody too cd - it will show you his style and diversity of his sets.

Posted by DarkAngel on Apr-01-2005 14:07:

quote:
Originally posted by DawnTreader
nOObLaR !!!

Heh.

Posted by DarkAngel on Apr-01-2005 14:08:

quote:
Originally posted by ctprincess
sander is considered to be "progressive house" - but i think that label spans a lot of different styles. sander definitely spins house, tech-house, tech and then some tracks that have trance elements - and at wmc he was spinning some really funky tunes - he has developed a "funky - chunky" style - check out everybody too cd - it will show you his style and diversity of his sets.

I've also heard he plays remixed 80's tunes...that's actually considered house?

Posted by TranCyn on Apr-01-2005 14:13:

heres some news for you da.... and i think weve been trying to clue you into this for a while... the genres of edm are not SET... the boundaries are very fuzzy so even if joe schmo labels something progressive house is may not be progressive house to someone else... my best advice would be to never say that you HATE something until you give it a chance....
so if your curious about a certain djs sound, check out one of his sets rather than trying to find out which label his style has been pinned as.

Posted by DarkAngel on Apr-01-2005 14:16:

quote:
Originally posted by TranCyn
heres some news for you da.... and i think weve been trying to clue you into this for a while... the genres of edm are not SET... the boundaries are very fuzzy so even if joe schmo labels something progressive house is may not be progressive house to someone else... my best advice would be to never say that you HATE something until you give it a chance....
so if your curious about a certain djs sound, check out one of his sets rather than trying to find out which label his style has been pinned as.

What can I say? I'm stubborn. I won't deny that.

I might give a download a try.

Posted by DawnTreader on Apr-01-2005 14:27:

Posted by mdamon7278 on Apr-01-2005 14:29:

sander rocks, even thought I couldnt tear myself away to see him at space last fri but Im sure I can see him in june, aug, oct and dec at sardine central, GOOD SHIT

My brightside, oMFG

Posted by Pete K on Apr-01-2005 14:44:

Junkie does edm with a rock feel. He spans anywhere from prog house to electro to hip hop. Sander on the other hand is progressive period. The term progressive ranges anywhere from house, trance, techno, electro etc etc etc...if you've noticed Sanders set's are really rock and electro influenced.

ps trance was so 2000

jk

Posted by DJ Logix on Apr-01-2005 14:46:

Same Genre yes. Different styles definately. Junkie is the shit. Sander K is the shit aswell. I've noticed his style has changed a bit as ctprincess said, into a more funkier juicier (and I forgot the lyrics too the song now, anyways) style.

OMG Sander at Ultra who heard that DnB track that (once again I forgot the name to it even though I love the song) he played at 33, slowed the fuck down, and omg it was like omg I cant even describe u had to have been there for that. It was definately worth missing him on the 19th up here in the A.

Posted by DarkAngel on Apr-01-2005 14:49:

Great responses...

I'm anxiously awaiting Nachos, RzO and Kelly's input.

Keep 'em comin'.

Posted by DJ Logix on Apr-01-2005 14:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Pete K

ps trance was so 2000

jk

HA!!! While this is completely not the case, it does have its elements of truth.

Posted by Pete K on Apr-01-2005 15:11:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Logix
Same Genre yes. Different styles definately. Junkie is the shit. Sander K is the shit aswell. I've noticed his style has changed a bit as ctprincess said, into a more funkier juicier (and I forgot the lyrics too the song now, anyways) style.

OMG Sander at Ultra who heard that DnB track that (once again I forgot the name to it even though I love the song) he played at 33, slowed the fuck down, and omg it was like omg I cant even describe u had to have been there for that. It was definately worth missing him on the 19th up here in the A.

the dnb track is called

subfocus- xray

I've been dieing to find out who remixed it or if it's a Sander bootleg.

Posted by kelly923 on Apr-01-2005 15:16:

I personally consider Sander to be in a genre of his own... He's a musical genious imo

Dark, don't encourage RzO! He'll go on and on for days! LoL

Posted by ctprincess on Apr-01-2005 15:24:

quote:
Originally posted by DarkAngel
I've also heard he plays remixed 80's tunes...that's actually considered house?

yes - he does spin some 80s remixes that have house influences/elements in them.

Posted by mdamon7278 on Apr-01-2005 15:25:

CT princess is a fruitcake, dont listen to a word that clown says

Posted by DarkAngel on Apr-01-2005 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by kelly923
I personally consider Sander to be in a genre of his own... He's a musical genious imo

Dark, don't encourage RzO! He'll go on and on for days! LoL

LOL I wanna hear from him!

I posted here instead of Music Discussion because I'd rather hear opinions from people that I know then from a bunch of elitist pricks that lurk in MD. Every thread in there winds up turning into a flame war and I know this place a lot more civil than that.

*EDIT* Woooops.

Posted by DJ Logix on Apr-01-2005 15:56:

Subfocus Xray

quote:
Originally posted by Pete K
the dnb track is called

subfocus- xray

I've been dieing to find out who remixed it or if it's a Sander bootleg.

Its the flipside on the 12in I think its a Fresh from BC remix, its still dnb, he just slowed it down that was it.

Posted by DarkAngel on Apr-01-2005 15:57:

Question

Who plays that "Brightside" song, Sander or Junkie or both?

Posted by DawnTreader on Apr-01-2005 15:58:

Re: Question

quote:
Originally posted by DarkAngel
Who plays that "Brightside" song, Sander or Junkie or both?

everyone... but you missed 90% of the WMC

... song makes me tearyeyed.

Posted by Pete K on Apr-01-2005 16:00:

Re: Question

quote:
Originally posted by DarkAngel
Who plays that "Brightside" song, Sander or Junkie or both?

Sander, Pete Tong and Sasha.

Fucking tune of WMC.

Posted by miamitrance04 on Apr-01-2005 16:01:

sander played brightside at ultra, i liked his set better than Junkie XL's but they both have awesome talent and are great dj's. i used to hate on house but i must admit Sander makes you wanna move he was amazing at Ultra!

Posted by signde on Apr-01-2005 16:04:

Re: Subfocus Xray

xray was one of the hottest dnb tunes of the conference, i must have heard it 10 times. 5 times at the breakbeat kaos party and 5 times at ultra.

i'm still flipping the fuck out that sander played it.

sander > *

i'm still not convinced it was the dnb tune just played on 33 though... it sounded a little different than just being slowed down to me, but i wasn't aware of any Fresh remixes of it so i guess that is possible.

Posted by bobba lou on Apr-01-2005 16:16:

just fucking listen to every tune out there, if you dont like delete it. Stop dicking around with labels and music types. At the end of the day it is all music.

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