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Trance is becoming much the same isn't it?

I'll say we cuz I'm talking about all of the producers (including me).

The drum pattrens are ussually the same.
About the basses must stick to the off-beat basses or some other known pattrens,
We use the same waveforms for leads (saws, sines, squares),
The melodies are getting less powerful but we still got the atmosphere, the feeling.
One of the main problems are that we are limited to those waveforms (for now).
All of the vocals are about love and stuff and of course I know that trance is about it. But it's about other things too don't you think?
We're becoming like limited like rock/pop/rap aka mainstream (drums, guitar, guitar, bass guitar, vocalist and maybe piano)
Do you think it's time for an originality brust?

[Please DON'T GIVE spesific examples, I don't wanna start a flamewar here]

It will change, it just has to evolve

yes, it's part of a genre and the genre is defined by certain characteristics.

it's like saying all rnb sounds the same. of course it does, for the most part.

if it wasn't much of the same it'd be something else

the sound itself can/will envolve, but only so much before it's no longer recognisably trance.

it will be trance.
we got 303s, saws, sines, squares, noises and the rest are varaiations of those.

imagine getting a completly new sound.
i mean we can't relay on supersaws cuz eventually it will become cheezy as hell. im not sure it isn'y cheeze right now.

The first thing trance producers have to do to make stuff not sound so similar to one another is to stop using the friggin' Ferry Corsten Trance Presets in all their software. After that, hell, there's no telling where trance will head next!

And to all the new cats that say it wouldn't be trance if you used different sounds...

is becoming?

those things tend to be what defines trance, anything different becomes a new genre/subgenre

and I say this LOOSELY, so no one start banging on about how today's trance isn't like the real hypnotic trance from baaaack in the day, etc

it has become long time ago...

Originality is key for success,but it's not easy to be original these days and presets are main problem.Making your own sounds lead to originality.

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Originally posted by kr00t0n those things tend to be what defines trance, anything different becomes a new genre/subgenre

No doubt. Whenever I look for new, innovative trance, I end up finding it in the reggae dub sections.

All music is sounding the same. Music has been around forever and now it's easier to make so more people are getting into it. With everyone making music it's bound to sound like almost everything else because so much has been done with music before already.

trance offers more variety now than ever....... thanks to the emergence of progressive trance.

If u want variety....Try Dave Seamen, Sasha, PVD at 1 go. Ul find out how different the music is.

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Originally posted by The Drow I'll say we cuz I'm talking about all of the producers (including me).

Stop fucking whinging Mr. Producer and get on with making a new fucking sound.

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Originally posted by JakeC Stop fucking whinging Mr. Producer and get on with making a new fucking sound.

+1

if i make uplifiting under another day alias then im using saws and stuff.
I never EVER use supersaw leads.
Check The Darkone - Ravenlock by me.
I think it sounds really original.

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Originally posted by The Drow if i make uplifiting under another day alias then im using saws and stuff. I never EVER use supersaw leads. Check The Darkone - Ravenlock by me. I think it sounds really original.

Go you.

But if you think trance all sounds the same you obviously aren't listening to enough of it or just aren't very creatively inclined.

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Originally posted by JakeC Stop fucking whinging Mr. Producer and get on with making a new fucking sound.

He's not whinin', he simply stated the way things are.
I read the same arguments regarding ASOT every day.
But trance is more than one sound, there's the real hypnotic trance from baaaack in the day, as kr00ton said, the prog. trance of today, the dutch epic trance, and most ASOT tunes you hear today, and many other trances, it seems as if every DJ makes their own version...

Anyway what I want to say is, there's a lot of trance out there for all of us, so if one DJ ie. Armin, doesn't play what you like, there's no need to criticise them but try some other DJ, because I don't think the things are THAT same as original poster suggested after all.

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Originally posted by The Drow We use the same waveforms for leads (saws, sines, squares),

Erm, they use exactly the same wave forms for leads in every other electronic music genre. The waveform has nothing to do with originality, its what you do with it that counts.

all rock music sounds the same... I mean, everyone uses guitars!!!?!

wtf?!?!?!








what I mean is, trance is a genre, therefore all trance shares similar characteristics... otherwise it wouldn't be trance.

Trance is dying...simple as that.

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Originally posted by Fresh Prince He's not whinin', he simply stated the way things are. I read the same arguments regarding ASOT every day. But trance is more than one sound, there's the real hypnotic trance from baaaack in the day, as kr00ton said, the prog. trance of today, the dutch epic trance, and most ASOT tunes you hear today, and many other trances, it seems as if every DJ makes their own version... Anyway what I want to say is, there's a lot of trance out there for all of us, so if one DJ ie. Armin, doesn't play what you like, there's no need to criticise them but try some other DJ, because I don't think the things are THAT same as original poster suggested after all.

I do like armin and tiesto
I don't like ferry anymore.
His tracks became so popish...

"Erm, they use exactly the same wave forms for leads in every other electronic music genre. The waveform has nothing to do with originality, its what you do with it that counts."
With new waveforms there will be new possiblities.
Right now we are locked on supersaws.
Uplifiting trance can be uplifiting without supresaws.

I think Trance is constantly evolving.

Period.

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Originally posted by ZeroVII I think Trance is constantly evolving. Period.

Or devolving.

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Originally posted by TruffleShuffle Or devolving.

or you're just pessimistic.


The liveliness of a genre of music is half the music, half the crowd.

Come party in Toronto... you'll find trance quite alive and well

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Originally posted by Matt The liveliness of a genre of music is half the music, half the crowd. Come party in Toronto... you'll find trance quite alive and well

I doubt 1/2 of these guys have been out on a party

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