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Budget Mixer: Gemini PS-626i Vs. Behringer VMX-300
well, the title says all...
PLZ Dont tell me to use the Search function 'cause i already tried that and i'm still having a difficult to decide...
Few words-
As u can see, these two are pretty much the same, both have:
-3 channels with 3 line 3 phono and 1 mic inputs.
-3 main outputs (main/booth/record).
-3 band equalizer with the same cut range (-32dB).
the only differences are:
-The VMX-300 has a headphone split function (not sure that the Gemini doesn't have it too).
-The Gemini has a balanced master output.
-The VMX-300 has a vU' leds for every channel including for the master (while the gemini has only two VU' meters representing CH 2&3/Master).
-VMX-300 has Send/Return function for an outer effector (not important for me i won't use it anyway).
-VMX-300 has 3 band killers (-52dB) for channels 2 & 3 (not important for me)
there are a few more differences which i haven't mentioned 'cause they are minor...
now it's up to guys to help me decide which one to buy...i would like your answers will refer to reliability, durability and quality.
Plus, if you're based with you're own experience it's even better...
plz help me out with this guys
thanking you in advance
I think the gemini mixer's quality is a little bit better. I've used it just once for a few minutes, so I can't say much about it. It has a nice design, decent sound (for home use or a small party) and seems to last. The one thing that may bother you is the size of knobs, damn small compared to other mixers.
PS: I don't think ps626i is in production anymore.
i used the vmx 300 for about 3 weeks, threw it out and bought a dnx-1500 
its and ok mixer, nothing special, sound quality isnt anything to rave about but it'll do the job for a while then ull get fed up with it and chuck it out the window
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| Originally posted by Laz-oh i used the vmx 300 for about 3 weeks, threw it out and bought a dnx-1500 its and ok mixer, nothing special, sound quality isnt anything to rave about but it'll do the job for a while then ull get fed up with it and chuck it out the window |
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| Originally posted by SMoKeR hehe, I don't see a reason that gonna make me to get fed up with it... i just need a good decent mixer with normal sound quality for small parties... if u want i can give you the exact specifications of each one... |
I won't lie to you, but the behringer's layout looks much more comfy than the gemini's, but for me sound quality is paramount and everything else is secondary...
I have no real complaints with my VMX300. It gets the job done. Quality is good, it's by no means rivalins Allen & Heath, but it's pretty good. That applies to build quality and sound quality. The beat counters on it are an absolute joke though, about half the time they're not even close. Just tape a piece of paper over it and you're good to go. The EQ knobs cut down to 32db, which is more than most mixers, and with the way I like to mix, that's a big plus. Basically, for the money, it's a superb value. It's no Xone:92, but it's wonderful for a bedroom dj.
Bass EQ in the vmx-300 is shit. It cuts all the sound in the last degrees of the knob. Don�t look at the db�s it�s able to cut, i tried vestax with -20db and it cuts in a better way, perhaps the curve of the filter has more step, the bode i mean. When you cut the bass with the vmx-300 lot of tune goes away.
Another fail, perhaps this only happens to me but, when i�m not monitoring any channels i�m able to hear them, very low in one cup, and more loud in the other (split is not active).
And one of the channels suddenly broke down.
I think it�s a good mixer for it�s price, perhaps I had bad luck, but I won�t buy it again.
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| Originally posted by groovable Bass EQ in the vmx-300 is shit. It cuts all the sound in the last degrees of the knob. Don�t look at the db�s it�s able to cut, i tried vestax with -20db and it cuts in a better way, perhaps the curve of the filter has more step, the bode i mean. When you cut the bass with the vmx-300 lot of tune goes away. Another fail, perhaps this only happens to me but, when i�m not monitoring any channels i�m able to hear them, very low in one cup, and more loud in the other (split is not active). And one of the channels suddenly broke down. I think it�s a good mixer for it�s price, perhaps I had bad luck, but I won�t buy it again. |
First of all, sorry if I don�t explain well, I�m spanish and don�t know too much english. About the EQ, I meant that the bass cuts most of the sound at the end of the knob, i.e: you start at 12 o�clock, then you move the knob to the left, and bass attenuation is almost unaudible till you reach 9 o�clock or more, and at the last degrees of the knob it cuts, don�t know exactly the numbers of course, but it seems to cut from -15 to -32db in the last 15� degrees of the knob. Btw, I think -32db is too much for me, actually, when EQing I never bring the incoming track with the bass eq all the way down, because the tune sounds very strange. Thats the first problem I found in this mixer, and the other one, also about bass eq, is that it also cuts frequencies it�s not supposed to attenuate, in the middle range. About the broken channel, it worked ok, i had the pc soundboard attached to it, but one day it just stopped sounding 
I use technics rpdj-1210 hp�s. I know my problem is not very common, but the issues with the bass eq is the same in all vmx-300 mixers, and even in djx-700 and vmx-200. Anyway, it�s just a matter of practice using the eq in this mixer, I move it faster first, and very slowly at the end.
