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Posted by kixalot on Apr-05-2005 03:58:

BEATMATCHING: One cup or two?

I've been djing for about a year now and recently I heard that you're only supposed to beatmatch with only one cup over your ear. Is this true, and if so why? What advantages are there over using both cups?


Posted by Mike Vicious on Apr-05-2005 04:08:

i just recently discovered how much better it is with both cups on with both tracks playing, i find that i can pin point when the beats are matched exactly, i dont think i should get used to that style though


Posted by veezee on Apr-05-2005 04:17:

There are so many threads on this.. ugh!

but as my contribution, I like one cup, and two for fine tuning if needed.

Jay


Posted by DannyO on Apr-05-2005 04:19:

Well really, its personal preference, theres no set way to do it, you just find a way you like and keep doing it, but that being said, there are certain situations you might find yourself in (if you play out) that you will be in trouble either cos of a bad monitor/setup, or that the mixer doesn't support your way of monitoring in the headphones, the "old skool" way is, one cup playing only the cued up track, and your other ear listening to the club monitors, but now that we have many good mixers available, you will often find a mixer that supports all the ways headphone monitoring, but if you wanna be safe, learn to DJing with one headphone on, mix in headphones (stereo signals mixed), and split cued in the headphones, and then you'll be ready for anything.


Posted by Zack Roth on Apr-05-2005 04:19:

I've been DJing for about 2 years now...a little more actually...and for a year and a half I beatmatched solely in the headphones and I thought that was the best way to do it. But I was in for a rude awakening the first tiem I played out and got stuck with the Rane Rotary which only allows you to cue one channel. From that night on I try to only beatmatch with one ear, and when I'm playing out, that way is actually easier because of the drastically increased volume. The only reason I beatmatch in the headphones is if for some reason I have to keep the volume down when I'm home.


Posted by Timski on Apr-05-2005 04:20:

Its whatever works for you IMO people say that you should learn and adapt to different mixers that they have in clubs so you dont fuck up endlessly.

In my case being the headline act of my own lounge room it does not really matter


Posted by OMNIFEX on Apr-05-2005 04:24:

One Cup for me.

My current mixer gives you the option of Split Channels.

However, my previous mixer (The one learned on) didn't,
so, one cup was the only way.


Posted by DannyO on Apr-05-2005 04:26:

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
The only reason I beatmatch in the headphones is if for some reason I have to keep the volume down when I'm home.


I do that aswell, or if the main speakers/monitors sound rather crap and is hard to pin point the highs for beatmatching, but if its all good, I do it one ear-one track.


Posted by Frisco on Apr-05-2005 04:58:

I find that when I'm playing one ear in the cup I don't get it exactly right. When I'm split cue I can hear the minute differences better and can hear when its just a little bit off. Of course I only spin at Club 1207 (fancy way of saying my house) and haven't been forced to do it any other way.


Posted by kixalot on Apr-05-2005 06:30:

thanks for the helpful replies guys.

Excluding the person above me, of course.


Posted by Basstard on Apr-05-2005 13:32:

in the house i spin with one ear in on the speakers and one in the phones. in my headphone ear i can hear both channels playing with the cued track the dominant (i have a DJM-600 so can adjust). i was forced to mix totally in the phones my first gig because the monitors were terrible in the booth and i turned em off. since the club speaker's sound was bouncing all over the walls it totally throws u off as it sounds like ur trainwreckin when actually ur mixin alrite. the only problem i have with mixin totally in the headfones is u dont know how loud it is coming in over the speakers.


Posted by Freak on Apr-05-2005 13:45:

Three


Posted by chesco on Apr-05-2005 14:11:

i've taught myself using 2 cups at once, but lately i've been using a mixture of cup and two.

It's always a good idea to know how to do it both ways.


Posted by Tomas_P on Apr-05-2005 16:08:

I prefer both cups ,and as many have said it's a personal preferance.


Posted by Michael May on Apr-05-2005 19:12:

Re: BEATMATCHING: One cup or two?

quote:
Originally posted by kixalot
I've been djing for about a year now and recently I heard that you're only supposed to beatmatch with only one cup over your ear. Is this true, and if so why? What advantages are there over using both cups?


It really just depends on what works for you and the environment your playing in, and of course if the mixer your mixing on at the time allows 2 ear monitoring. If you do use the 2 ear monitoring, remember to come out from the headphones once in a while during the mix to check to see if it sounds good.


Posted by Zild on Apr-05-2005 19:21:

I used to mix in both cups but then I learned how to do it one cup and I haven't gone back. I can get the beats matched quicker and I can tell which way I need to ride the pitch because the signals are in separate ears and I know which channel corresponds to which ear. It was kind of a guessing game when I used to the two ear method.


Posted by DJ STEEVROCK on Apr-05-2005 20:31:

Its one and one only. Stop being N00bs. You cant spin music only listening whats in your heads phones. Shit sounds differently in a room, club, hall, etc..... You have to make sure everything sounds correct. People only use two because the booth or club is too loud and listening for cues and because their probably trying to save the hearing throughout the night....thats exaactly the oppsite whats going to happen if you continue to mix in your head phones.

Your Boy
SteevRock


Posted by xx_lucy_xx on Apr-05-2005 22:05:

i started with two cups and my mixer dosent support split cue, but ive progressed to one cup, i feel the music more naturally that way rather than loads of concerntration, but then to two cups just to check everythings ok.


Posted by j@y on Apr-06-2005 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ STEEVROCK
Its one and one only. Stop being N00bs. You cant spin music only listening whats in your heads phones. Shit sounds differently in a room, club, hall, etc..... You have to make sure everything sounds correct. People only use two because the booth or club is too loud and listening for cues and because their probably trying to save the hearing throughout the night....thats exaactly the oppsite whats going to happen if you continue to mix in your head phones.

Your Boy
SteevRock


i guess sasha is a noob then???

stupid geeks

both way are good

one ear cup is easyer to know witch tune you have to ajust


Posted by j@y on Apr-06-2005 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ STEEVROCK
Its one and one only. Stop being N00bs. You cant spin music only listening whats in your heads phones. Shit sounds differently in a room, club, hall, etc..... You have to make sure everything sounds correct. People only use two because the booth or club is too loud and listening for cues and because their probably trying to save the hearing throughout the night....thats exaactly the oppsite whats going to happen if you continue to mix in your head phones.

Your Boy
SteevRock


i guess sasha is a noob then???

stupid geeks

both way are good

one ear cup is easyer to know witch tune you have to ajust


Posted by 3xx3r7 on Apr-06-2005 01:13:

For those who say that you get better precision in two cups are full of shit, IMO. With one cup, you can spot differences in tracks before you hear them in two cups, since you hear both songs separately.


Posted by Frisco on Apr-06-2005 02:55:

quote:
Originally posted by 3xx3r7
For those who say that you get better precision in two cups are full of shit, IMO. With one cup, you can spot differences in tracks before you hear them in two cups, since you hear both songs separately.


You can if you have split cue. I'm not sure if you are referring to that as using two or not, some people tend to forget about it if they're mixer doesn't support it.


Posted by Zild on Apr-06-2005 12:04:

one cup lets know know exactly how fast each track is playing seperately


Posted by Freak on Apr-06-2005 12:30:


Posted by Eric Siefer on Apr-06-2005 17:07:

One cup normally, two if I'm having trouble.


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