The EQ knobs are on a curve. IE, the first 4 or so marks = about 12db, the last few marks = about 20db.
About the broken channel thing, I've had no problems whatsoever with any of my faders or channels or really anything with my mixer. Groove, is there like no sound at all coming out of the channel? Do you have it set on line/phono when it should be the other? Do you need to hit the little gain button on the back of mixer?
Anyhow, the VMX300 is great for the price. I've been very impressed with it.
well, at such a price I'm not expecting a mixer with A&H sound quality, I just want a nice good mixer that will do the job for small parties,
and for this i think the VMX-300 will do enough untill I'll get my hands on a DN-X1500 or something better (I hope).
BTW I think the VMX-300 is the best mixer product came out of Behringer so I'm sure I won't be disappointed...
As for the bass knob, I'm certain it has something to do with the curve...
I'm still not sure which mixer of the two should i take but I'm almost sure it will workout when I'll go to the store and get play a little with the both mentioned...
Post a review after you buy.
Yes Audigy, it�s supposed to work that way, but I think that attenuation is veeery low till you reach the second zone. I prefer a linear knob.
About the broken channel, it has no solution i think, because it worked ok and suddenly, without touching anything, it stopped sounding.
About that bass knob thing....if you change basses suddenly betwen tracks, u'll have no problem with it, but if you fade basses from one track to another u'll have to get used to it's curve. I don't think the curve it's a problem, it's something that you get used to. But if the bass knob cuts some of the mid range frequency, or doesen't cut enough, I mean at least 20db, then you have a problem.
And what about the curve on the mid and high knobs? Is it the same?
I'm preaty interested in this thread cuz I think I'm gonna buy a VMX200 this summer, witch is preaty much the same to VMX300 (except kill switches and that extra chanel).
Mids and highs are more linear, however the drawing in the knob is the same as the one painted by audigy. In my opinion filters have not enough step, EQing in vmx-300 is a bit bad, my best advice is go to a local shop, play a tune, turn totally down the bass and hear it yourself, then compare with another mixer in the same price range, since I�ve not compared this mixer with any other similar in price.
If the VMX300 is anything like the DX626, I would NOT buy it. The faders on my 626 are already starting to get that crackling sound and I've not even had it for two months!
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| Originally posted by groovable Mids and highs are more linear, however the drawing in the knob is the same as the one painted by audigy. In my opinion filters have not enough step, EQing in vmx-300 is a bit bad, my best advice is go to a local shop, play a tune, turn totally down the bass and hear it yourself, then compare with another mixer in the same price range, since I�ve not compared this mixer with any other similar in price. |
I have the gemini, i have no complaints, its not amazing but then again its not shit, it does the job which is all that matters, and my mixer is the last on my upgrade list.
And yeah you can still buy them just type it into google or ask and you will find them for sale
I'm very happy with my PS-626i. I have had it for over a year and it is as good as new.
If you want sound quality, get an A&H, you get what you pay from budget mixers. Just save up some extra cash and get a Vestax PCV.
Don't know about he VMX300 but the DJX700 is a total crap they say and I have the DX626, did it well, always was satisfied, but now after 9/10 months the fader on channel two has that crackling noice and if I'm not gentle I'll only get sound out of my left box! Then when I touch the fader again the sound will come out of both boxes but it makes that shitty noice
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| Originally posted by Laz-oh i used the vmx 300 for about 3 weeks, threw it out and bought a dnx-1500 |
best mixer around IMO (for what I do at least)
people SERIOUSLY think that they're getting a djm600 with a different badge on it, but the �450 you save translates to at least half a decade off the shelf life and sound quality akin to rubbing a record with a sewing needle pierced through a yoghurt pot
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